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Akira 1 DIC 2021 a las 4:03 a. m.
Possible to play with xbox elite controller on pc?
Hi everybody. I did buy this simulator to get my first impressions of fpv before buying equipment to start practicing in reality.

I knew that it would be harder to control a drone using a gamepad but for me the normal settings are so off that I can´t even fly through the first gate in tutorial mode hence even rise in a straight line.

In free mode I can fly around and even around a building but never exactly through doors and so on.

All guides seem to be years old.

Are there some good settings I NEED to set to really have some kind of good control?
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krazyzock 1 DIC 2021 a las 4:19 a. m. 
its mosly player preference, but flying with a game pad i would reccomend you try 3D mode, as it has the throttle in the middle, also you might want to try slower rates as itss very hard to do any kind of precise inputs on a gamepad, along the same line stick extensions are a cheap way to gain more controll on a gamepad, lastly I find that Liftoff: Micro Dronesrequieresalot more precision then the normal Liftoff: FPV Drone Racing, which is probably more beginner friendly in that way so you moght want to try that too

But themost important factor is really just sticktime with enoughsticktime youcan make anything work
Última edición por krazyzock; 1 DIC 2021 a las 4:35 a. m.
Akira 1 DIC 2021 a las 4:48 a. m. 
Thanks. I tried 3D and it feels similar. Would do you mean by slower rates?
Última edición por Akira; 1 DIC 2021 a las 4:53 a. m.
krazyzock 1 DIC 2021 a las 7:20 a. m. 
with rates you can set how the drone reacts to your inputs, so how fast it turns relative to your inputs, wether its linear or exponential...
Id reccomend you look on youtube for some videos on them shouldnt be hard to find pretty much every fpv youtube channel should have a video explaining what they are and how to set them up
JuniorDiscart  [desarrollador] 1 DIC 2021 a las 8:47 a. m. 
It takes quite a bit of time to get used to flying an FPV drone with a gamepad. Learning with an actual RC remote is easier (sticks are longer, so you have more precise control) but still takes hours to days of practicing to get it in your fingers. Gamepads have a disadvantage in terms of control granularity. Like krazyzock already mentions, stick extenders can help in getting some additional control. I learned to fly that way in Liftoff using a PS4 controller. These days I fly without them. Just as to let you know: it's definitely possible, but it has a learning curve. :)

Adjusting rates is best left to dedicated (video) tutorials, and basically come down to personal preferences and what kind of style you want to fly. They allow you to adjust how your drone reacts to your inputs: how fast should the drone react on a specific axis on a certain input. This is visualized in the curves you will see in the 'Flight Controller Settings' window. There are different curve models, and you should be able to find plenty of guides on how to get them to do what you want. :)

Another small tip: under the assumption that you're just starting out with Liftoff, I would recommend trying the experimental version of Liftoff, since we're doing a big update on physics and performance, as well as an update to our flight controller. It's optional, but it might save you a few moments of frustration in where you're building up muscle memory now, and have to re-adjust somewhat due to the changes of the update when it goes live on the main version. If you're interested, check out these links for more info:
- How to get access: https://www.liftoff-game.com/news/experimental-branch
- Overview of what's included in this version: https://www.liftoff-game.com/news/test-our-biggest-update-yet
- Latest patch notes of this version: https://www.liftoff-game.com/news/experimental-branch-update
Última edición por JuniorDiscart; 1 DIC 2021 a las 8:50 a. m.
Akira 2 DIC 2021 a las 2:01 a. m. 
Thanks so much for the kind answers. I will have a look at all informations. I am aware of having to put much time into practice but that is ok for me. Just didn´t want to start the wrong way with false settings which could lead to strong frustration.

I also ordered the BETAFPV Literadio 2 SE so I have a beginner remote controller which I think is the better solution for practice than a gamepad.

Later on I want to buy real equipment. But practice first.

I will test the experimental branch for sure. I am glad that you still do updates and hopefully with your software I can have a nice start in the world of fpv.

Thanks @krazyzock and @JuniorDiscart
Akira 3 DIC 2021 a las 8:13 a. m. 
Something is really wrong. I now have the BETAFPV Literadio 2 SE and also here:

In the tutorial when (like in the video shown) I only raise the left stick the drone drifts off the the side and I cant fly in a straight line. Even after hours this wont work. There seems to be some kind of calibration problem (I did the calibration in the simulator). In the race I cant even fly in the second target, because i cant move right.

I know that I need many hours/days of practice. But I don´t think that I need days for just flying in a straight line. I dont find any tutorials for this pad in lift off.
JuniorDiscart  [desarrollador] 3 DIC 2021 a las 10:10 a. m. 
Tbh, I wouldn't pay much attention to the current tutorial. It's quite outdated and the shots were filmed with a very early physics implementation. This part of Liftoff is long overdue a complete overhaul.

You're currently better off following some general guides on youtube (either from real life or simulators) and try to replicate what they do. Joshua Bardwell has a series of tutorial videos which you can directly translate into Liftoff (we based our tutorial of the console version of Liftoff on them).
Or, just start flying in Strawbale in free flight, and try to set some simple goals like flying through a gap in the fence, or through the barn. And then continue onwards with a simple track like the 01 track.
Akira 3 DIC 2021 a las 10:22 a. m. 
Thank you man for your patience. Feel like a real annoyance for asking all those questions as a beginner. But good that you say it. Was kinda irritated by the videos. Ah forgot to set your software to beta option. Need to try it.
krazyzock 4 DIC 2021 a las 7:05 a. m. 
you could also look at takanacy's YT (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWf5Ve3AsUsu_e2O2JZH4VQ) a pretty good pilot who flies Liftoff with PS4/PS5 controllers and is REALLY good with them, maybe you can lear sth from watching them
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