Serious Sam 3 freezes on Win10 with no obvious reason!

[PandemoniumMaster]

It freezes on startup on gray screen and the only way to exit is manually shutting down or restarting the system.
I tried everything I read here - first I run it with dx11 api, didn't helped. Of course, I verified game cache more than once and there was nothing wrong. Finally, I completely removed NOD32 antivirus which I use, as I read in the FAQ that it may cause the problem. As you can imagine, it didn't helped at all, always the same - freezes at gray screen. :(((
I should also mention that other games I play or have played on this machine that use same or very similar game engine (Talos Principle, SSHD First Encounter, SSHD Second Encounter) work perfectly, and same case was for SS3 on my old computer with WinXP, but the crucial part is - then I had old 17-inch CRT monitor, and now I can't play it on my new 26-inch LCD aaaaaaaaaaaarrrrgh!!!!!

So plllllliiiizzz HEEEEELPP!

[PandemoniumMaster]

The following is the log file:

-------- START OF LOG --------

01:45:43 LOG: Core version: $Version: distro_Sam3_PC; SeriousSam3-Windows-Final; 261096 2016-04-26 02:52:57 @builder09; Win32-Static-Final-Default$
01:45:43 LOG: Command: $
01:45:43 LOG: Initializing timer.
01:45:43 LOG: QueryPerformanceFrequency: 3125002
01:45:43 LOG: Timestamp: 2018/04/15 01:45:38
01:45:43 LOG: Binary name: Sam3.exe
01:45:43 LOG: Binary soft path: Bin/
01:45:43 LOG: Binary hard path: E:\IGRE\Steam\steamapps\common\Serious Sam 3\Bin\
01:45:43 LOG: Application directory: E:\IGRE\Steam\steamapps\common\Serious Sam 3\
01:45:43 LOG: * OS...
01:45:43 LOG: Name: Windows 8
01:45:43 LOG: Kernel: WinNT (64-bit)
01:45:43 LOG: Version: 6.2, build 9200
01:45:43 LOG:
01:45:43 LOG: * CPU...
01:45:43 LOG: Vendor: AuthenticAMD
01:45:43 LOG: Name: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 Six-Core Processor
01:45:43 LOG: Type: 0, Family: 15, Model: 1, Stepping: 1
01:45:43 LOG: Clock: 3.20 GHz
01:45:43 LOG: Cores: 12
01:45:43 LOG: CMOV: Yes
01:45:43 LOG: SSE: Yes
01:45:43 LOG: Invariant TSC: Yes
01:45:43 LOG:
01:45:43 LOG: * Memory...
01:45:43 LOG: Total physical memory: 16336 MB
01:45:43 LOG: Free physical memory: 13999 MB
01:45:43 LOG:
01:45:43 LOG: Loaded "E:\IGRE\Steam\steamapps\common\Serious Sam 3\Bin\ScriptLua.dll".
01:45:43 LOG: Loaded "E:\IGRE\Steam\steamapps\common\Serious Sam 3\Bin\GameEnv_Steam.dll".
01:45:43 INF: GameEnv API: Steam
01:45:43 INF: Encoded user ID = 60c03e31:12023d4b
01:45:43 LOG: Error getting mixer source line info for microphone. Will not be able to control microphone.
01:45:43 LOG: Created thread 6200(ResourceLoader).
01:45:43 LOG: "$E:/IGRE/Steam/userdata/102004284/41070/local/SeriousSam3.ini" does not exist, skipping cvar loading.
01:45:43 ERR: Executable signature verification failed.
01:45:43 LOG: Trying to set display mode 1920x1080(fullscreen)...
01:45:43 INF:
01:45:43 INF: * Desktop settings...
01:45:43 INF: Color depth: 32-bit
01:45:43 INF: Desktop resolution: 1920 x 1080
01:45:43 INF: Virtual screen: 1920 x 1080
01:45:43 INF: Monitors attached: 1
01:45:43 LOG: Loaded "E:\IGRE\Steam\steamapps\common\Serious Sam 3\Bin\GfxD3D9.dll".
01:45:43 LOG: Loaded "D3D9.dll".
01:45:43 LOG: Loaded "D3DCompiler_43.dll".
01:45:43 LOG: Loaded "D3DX9_43.dll".
01:45:44 INF:
01:45:44 INF: Gfx API: Direct3D 9.0c
01:45:44 INF: Resolution: 1920 x 1080
01:45:44 INF: Vendor: nVidia (0x10DE)
01:45:44 INF: Driver: nvldumd.dll (0x1C82)
01:45:44 INF: Renderer: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti
