Serious Sam 3: BFE
Milansta Jul 19, 2020 @ 4:05am
serious sam 3 direct3d issue
here are my 2 logs:
https://pastebin.com/pWML8Wxp
sam3.all
https://pastebin.com/ZQYmv8mq
sam3
Also worth noting that i have dual amd gpu:
dedicated is 7670m radeon hd 2gb
integrated is 7660g 512 mb i think
Now whats the issue?If i try to run the game with my dedicated its where i get the direct3d error crash,you know not found,internal error.If i run it with my integrated it runs just fine.But i dont want to run on the weaker gpu.I want to run it on the better one.So what am i supposed to do? I am using the catalyst up to date,i also updated my drivers,but i dont get whats the issue....
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Cunin Jul 19, 2020 @ 11:08am 
I've read the other threads you have created about this issue and the only thing I can see is that the game (both this and Fusion) uses the 7660 instead of the 7670.
I never had a dual-graphics system to play with, but I did a bit of research and there should be an option to run the game with the 7670 either on the Catalyst control panel, or via right-click on the desktop (there should be an option called "Configure Switchable Graphics").
It can also be done through Power Saving options, you should set your system to run as High Performance.

Now I don't understand why it should crash on the 7660, but with laptops it's a common issue, since the graphics drivers are not updated so often by the manufacturer, and at a certain point they just stop providing updates. So maybe use a different version of the provided drivers, if the manufacturer gives you such option.
Milansta Jul 19, 2020 @ 12:45pm 
Originally posted by Cunin:
I've read the other threads you have created about this issue and the only thing I can see is that the game (both this and Fusion) uses the 7660 instead of the 7670.
I never had a dual-graphics system to play with, but I did a bit of research and there should be an option to run the game with the 7670 either on the Catalyst control panel, or via right-click on the desktop (there should be an option called "Configure Switchable Graphics").
It can also be done through Power Saving options, you should set your system to run as High Performance.

Now I don't understand why it should crash on the 7660, but with laptops it's a common issue, since the graphics drivers are not updated so often by the manufacturer, and at a certain point they just stop providing updates. So maybe use a different version of the provided drivers, if the manufacturer gives you such option.
no no here is the thing...7660g is the integrated one ...it runs fine when i choose to run like that.If i want to run it with 7670m which is the dedicated aka stronger one,thats when the problem occurs...worst part? This problem didnt used to be present before until i recently took the laptop to the servician where he reinstalled windows 10....so i guess he ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up the drivers somehow and i dont wonna bother it because it said both drivers are up to date and i kinda gave up...i will just try to get a laptop that doesnt have this ancient technology and thats it...i dont know what to do.
cheshirm Jul 19, 2020 @ 4:11pm 
when installing win 10, not every past library is included. perhaps you are missing a dx9 library.

perhaps try opengl . use this when launching the game (as steam launch options):

+gfx_strAPI OpenGL

or dx11

+gfx_strAPI D3D11

think you can also use dx12 if you switch to ss 3 fusion beta
Last edited by cheshirm; Jul 19, 2020 @ 4:16pm
Milansta Jul 19, 2020 @ 5:14pm 
Originally posted by cheshirm:
when installing win 10, not every past library is included. perhaps you are missing a dx9 library.

perhaps try opengl . use this when launching the game (as steam launch options):

+gfx_strAPI OpenGL

or dx11

+gfx_strAPI D3D11

think you can also use dx12 if you switch to ss 3 fusion beta
the opengl command seems to have fixed the problem.Thx.Any other tips? Looks like my dedicated gpu causes the problem,because with the integrated gpu i dont have these issues.
Milansta Jul 20, 2020 @ 12:27pm 
Originally posted by cheshirm:
maybe this:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-US/download/details.aspx?id=35

install as admin
its already installed :/ maybe firewall is causing all the problems?
cheshirm Jul 20, 2020 @ 12:35pm 
why not use opengl or dx11 since they work. you even have ss3 fusion which might have dx12.
use one of the 3 that work. why insist on using the dx9 that doesnt? all you other games work?
Last edited by cheshirm; Jul 20, 2020 @ 12:40pm
Milansta Jul 20, 2020 @ 12:49pm 
Originally posted by cheshirm:
why not use opengl or dx11 since they work. you even have ss3 fusion which might have dx12.
use one of the 3 that work. why insist on using the dx9 that doesnt? all you other games work?
i did use the direct11 option for bfe problem was still there.After using opengl it looks like it got fixed but im not quite sure im gonna test now.I had problem with pubg lite where i would get that direct3d error.Now what i did was disabled the firewall.It fixed it.However then i decided to uninstall all amd drivers and now i updated first the integrated graphic card and then the dedicated and pubg lite worked again.I will install fusion later night when i go to sleep and will see if the problem will again persist.Thx again for the help.I will keep zou updated
cheshirm Jul 20, 2020 @ 12:58pm 
might be something unique to the card. check vendor forums.
might be something unique to win 8 and the card. check ms and vendor forums.
Last edited by cheshirm; Jul 20, 2020 @ 1:05pm
Milansta Jul 20, 2020 @ 1:21pm 
Originally posted by cheshirm:
might be something unique to the card. check vendor forums.
might be something unique to win 8 and the card. check ms and vendor forums.
i use windows 10.Also,it looks fine? I think it even runs better when using the dx11 set up launch options command.Thank you.We will see tomorrow if fusion will also run as its supposed to be.Thanks again for the help!
cheshirm Jul 20, 2020 @ 1:26pm 
misread the log. saw win 8. in any event win 10 version 2004 update may have caused some problems. I had to reinstall another game and update my graphics card driver to get it to work.
Milansta Jul 20, 2020 @ 1:51pm 
You tell me. I had recently to take the laptop to a technician because windows didnt properly updated itself. It wouldnt even boot up lol. Least issues i had was with windows 7.
Cunin Jul 21, 2020 @ 8:35am 
Yeah the dx11 option is the best for your card, for both SS3 and Fusion.

Well, let's hope it's fixed now :)
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