Volga Church Good Karma

[GoobleMoWizard]

I didn't know if you stealthed the Church without killing any Fanatics, and you escape on the boat, you will get good Karma. I also thought it was funny if you got by like I said, Anna says you're a actual Ninja, lol!

[Shiki Yui]

I might be remembering wrong but I stealth killed everyone in the church and got the moral point as well. I think it's just getting through the whole church undetected is what gets you a point.

[GoobleMoWizard]

Originally posted by ShikiYui:

I might be remembering wrong but I stealth killed everyone in the church and got the moral point as well. I think it's just getting through the whole church undetected is what gets you a point.

Ah. Well, apparently people have said killing Fanatics, Civilians, Surrendering enemies, Fake pirates, etc will result in the bad ending. Bandits, Mutants etc are okay.

[Shiki Yui]

Originally posted by GoobleMoWizard:

Originally posted by ShikiYui:

I might be remembering wrong but I stealth killed everyone in the church and got the moral point as well. I think it's just getting through the whole church undetected is what gets you a point.

Ah. Well, apparently people have said killing Fanatics, Civilians, Surrendering enemies, Fake pirates, etc will result in the bad ending. Bandits, Mutants etc are okay.

Well I only killed fanatics in the church only and still got the good ending for Volga as long as I don't kill anyone other than bandits and stealth my way through. In every other playthrough where I don't kill anyone in the church, a conversation near the end of Volga will always say that I killed everyone there so I was like meh might as well make it true then lol.

[GoobleMoWizard]

Originally posted by ShikiYui:

Originally posted by GoobleMoWizard:

Ah. Well, apparently people have said killing Fanatics, Civilians, Surrendering enemies, Fake pirates, etc will result in the bad ending. Bandits, Mutants etc are okay.

Well I only killed fanatics in the church only and still got the good ending for Volga as long as I don't kill anyone other than bandits and stealth my way through. In every other playthrough where I don't kill anyone in the church, a conversation near the end of Volga will always say that I killed everyone there so I was like meh might as well make it true then lol.

Interesting. I don't think that's supposed to happen. I'm not sure though.

[jdx]

You have some wiggle room. It's not like killing one slave dooms you to the bad ending.

[Jig McGalliger]

Anna will congratulate you at the end of the church for not killing anyone. Non-lethal takedowns are ok. You can takedown anyone and if you get out without lethality you will get good karma confirmed by Anna on the way out.

If you murdered people and Anna still congratulated you, then you hit a bug, all the karma data is stored in the config file.

[cuss]

Originally posted by ShikiYui:

.. a conversation near the end of Volga will always say that I killed everyone ..

That conversation can be heard on the Volga bridge by listening to some cultists talk but if you do things right then they don't mention you killing everyone. They say something like, 'we searched but the heretic had simply vanished'. (a testament to your stealth skills)

[thebaconson]

Originally posted by ShikiYui:

In every other playthrough where I don't kill anyone in the church, a conversation near the end of Volga will always say that I killed everyone there so I was like meh might as well make it true then lol.

Yeah I got the same, and in the desert afterwards I didn't kill a person at all, and what's his name still left.

[ChalkLine]

Originally posted by thebaconson:

Originally posted by ShikiYui:

In every other playthrough where I don't kill anyone in the church, a conversation near the end of Volga will always say that I killed everyone there so I was like meh might as well make it true then lol.

Yeah I got the same, and in the desert afterwards I didn't kill a person at all, and what's his name still left.

It's really easy in the first part of the final mission to kill a slave by accident. Just as you get through the pipe there's about five slaves from memory that are combat slaves and these guys are still off-limits.

[ChalkLine]

You can stealth KO nearly all the enemy in the Church but they instinctively realise there's only one or two left and then surrender. This lets you loot the entire area. However you don't get the Ninja speech from Anna.

[thebaconson]

Originally posted by ChalkLine1:

Originally posted by thebaconson:

Yeah I got the same, and in the desert afterwards I didn't kill a person at all, and what's his name still left.

It's really easy in the first part of the final mission to kill a slave by accident. Just as you get through the pipe there's about five slaves from memory that are combat slaves and these guys are still off-limits.

I was not aware of combat slaves, that could have been my problem.