01:45:44 INF: Version: 23.21.13.8871
01:45:44 INF: Video memory size: 4096 MB
01:45:44 INF: Available for textures: 4080 MB
01:45:44 INF: Active GPU(s): 1
01:45:44 INF: Driver version: 38871 (required: 30600)
01:45:44 LOG: Loaded "E:\IGRE\Steam\steamapps\common\Serious Sam 3\Bin\SfxXAD.dll".
01:45:44 LOG: Loaded "X3DAudio1_7.dll".
01:45:44 INF:
01:45:44 INF: Sfx API: XAudio2
01:45:44 INF: Device: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
01:45:44 INF: Mixer frequency: 48000 Hz
01:45:44 INF: Mixer voices: 2
01:45:44 INF: Max sound sources: 25
01:45:44 INF: Max total volume: 3
01:45:44 INF: Speaker config: stereo
01:45:44 INF: Environment FX: enabled
01:45:44 INF: Current environment: Padded cell
01:45:44 INF:
01:45:44 LOG: Loaded "E:\IGRE\Steam\steamapps\common\Serious Sam 3\Bin\SeriousSam3_Project.dll".
01:45:44 LOG: Content/SeriousSam3/All_01.gro: 6414 files, signature: OFFICIAL
01:45:44 LOG: Content/SeriousSam3/All_02.gro: 5133 files, signature: OFFICIAL
01:45:44 LOG: Content/SeriousSam3/All_145562.gro: 2565 files, signature: OFFICIAL
01:45:44 LOG: Content/SeriousSam3/All_147686.gro: 835 files, signature: OFFICIAL
01:45:44 LOG: Content/SeriousSam3/All_150406.gro: 627 files, signature: OFFICIAL
01:45:44 LOG: Content/SeriousSam3/All_170136.gro: 703 files, signature: OFFICIAL
01:45:44 LOG: Content/SeriousSam3/All_261096.gro: 312 files, signature: OFFICIAL
01:45:44 LOG: Content/SeriousSam3/CachedShaders_PC.gro: 2753 files, signature: OFFICIAL
01:45:44 LOG: Content/SeriousSam3/DLC_Sam3Extended.gro: 1161 files, signature: OFFICIAL
01:45:44 LOG: Content/SeriousSam3/DLC_Sam3Extended_261096.gro: 52 files, signature: OFFICIAL
01:45:44 LOG: Loading translation tables from Content/SeriousSam3/Locales/enu/.
01:45:44 LOG: Content/SeriousSam3/Locales/enu/translation.tbl
01:45:45 LOG: Content/SeriousSam3/Locales/enu/translation_All.tbl
01:45:45 LOG: Content/SeriousSam3/Locales/enu/translation_DLC_Sam3Extended.tbl
01:45:45 LOG: Loaded "E:\IGRE\Steam\steamapps\common\Serious Sam 3\Bin\CodecAudio_Vorbis.dll".
01:45:45 LOG: Module 'Bin/CodecAudio_Vorbis.module' loaded in '0.00' seconds.
01:45:45 LOG: Loaded "E:\IGRE\Steam\steamapps\common\Serious Sam 3\Bin\CodecVideo_Null.dll".
01:45:45 LOG: Module 'Bin/CodecVideo_Null.module' loaded in '0.00' seconds.
01:45:45 LOG: Loaded "E:\IGRE\Steam\steamapps\common\Serious Sam 3\Bin\Input.dll".
01:45:45 LOG: Loaded "xinput1_3.dll".
01:45:45 LOG: Applying gamepad config for gamepad GUID 78696e70757400000000000000000000
01:45:45 LOG: Applying gamepad config for gamepad GUID 78696e70757400000000000000000000
01:45:45 LOG: Applying gamepad config for gamepad GUID 78696e70757400000000000000000000
01:45:45 LOG: Applying gamepad config for gamepad GUID 78696e70757400000000000000000000
01:45:45 LOG: Module 'Bin/Input.module' loaded in '0.04' seconds.
01:45:45 LOG: Loaded "E:\IGRE\Steam\steamapps\common\Serious Sam 3\Bin\Game.dll".
01:45:45 LOG: Module 'Bin/Game.module' loaded in '0.00' seconds.
01:45:45 LOG: Loaded "E:\IGRE\Steam\steamapps\common\Serious Sam 3\Bin\ProcRender.dll".
01:45:45 LOG: Loaded "E:\IGRE\Steam\steamapps\common\Serious Sam 3\Bin\Shaders.dll".
01:45:45 LOG: Module 'Bin/Shaders.module' loaded in '0.01' seconds.
01:45:45 LOG: Module 'Bin/ProcRender.module' loaded in '0.04' seconds.
01:45:45 LOG: Module 'Bin/Shaders.module' loaded in '0.00' seconds.
01:45:45 LOG: Alienware LightFX is not installed.
01:45:45 LOG: Module 'Bin/SeriousSam3_Project.module' loaded in '1.15' seconds.
01:45:45 LOG: Created thread 8464(GameDataJobs).


