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Jug Jan 16, 2023 @ 9:25am
Question about tutorial controls
Hello! New FPV Drone pilot here. I noticed that on tutorials the left stick is all the way down and when it is moved a bit it moves forward. When I calibrate in the menu guide, it asks me to put my left stick in the middle. When I start tutorial my left stick stays in the middle and i need to put it way more forward than in the tutorial video to produce speed. Which way is the correct way?
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JuniorDiscart  [developer] Jan 16, 2023 @ 12:12pm 
Regarding the tutorials as they are now I would ignore them. They were recorded in an early access version of Liftoff more than 5 years ago with physics that are not representative anymore to what they are now.
We're in the process of releasing a new update that has a whole new and interactive tutorial which should better represent what Liftoff is about today.
Jug Jan 20, 2023 @ 12:27am 
Originally posted by JuniorDiscart:
Regarding the tutorials as they are now I would ignore them. They were recorded in an early access version of Liftoff more than 5 years ago with physics that are not representative anymore to what they are now.
We're in the process of releasing a new update that has a whole new and interactive tutorial which should better represent what Liftoff is about today.

Are there any estimations of launch? Until then, what would be the best way to learn and practice flying daily?
JuniorDiscart  [developer] Jan 20, 2023 @ 1:37am 
We hope(d) to release it this week, but there are still some issues that need to be resolved before we can release it properly.

Any series on, for example YouTube that teaches on how to fly FPV drones could be used and translated to things to do in Liftoff. Joshua Bardwell has a great series that's frequently used in the Free Rider simulator. Many of those can be directly used in Liftoff.
Pony Plop Jan 22, 2023 @ 12:29am 
The updated tutorial in the beta 1.5 version of the sim works really nicely! Got me up and running from total beginner to being able to complete the tutorial races and even snagging first place.
Jug Jan 22, 2023 @ 2:24am 
Originally posted by Pony Plop:
The updated tutorial in the beta 1.5 version of the sim works really nicely! Got me up and running from total beginner to being able to complete the tutorial races and even snagging first place.

I'll jump right in then! Thanks ;)
Twisted Carbon Jan 22, 2023 @ 11:02pm 
First make sure you have a quality controller that you will use to fly in real life. The controller should have functioning gimbals and not cause the drone to drift all over the place. I started with a betaFPV literadio 2 SE, but it would cause the drone to drift and made it hard to control the drone in the sim. I changed to a FrSky Taranis Q X7.

Throttle control is bad in the training tutorial, use the middle of the throttle stick travel for the 0 thrust move up to increase thrust, bottom end doesn’t do anything (they did not fix this in the experimental update to the tutorial). In game controls are better than the tutorial, and you use the full throttle travel. In the first lesson learn to fly around in line of sight mode ( push B on keyboard) works best on a big screen TV. The most important lesson is the Throttle and Pitch tutorial, master it.

Practice flying around the straw bale or The Green map. Learn to hover, Roll, flip forward and backwards, and power loop. Diving below trees and flying back up in Woodpecker level helps with learning Pitch control. To reduce damage and constant restarts use God mode until you stop crashing.

Videos on Acro Flying

Learn To Fly FPV In Under 24 Hours! https://youtu.be/Ou5i9zdyqn0

How to mix roll and yaw to turn and roll https://youtu.be/3aw001u9h1E

How-to Fly FPV Quadcopter/Drone // Beginner: Lesson 4 // Throttle Control https://youtu.be/7JQ-1S3cLjM

How To 10 FPV Freestyle Tricks | LEARN THESE FIRST https://youtu.be/0EqJ9C8KuTQ

HOW TO DIVE GAPS | THE EASY WAY https://youtu.be/szWj6FUhxxY (contains cursing)

Goals to improve flying.
Straw Bale: Fly forward turn right, then fly through barn door, then up out through the back window.

Practice orbiting fountain in Bando City.

In Minus Two fly straight forward towards the other side of the parking garage when you get to the wall do a 180-degree turn, then fly back to where you started and do a 180 turn again and repeat until it is fluid.

Go to FPV academy on YouTube watch the videos in the following list, you can also download the maps in liftoff workshop.
FPV academy beginner drill 3: Turning and Slowing Down.
FPV academy beginner drill 4: Throttle control
FPV academy beginner lesson 3: Turning.

Practice racing in Straw Bale field day map. Improve your lap time, do not miss gates and learn to recover when you miss gates instead of restarting.

Learn to fly in Liftoff arena hallways and use stairs to move between the three levels.
Twisted Carbon Jan 22, 2023 @ 11:13pm 
I forgot this video on hovering.
Why it's so hard to hover an FPV racing drone https://youtu.be/WW-BfkeLLCo
Jug Jan 23, 2023 @ 5:18am 
Originally posted by rmundle:
First make sure you have a quality controller that you will use to fly in real life. The controller should have functioning gimbals and not cause the drone to drift all over the place. I started with a betaFPV literadio 2 SE, but it would cause the drone to drift and made it hard to control the drone in the sim. I changed to a FrSky Taranis Q X7.

Throttle control is bad in the training tutorial, use the middle of the throttle stick travel for the 0 thrust move up to increase thrust, bottom end doesn’t do anything (they did not fix this in the experimental update to the tutorial). In game controls are better than the tutorial, and you use the full throttle travel. In the first lesson learn to fly around in line of sight mode ( push B on keyboard) works best on a big screen TV. The most important lesson is the Throttle and Pitch tutorial, master it.

