cleaning weapons

[Vash(88)]

is there a better way to do this? I feel like I am playing a weapon polishing sim. Every 5 minutes I am spending half of the chems I found on cleaning my guns. I am avoiding using when I can, avoiding falling in mud and water. Is there a place to have them cleaned that I missed or something?

[Terminator01]

Only workbenches are able to clean up weapons.

[Vash(88)]

Originally posted by Terminator01:

Only workbenches are able to clean up weapons.

i mean is there a place or person that will do it cheaper or free? It just feels like I spend a lot of time and resources on it

[Terminator01]

It´s anywhere the same amount of chemicals you need. The workbench is no trader, where you can hope for cheaper prices. Just use one weapon to explore the map and use the others only if you need them.

[patronusV]

Here's a tip for you: when you have to go through mud or water and you know you'll get your weapon dirty, just switch to your battery charger (press and hold F by default) until you've crossed the obstacle. That is, unless you have to shoot in the middle of the mud.

[Bullett00th]

For the last 12 years I've been begging for an FPS game that would emulate Far Cry 2's weapon degradation system.

I finally got one with Exodus (and the handheld map FINALLY), but it's extremely overdone here.
While jamming doesn't put you in a nearly as big of a disadvantage as FC2, the rate at which the weapon gets dirty is ridiculous.

There's also a severe resource imbalance on RHC where most of my liquids go to cleaning weapons, and the rest - on filters.

I can't afford to spend it on anything else, but I'm drowning in scrap.

Originally posted by patronusV:

Here's a tip for you: when you have to go through mud or water and you know you'll get your weapon dirty, just switch to your battery charger (press and hold F by default) until you've crossed the obstacle. That is, unless you have to shoot in the middle of the mud.

Good advice, thx. Pretty gimmicky though.

[Gary]

I have read that attaching the Red Laser makes them degrade faster, where as the Green one is Military Grade and doesn't cause faster degrading!

[patronusV]

Originally posted by Bullett00th:

For the last 12 years I've been begging for an FPS game that would emulate Far Cry 2's weapon degradation system.

I finally got one with Exodus (and the handheld map FINALLY), but it's extremely overdone here.
While jamming doesn't put you in a nearly as big of a disadvantage as FC2, the rate at which the weapon gets dirty is ridiculous.

There's also a severe resource imbalance on RHC where most of my liquids go to cleaning weapons, and the rest - on filters.

I can't afford to spend it on anything else, but I'm drowning in scrap.

Originally posted by patronusV:

Here's a tip for you: when you have to go through mud or water and you know you'll get your weapon dirty, just switch to your battery charger (press and hold F by default) until you've crossed the obstacle. That is, unless you have to shoot in the middle of the mud.

Good advice, thx. Pretty gimmicky though.

I cheesed the Ranger hardcore a little by doing it as a NG+ run with "my guns" option enabled after a normal playthrough, so I started the game with a railgun and I almost never had to craft ammo other than steel balls, which only need scrap. I didn't use it solely and ignore all other weapons, but it did save me ammo, especially useful in the fights against mutants. Even if you don't have the railgun yet, try to utilize the tikhar as much as you can for the same reason of cheap ammo.

But I also remember I almost never had to craft the filters or medkits either on RHC. On the levels where you need filters you often can find enough. As for the medkits, I saved those only for long major shooting sequences. After most injuries I just ran to the nearest bed to heal by drinking from a flask.

[Terminator01]

Originally posted by Bullett00th:

For the last 12 years I've been begging for an FPS game that would emulate Far Cry 2's weapon degradation system.

I finally got one with Exodus (and the handheld map FINALLY), but it's extremely overdone here.
While jamming doesn't put you in a nearly as big of a disadvantage as FC2, the rate at which the weapon gets dirty is ridiculous.

There's also a severe resource imbalance on RHC where most of my liquids go to cleaning weapons, and the rest - on filters.

I can't afford to spend it on anything else, but I'm drowning in scrap.

Originally posted by patronusV:

Here's a tip for you: when you have to go through mud or water and you know you'll get your weapon dirty, just switch to your battery charger (press and hold F by default) until you've crossed the obstacle. That is, unless you have to shoot in the middle of the mud.

Good advice, thx. Pretty gimmicky though.