-------- START OF LOG --------

01:52:25 LOG: Core version: $Version: distro_Sam3_PC; SeriousSam3-Windows-Final; 261096 2016-04-26 02:52:57 @builder09; Win32-Static-Final-Default$
01:52:25 LOG: Command: $ +gfxapi D3D11
01:52:25 LOG: Initializing timer.
01:52:25 LOG: QueryPerformanceFrequency: 3125002
01:52:25 LOG: Timestamp: 2018/04/15 01:52:25
01:52:25 LOG: Binary name: Sam3.exe
01:52:25 LOG: Binary soft path: Bin/
01:52:25 LOG: Binary hard path: E:\IGRE\Steam\steamapps\common\Serious Sam 3\Bin\
01:52:25 LOG: Application directory: E:\IGRE\Steam\steamapps\common\Serious Sam 3\
01:52:25 LOG: * OS...
01:52:25 LOG: Name: Windows 8
01:52:25 LOG: Kernel: WinNT (64-bit)
01:52:25 LOG: Version: 6.2, build 9200
01:52:25 LOG:
01:52:25 LOG: * CPU...
01:52:25 LOG: Vendor: AuthenticAMD
01:52:25 LOG: Name: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 Six-Core Processor
01:52:25 LOG: Type: 0, Family: 15, Model: 1, Stepping: 1
01:52:25 LOG: Clock: 3.20 GHz
01:52:25 LOG: Cores: 12
01:52:25 LOG: CMOV: Yes
01:52:25 LOG: SSE: Yes
01:52:25 LOG: Invariant TSC: Yes
01:52:25 LOG:
01:52:25 LOG: * Memory...
01:52:25 LOG: Total physical memory: 16336 MB
01:52:25 LOG: Free physical memory: 14061 MB
01:52:25 LOG:
01:52:25 LOG: Loaded "E:\IGRE\Steam\steamapps\common\Serious Sam 3\Bin\ScriptLua.dll".
01:52:25 LOG: Loaded "E:\IGRE\Steam\steamapps\common\Serious Sam 3\Bin\GameEnv_Steam.dll".
01:52:25 INF: GameEnv API: Steam
01:52:25 INF: Encoded user ID = 60c03e31:12023d4b
01:52:25 LOG: Error getting mixer source line info for microphone. Will not be able to control microphone.
01:52:25 LOG: Created thread 3724(ResourceLoader).
01:52:25 LOG: "$E:/IGRE/Steam/userdata/102004284/41070/local/SeriousSam3.ini" does not exist, skipping cvar loading.
01:52:26 ERR: Executable signature verification failed.
01:52:26 LOG: Trying to set display mode 1920x1080(fullscreen)...
01:52:26 INF:
01:52:26 INF: * Desktop settings...
01:52:26 INF: Color depth: 32-bit
01:52:26 INF: Desktop resolution: 1920 x 1080
01:52:26 INF: Virtual screen: 1920 x 1080
01:52:26 INF: Monitors attached: 1
01:52:26 LOG: Loaded "E:\IGRE\Steam\steamapps\common\Serious Sam 3\Bin\GfxD3D11.dll".
01:52:26 LOG: Loaded "D3D11.dll".
01:52:26 LOG: Loaded "D3DCompiler_43.dll".
01:52:26 LOG: Loaded "D3DX11_43.dll".
01:52:26 LOG: Loaded "DXGI.DLL".
01:52:28 INF:
01:52:28 INF: Gfx API: Direct3D 11
01:52:28 INF: Resolution: 1920 x 1080
01:52:28 INF: Vendor: nVidia (0x10DE)
01:52:28 INF: Driver: Direct3D 11 (11.0 features) (0x1C82)
01:52:28 INF: Renderer: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti
01:52:28 INF: Version: 0.0.0.38889
01:52:28 INF: Video memory size: 3072 MB
01:52:28 INF: Available for textures: 4095 MB
01:52:28 INF: Active GPU(s): 1
01:52:28 INF: Driver version: 38889 (required: 30600)
01:52:28 LOG: Loaded "E:\IGRE\Steam\steamapps\common\Serious Sam 3\Bin\SfxXAD.dll".
01:52:28 LOG: Loaded "X3DAudio1_7.dll".
01:52:28 INF:
01:52:28 INF: Sfx API: XAudio2
01:52:28 INF: Device: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
01:52:28 INF: Mixer frequency: 48000 Hz
