Question about Alyosha in Taiga (spoilers)

[Justin_760]

Does anyone know who exactly you can and cant kill? I know to keep him alive your supposed to do a relatively peaceful run, but its not clear. Whats her name the sexy tribal lady says she doesnt blame you for killing her people when you see her for the second time, but asks you to restrain yourself in the future, and it makes it seem like its only from that point on that impacts the areas ending.

Does anyone have confirmation on the details? Which factions are safe to kill? Is it only kills after meeting that lady in the church that counts towards ending? Thanks.

[Derrame]

Olga asks you to not kill anyone
just don't kill humans in Taiga
knock them out

[didymos1120]

I think you can kill the bandits with impunity.

[Justin_760]

Originally posted by Derrame:

Olga asks you to not kill anyone
just don't kill humans in Taiga
knock them out

Yes but she says that once your towards the end of the level, at the church. Wouldnt that mean only after that point? And how do you even identify bandits? So forest children or pioneers are off limits, what about the "pirates"?

Gotta say, its kind of lame that the game punishes you so much for playing in any way besides super peaceful. Going camp to camp knocking everyone out is super boring and inevitably ends up taking a BUNCH of medkits/chems since youll get noticed sooner or later. And the melee knockout prompt doesnt show up sometimes so you have to stand in front of an enemy thats shooting at you and wait for it to appear, often resulting in getting hit numerous times.

Its like at that point in the game you finally get access to all the great weapons, the Helsing, decked out valve rifle, etc, but you get punished for using them. Oh well, still a good game.

[Nite69]

the bandit camps really aren't that hard to sneak past in taiga, even the ending camp has a boat on the far side of it you can sneak to it then unlock the gate and sneak through in the boat if ya time it right without being spotted

[Muggy]

Don't kill the Pirates or Pioneers.
When you get to the overrun at the Forest camp, save the hostages.
Bandits are fair game so kill if you want to.

[Purity+Control<]

Finished the game 5 times. Listen here if you want to know the truth:

You can kill ALL the BANDITS and THUGS without bad karma consequences throughout the whole game.

I massacred every single bandit in Volga, Caspian and Taiga bandit camp, always got the good ending without any trouble.

=== Everyone else you must spare or save ===

Its a very good decision coming from the devs since its still a first person shooter. It would be awful if we had to spare absolutely everyone.

Plus you won't feel bad at all for stabbing murderers and rapists!

[Vene]

Originally posted by Qu'onos Praxis:

You can kill ALL the BANDITS and THUGS without bad karma consequences throughout the whole game.

Not trying to be annoying but to correct you, it's bad if you kill the bandit in the taiga at the start with the wolf on them. Or saul on Caspian, he also is a bandit but you shouldn't kill him.

[Purity+Control<]

Originally posted by Vene:

Originally posted by Qu'onos Praxis:

You can kill ALL the BANDITS and THUGS without bad karma consequences throughout the whole game.

Not trying to be annoying but to correct you, it's bad if you kill the bandit in the taiga at the start with the wolf on them. Or saul on Caspian, he also is a bandit but you shouldn't kill him.

Yes you have to save the bandit thats about to be eaten by the wolf at the beginning of taiga.

Knocking out Saul too instead of killing him, even though I dont get it why it is so since it clearly doesn't change anything, maybe a remnant of unfinished content? who knows.

[DELTA]

dont kill the kids, you can identifie bandits by the fact they are in the village and are not wearing the same clothing as the kids alongside what they talk about if you listen to them in stealth

[johnttwo]

dont listen to the bandit tied to the tree at the start after you save him from the wolf he tells you to kill them all dont kill any or you get the bad ending

[H8M4Ch1N3]

Originally posted by Qu'onos Praxis:

Originally posted by Vene:

Not trying to be annoying but to correct you, it's bad if you kill the bandit in the taiga at the start with the wolf on them. Or saul on Caspian, he also is a bandit but you shouldn't kill him.

Yes you have to save the bandit thats about to be eaten by the wolf at the beginning of taiga.

Knocking out Saul too instead of killing him, even though I dont get it why it is so since it clearly doesn't change anything, maybe a remnant of unfinished content? who knows.

I know it's from a year ago but maybe you'll feel the need to replay the game - there is a side mission with Saul if you go to bed and sleep through the night (of course, if you don't kill him). I missed it too.

[captainpatch]

Originally posted by 𝐕𝐞𝐧𝐞:

Or saul on Caspian, he also is a bandit but you shouldn't kill him.

??? The ONLY way I ever connected with Saul was when he jumped me on the top floor of the ruin. From that point it seems the ONLY choice is "kill or be killed".

[Psycho Pie]

I had an experience when I had to sneak past a pirate base (the "aggressive" kids faction) in the swamp.

I had a silenced ashot and would always knock out pirates who are in my way. But once, I was sailing to the gate leading out of their camp, I got spotted and had to shoot them in the legs then knock them out while they were dazed in pain. I only had two accidental kills (one shot in the chest and one shot in the groin) but it still prevented Alyosha from being injured and get my happy ending.

so, yeah, if you accidentally kill aggressive kids (at least, 2) you are a-ok.

[Oda!]

I can confirm that I killed about 80% of the "kids" in the pioneer town, and still got "Alyosha" (good ending for him). I even killed 1 or two surrendering because I was aiming for the bad ending at that time. I did rescue a couple in that level (in the bandit camp I remember).

On the other hand I didn't get "Damir" in the Caspian level while the only "bad" things I did there was that I was unaware of the imprisoned slaves in the oasis (so I couldn't rescue them) and that I knocked out 4 slaves out for my blood at the airfield hangar...

So I suspect that gaining or losing moral points in those levels is paramount in determining what ending you'll get..
...And I never lost any moral point over killing slaves/cilds of the forest shooting at me, only for killing people that surrendered.

[juan21103]

Can anyone confirm if you get good karma and alyoshka not being wounded if you activate the trap and the bear kill the pioneer and the pirate