Never had any problem with the ressources on Ranger Hardcore. And I exclusively only played on there I made 4 playthroughs with the Epic version, don´t judge me on my Steam achievements .
It´s pretty easy to safe on filters. Just run around without the gas mask, until you´re close of being dead. Then put them on and immediately off again and repeat. Saves tons of filters. And for Novosibirsk, just equip the armor upgrade for more filters and medkits. Then this is a cake walk.

[Bullett00th]

Originally posted by Terminator01:

Never had any problem with the ressources on Ranger Hardcore. And I exclusively only played on there I made 4 playthroughs with the Epic version, don´t judge me on my Steam achievements :brownchicken:.
It´s pretty easy to safe on filters. Just run around without the gas mask, until you´re close of being dead. Then put them on and immediately off again and repeat. Saves tons of filters. And for Novosibirsk, just equip the armor upgrade for more filters and medkits. Then this is a cake walk. :brownchicken:

I can't say I have a problem with resources.

I always have plenty of ammo and my secondary weapons are all stocked. Just saying that liquid goes almost exclusively to cleaning weapons

[Valrynn the Dragoness]

In Volga falling into the river ♥♥♥♥♥ up the weapons really fast.

In Caspian, especially early on, you want to use throwing knives to clear out that abandoned village as much as you can. The game eats up a ton of your stockpiled resources when going to a new area, and by clearing that place out with guns I ended up screwing myself over. Theres not THAT many resources in the village either, so using throwing knives is key if you wanna recoup your investment. I found that after that area and clearing the airbase I was ok on supplies for the rest of Caspian. You don't need to make boatloads of expensive fire ammo for the Tikhar as there's only two sections with spiders, and fire ammo does little to humans, only against Demons is it worth using aside from spiders.

Taiga isn't too bad, it's mostly short and linear, you can save resources by only going out in the day where the wolves are less likely to be on the prowl. You want to save as many resources as you can for shotgun ammo and sniper ammo, as well as molotovs because the damn Bear fights take so much of them. Don't bother with explosive bolts as they're pretty terrible and expensive to boot. You can save a lot of resources by stealthing, though this is arguably the most frustrating area to stealth. But you need to do it to save Alyosha anyways...

Aside from that, my advice is trade your weapons around. I think that if you trade your weapons in then come back later for them, Tokarev will have cleaned them partially if not fully for you, so switch up what you use

Hope that helps

[BTK-Dani*]

on rangerhardcore where its kinda expensive to clean i used to walk with only 1 gun. only this gun got dirty. when engaging combat switch to a clean one
best solution

[Bullett00th]

Originally posted by BTK-Dani*:

on rangerhardcore where its kinda expensive to clean i used to walk with only 1 gun. only this gun got dirty. when engaging combat switch to a clean one
best solution

it's a workaround yes, but it's a gimmicky one like the rest.
Not a good balance really

[Vash(88)]

I wish that they had just stuck to this game's strengths. The dark oppressive atmosphere of the underground metro was perfect. I am struggling to enjoy this entry at all. It feels like it's trying to do things that it was never built for which leads to stuff like walking around with your charger out so that the weapons attached to your back don't get dirty... Not only is that silly, but it doesn't even make sense. Or letting yourself almost suffocate then toggling your gas mask...really?

Let's not not pretend like that is "game play mechanics". Those are goofy and immersion breaking exploits that shouldn't have to be resorted to just to balance the resource management

Thanks for the answers though

[Valrynn the Dragoness]

Originally posted by Vash(88):

I wish that they had just stuck to this game's strengths. The dark oppressive atmosphere of the underground metro was perfect. I am struggling to enjoy this entry at all. It feels like it's trying to do things that it was never built for which leads to stuff like walking around with your charger out so that the weapons attached to your back don't get dirty... Not only is that silly, but it doesn't even make sense. Or letting yourself almost suffocate then toggling your gas mask...really?

Let's not not pretend like that is "game play mechanics". Those are goofy and immersion breaking exploits that shouldn't have to be resorted to just to balance the resource management

Thanks for the answers though

I mean I never bothered with gas mask switching in ANY of the games (its been here for all three now, I thought toggling was just silly) and I didnt bother with charger cheesing. Sometimes I was strained for chems but I usually did ok if I stopped being stupid and falling into the river in Volga and traded my weapons in Caspian.

[Chalax]

Might be off topic but, do people actually play this game multiple times in different difficulties??
What's the point? I am genuinly curious.