01:52:28 INF: Mixer voices: 2
01:52:28 INF: Max sound sources: 25
01:52:28 INF: Max total volume: 3
01:52:28 INF: Speaker config: stereo
01:52:28 INF: Environment FX: enabled
01:52:28 INF: Current environment: Padded cell
01:52:28 INF:
01:52:28 LOG: Loaded "E:\IGRE\Steam\steamapps\common\Serious Sam 3\Bin\SeriousSam3_Project.dll".
01:52:28 LOG: Content/SeriousSam3/All_01.gro: 6414 files, signature: OFFICIAL
01:52:28 LOG: Content/SeriousSam3/All_02.gro: 5133 files, signature: OFFICIAL
01:52:28 LOG: Content/SeriousSam3/All_145562.gro: 2565 files, signature: OFFICIAL
01:52:28 LOG: Content/SeriousSam3/All_147686.gro: 835 files, signature: OFFICIAL
01:52:28 LOG: Content/SeriousSam3/All_150406.gro: 627 files, signature: OFFICIAL
01:52:28 LOG: Content/SeriousSam3/All_170136.gro: 703 files, signature: OFFICIAL
01:52:28 LOG: Content/SeriousSam3/All_261096.gro: 312 files, signature: OFFICIAL
01:52:29 LOG: Content/SeriousSam3/CachedShaders_PC.gro: 2753 files, signature: OFFICIAL
01:52:29 LOG: Content/SeriousSam3/DLC_Sam3Extended.gro: 1161 files, signature: OFFICIAL
01:52:29 LOG: Content/SeriousSam3/DLC_Sam3Extended_261096.gro: 52 files, signature: OFFICIAL
01:52:29 LOG: Loading translation tables from Content/SeriousSam3/Locales/enu/.
01:52:29 LOG: Content/SeriousSam3/Locales/enu/translation.tbl
01:52:29 LOG: Content/SeriousSam3/Locales/enu/translation_All.tbl
01:52:29 LOG: Content/SeriousSam3/Locales/enu/translation_DLC_Sam3Extended.tbl
01:52:29 LOG: Loaded "E:\IGRE\Steam\steamapps\common\Serious Sam 3\Bin\CodecAudio_Vorbis.dll".
01:52:29 LOG: Module 'Bin/CodecAudio_Vorbis.module' loaded in '0.00' seconds.
01:52:29 LOG: Loaded "E:\IGRE\Steam\steamapps\common\Serious Sam 3\Bin\CodecVideo_Null.dll".
01:52:29 LOG: Module 'Bin/CodecVideo_Null.module' loaded in '0.00' seconds.
01:52:29 LOG: Loaded "E:\IGRE\Steam\steamapps\common\Serious Sam 3\Bin\Input.dll".
01:52:29 LOG: Loaded "xinput1_3.dll".
01:52:29 LOG: Applying gamepad config for gamepad GUID 78696e70757400000000000000000000
01:52:29 LOG: Applying gamepad config for gamepad GUID 78696e70757400000000000000000000
01:52:29 LOG: Applying gamepad config for gamepad GUID 78696e70757400000000000000000000
01:52:29 LOG: Applying gamepad config for gamepad GUID 78696e70757400000000000000000000
01:52:29 LOG: Module 'Bin/Input.module' loaded in '0.02' seconds.
01:52:29 LOG: Loaded "E:\IGRE\Steam\steamapps\common\Serious Sam 3\Bin\Game.dll".
01:52:29 LOG: Module 'Bin/Game.module' loaded in '0.00' seconds.
01:52:29 LOG: Loaded "E:\IGRE\Steam\steamapps\common\Serious Sam 3\Bin\ProcRender.dll".
01:52:29 LOG: Loaded "E:\IGRE\Steam\steamapps\common\Serious Sam 3\Bin\Shaders.dll".
01:52:29 LOG: Module 'Bin/Shaders.module' loaded in '0.00' seconds.
01:52:29 LOG: Module 'Bin/ProcRender.module' loaded in '0.02' seconds.
01:52:29 LOG: Module 'Bin/Shaders.module' loaded in '0.00' seconds.
01:52:29 LOG: Alienware LightFX is not installed.
01:52:29 LOG: Module 'Bin/SeriousSam3_Project.module' loaded in '0.89' seconds.
01:52:29 LOG: Created thread 9416(GameDataJobs).


