Uses for the bastard gun?

[Valrynn the Dragoness]

I can't make this thing work. It uses up pistol ammo quite quick and jams after just a few shots, even when I just cleaned the damn thing. It makes me wonder why the magazine options are so big when I can't make use of the full auto firing at all.

[alex010300]

Last two games it uses assault rifle rounds, it’s mainly to replace the pistol for this game. You can get a heat sink so that it doesn’t jam from heat.

[Alyx]

Honestly it’s a joke. The game starts you off with AK and not only is the rifle ammo cheaper to make but AK is just better in every way. There’s almost no reason to use the bastard or revolver imo. Not to mention that the Tikhar is best boi because it’s ammo efficient and cheap to feed. Weapon economy in this game is ♥♥♥♥♥♥.

30 x Material 10 x Chem = 30 5.45
12 x Material 6 x Chem = 6 .44mag ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ 6! SIX ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ rounds! Even in the revolver it just ain’t worth it mate!

[Valrynn the Dragoness]

Originally posted by alex010300:

Last two games it uses assault rifle rounds, it’s mainly to replace the pistol for this game. You can get a heat sink so that it doesn’t jam from heat.

I know that it's classed as a pistol now, so understandably it should be weaker (or stronger? it fires 44 mag as opposed to 5.45...) but I guess until I get that heat sink it's just gonna not be used for now.

[alex010300]

Originally posted by Break:

Originally posted by alex010300:

Last two games it uses assault rifle rounds, it’s mainly to replace the pistol for this game. You can get a heat sink so that it doesn’t jam from heat.

I know that it's classed as a pistol now, so understandably it should be weaker (or stronger? it fires 44 mag as opposed to 5.45...) but I guess until I get that heat sink it's just gonna not be used for now.

Nvm, there is no heat sink in ME. I mixed up with last light.

[Alyx]

oof that’s unfortunate! Honestly I’d love to use the bastard but I just can’t justify it when they start you with an AK. It’s be a complete downgrade. The bastard is a nice gun and it would have been better if you started with that vs the AK for gameplay.

[alex010300]

Some folks use the bastard instead of the AK in the last two games for the Challenge.

[Alyx]

That’s a good idea. I’ll make a meme machine and conquer the world!

[Valrynn the Dragoness]

Originally posted by alex010300:

Some folks use the bastard instead of the AK in the last two games for the Challenge.

The bastard gun was actually usable in the last two games though.

I did a lot of testing in the dev DLC a while ago and the bastard gun's stats arent actually that bad. It actually has very high first shot accuracy, better than the AK and Kalash 2012, IIRC (I'd have to test this again, been a while). It also shares it's fire rate with the Kalash 2012, faster than the RPK or AK. So it actually had some upsides to it.

[Alyx]

lmao

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Idk if Exodus has a heat sink for the bastard gun. It's mostly a burst fire weapon. IMO nothing dies in this game unless it gets headshot so I always used the revolver. I never used the bastard gun in Exodus because of ammo conservation, but I suppose if you need whatever to die infront of you immediately under any circumstances it can be good. I'll post back here after I use it for a bit

[alex010300]

Stallion got introduced in Sam’s DLC. The .45 is the best pistol in the game. It even has auto fire mode with a large magazine.