Well I put a part of accumulated file so you can notice that it always breaks at the same line (Created thread xxxx(GameDataJobs)).

[PandemoniumMaster]

The following is my system info:

System Information report written at: 04/15/18 20:21:18
System Name: DESKTOP-6AENCD0
[System Summary]

Item Value
OS Name Microsoft Windows 10 Pro
Version 10.0.16299 Build 16299
Other OS Description Not Available
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name DESKTOP-6AENCD0
System Manufacturer MSI
System Model MS-7A39
System Type x64-based PC
System SKU To be filled by O.E.M.
Processor AMD Ryzen 5 1600 Six-Core Processor, 3200 Mhz, 6 Core(s), 12 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date American Megatrends Inc. 2.70, 22.6.2017.
SMBIOS Version 3.0
Embedded Controller Version 255.255
BIOS Mode Legacy
BaseBoard Manufacturer MSI
BaseBoard Model Not Available
BaseBoard Name Base Board
Platform Role Desktop
Secure Boot State Unsupported
PCR7 Configuration Binding Not Possible
Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS
System Directory C:\WINDOWS\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume3
Locale Hrvatska
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "10.0.16299.371"
User Name DESKTOP-6AENCD0\korisnik
Time Zone Central European Daylight Time
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 16,0 GB
Total Physical Memory 16,0 GB
Available Physical Memory 13,0 GB
Total Virtual Memory 18,3 GB
Available Virtual Memory 15,2 GB
Page File Space 2,38 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys
Virtualization-based security Not enabled
Device Encryption Support Reasons for failed automatic device encryption: TPM is not usable, PCR7 binding is not supported, Hardware Security Test Interface failed and device is not InstantGo, Un-allowed DMA capable bus/device(s) detected, TPM is not usable
Hyper-V - VM Monitor Mode Extensions Yes
Hyper-V - Second Level Address Translation Extensions Yes
Hyper-V - Virtualization Enabled in Firmware No
Hyper-V - Data Execution Protection Yes

[Display]

Item Value
Name NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti
PNP Device ID PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1C82&SUBSYS_8C961462&REV_A1\4&1C3D25BB&0&0019
Adapter Type GeForce GTX 1050 Ti, NVIDIA compatible
Adapter Description NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti
Adapter RAM (1.048.576) bytes
Installed Drivers C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_dispi.inf_amd64_d37ca5c2cde53609\nvldumdx.dll,C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_dispi.inf_amd64_d37ca5c2cde53609\nvldumdx.dll,C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_dispi.inf_amd64_d37ca5c2cde53609\nvldumdx.dll,C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_dispi.inf_amd64_d37ca5c2cde53609\nvldumdx.dll
Driver Version 23.21.13.8871
INF File oem15.inf (Section136 section)
Color Planes Not Available
Color Table Entries 4294967296
Resolution 1920 x 1080 x 60 hertz
Bits/Pixel 32
Memory Address 0xFC000000-0xFD0FFFFF
Memory Address 0xE0000000-0xFEC2FFFF
Memory Address 0xF0000000-0xF1FFFFFF
I/O Port 0x0000E000-0x0000EFFF
IRQ Channel IRQ 54
I/O Port 0x000003B0-0x000003DF
I/O Port 0x000003C0-0x000003DF
Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF
Driver c:\windows\system32\driverstore\filerepository\nv_dispi.inf_amd64_d37ca5c2cde53609\nvlddmkm.sys (23.21.13.8871, 16,24 MB (17.028.552 bytes), 28.12.2017. 14:03)

Sorry, I couldn't put a whole file because a post can't have more than 18000 or so characters, so I put only basic info and display. If you need more info on my system jus tell me so I will put a part of file which you need.

It is also very odd that it states here there is only 1 GB of graphics adapter ram, because I know for a fact that this card has 4 GB RAM GDDR5 as it is also stated in NVidia properties.

[cheshirm]

might try updating nvidia driver. think 391.25 is latest. might have added something for win 10 updates and/or 10xx cards since Dec.

[Cunin]

Try what cheshirm suggested, and also, from the top of my head, I've had a similar problem with D3DOverrider (if you use that), so I had to disable it from detecting SS3.

You can also try the new version of Sam, Fusion, which includes SS3 and is constantly being updated.

[PandemoniumMaster]

Originally posted by cheshirm:

might try updating nvidia driver. think 391.25 is latest. might have added something for win 10 updates and/or 10xx cards since Dec.

Quite honestly, I don't think that will help but maybe I'll try that anyway. The reason of my doubt is that new drivers are completely oriented on better optimization for new games like PUBG, FarCry 5 and so on.

[cheshirm]

one (or more) of the nvidia drivers in Dec reported opengl as version 1.1 with win 10. opengl is on 4.6. some bug between nvidia driver and win 10 on 10xx cards. win 10 was patched and nvidia driver updated also. might be the problem. might not. its your machine. thought I would mention it.

[PandemoniumMaster]

Originally posted by Cunin:

You can also try the new version of Sam, Fusion, which includes SS3 and is constantly being updated.

Well, that's another story... I installed fusion earlier and it didn't work neither with very similar problem so when I had the same problem with SS3, I uninstalled fusion as I thought that they are in some conflict or something, but that didn't helped...

[cheshirm]

try deleting .ini . maybe corrupt or game is using data from old monitor.
...\steam\userdata/<yourSteamUser-id>/41070/local/SeriousSam3.ini

[Solais]

Is it possible that Win10 set the Sam3.exe on some sort of compatibility mode? Sometimes it happens and causes a gray screen error. It shouldn't have any compatibility mode on.

[PandemoniumMaster]

I deleted that config file and also checked compatibility mode and it was off, so just in case, I tried compatibility for Win7 but nothing changed... :(

[cheshirm]

game worked on your machine with that old 17 inch crt monitor with your current driver. plug it back in. if game works, then you know where the problem is.

[PandemoniumMaster]

Originally posted by cheshirm:

game worked on your machine with that old 17 inch crt monitor with your current driver. plug it back in. if game works, then you know where the problem is.

No, the game did NOT worked on THIS machine nor with this current driver. What I said is that CRT monitor was with old machine with graphic card and drivers from 2010 or so. I bought new monitor a 2 months or so before buying new configuration.
Btw I couldn't plug that old crane back in this new machine even if I wanted to because this new graphics card has only HDMI inputs and old monitor had only VGA plugin.

[cheshirm]

my mistake. misread your post. compared your log file with mine - mostly the same except for driver number down to where it fails. title says crash but post says freeze. if it crashes, check windows event viewer - maybe a game crash event to help narrow down the problem.

might be some program running on your pc and not mine.

since both fusion and this game fail, maybe something to do with the game engine and new 10xx card or Ryzen 5 cpu. try croteam support - if anyone would know, they would. might try fusion forum - maybe they have seen the problem.

[PandemoniumMaster]

I contacted croteam yesterday but still I got no answer so I'm nut sure what's going on. My best guess is that maybe they detected the game is not working on some newer graphics chipsets including GeForce 10xx so maybe they're already working on fixing this...?

Btw I'm from Croatia - the same country they're from (since the name - CROteam :)

[cheshirm]

while they are investigating, they will probably tell you to install the latest graphics driver. did you and got same result?