Practice flying around the straw bale or The Green map. Learn to hover, Roll, flip forward and backwards, and power loop. Diving below trees and flying back up in Woodpecker level helps with learning Pitch control. To reduce damage and constant restarts use God mode until you stop crashing.

Videos on Acro Flying

Learn To Fly FPV In Under 24 Hours! https://youtu.be/Ou5i9zdyqn0

How to mix roll and yaw to turn and roll https://youtu.be/3aw001u9h1E

How-to Fly FPV Quadcopter/Drone // Beginner: Lesson 4 // Throttle Control https://youtu.be/7JQ-1S3cLjM

How To 10 FPV Freestyle Tricks | LEARN THESE FIRST https://youtu.be/0EqJ9C8KuTQ

HOW TO DIVE GAPS | THE EASY WAY https://youtu.be/szWj6FUhxxY (contains cursing)

Goals to improve flying.
Straw Bale: Fly forward turn right, then fly through barn door, then up out through the back window.

Practice orbiting fountain in Bando City.

In Minus Two fly straight forward towards the other side of the parking garage when you get to the wall do a 180-degree turn, then fly back to where you started and do a 180 turn again and repeat until it is fluid.

Go to FPV academy on YouTube watch the videos in the following list, you can also download the maps in liftoff workshop.
FPV academy beginner drill 3: Turning and Slowing Down.
FPV academy beginner drill 4: Throttle control
FPV academy beginner lesson 3: Turning.

Practice racing in Straw Bale field day map. Improve your lap time, do not miss gates and learn to recover when you miss gates instead of restarting.

Learn to fly in Liftoff arena hallways and use stairs to move between the three levels.

Whoa! Thank you! Very nice of you to put effort into this message. Appreciate it
Last edited by Jug; Jan 23, 2023 @ 5:18am
Twisted Carbon Jan 23, 2023 @ 7:58pm 
Your welcome. It takes a lot of practice. Setting goals in each map and working towards it results in improved flying. It is like riding a bike, the more you ride the faster your brain makes it second nature.
Jug Jan 23, 2023 @ 11:01pm 
Originally posted by rmundle:
Your welcome. It takes a lot of practice. Setting goals in each map and working towards it results in improved flying. It is like riding a bike, the more you ride the faster your brain makes it second nature.
Yesterady tried FPV academy beginner drill 3: Turning and Slowing Down. Really hard to maintain consistent motion.
JuniorDiscart  [developer] Jan 24, 2023 @ 2:35am 
We've just released the 1.5.0 update that has the new tutorial in there. We hope this will help you get started in Liftoff better now. :)
Twisted Carbon Jan 24, 2023 @ 2:37pm 
I just tried the the 1.5.0 tutorial. The throttle is still only kicking in after half way up the throttle, like 3D mode or too much expo, however It is easier to hover than in the previous version.
LuGus Studios  [developer] Jan 24, 2023 @ 11:57pm 
Originally posted by rmundle:
I just tried the the 1.5.0 tutorial. The throttle is still only kicking in after half way up the throttle, like 3D mode or too much expo, however It is easier to hover than in the previous version.
That's not specifically an issue with the tutorial logic as it does not define how the drone flies. However, the drone that we picked for the tutorial is not very powerful, and does require a lot of throttle input before it starts hovering. This is by design, to make it a bit easier for players new to FPV, we wouldn't want a drone that is super powerful and delicate to control.
Last edited by LuGus Studios; Jan 25, 2023 @ 12:06am
Twisted Carbon Jan 25, 2023 @ 9:48pm 
Originally posted by Totush:
Originally posted by rmundle:
Your welcome. It takes a lot of practice. Setting goals in each map and working towards it results in improved flying. It is like riding a bike, the more you ride the faster your brain makes it second nature.
Yesterady tried FPV academy beginner drill 3: Turning and Slowing Down. Really hard to maintain consistent motion.

Turning took me some time to figure out. Your brain must figure out the right mix of throttle roll, yaw and even pitch to navigate a turn. Flying in height restricted places like Minus Two helps improve throttle control and doing the 180 turns will help your brain figure out the mix of yaw, roll and pitch required for a turn. I find turns similar to doing half a orbit but with the orbit being much tighter. I practiced turning on the "FPV academy beginner lesson 3: Turning" map around the square track. load in custom position, then follow the markers on the ground. After you turn practice to straighten out the drone and follow along the markers. It is better to execute the turn properly than to go fast.
Jug Jan 26, 2023 @ 1:51am 
Originally posted by rmundle:
Originally posted by Totush:
Yesterady tried FPV academy beginner drill 3: Turning and Slowing Down. Really hard to maintain consistent motion.

Turning took me some time to figure out. Your brain must figure out the right mix of throttle roll, yaw and even pitch to navigate a turn. Flying in height restricted places like Minus Two helps improve throttle control and doing the 180 turns will help your brain figure out the mix of yaw, roll and pitch required for a turn. I find turns similar to doing half a orbit but with the orbit being much tighter. I practiced turning on the "FPV academy beginner lesson 3: Turning" map around the square track. load in custom position, then follow the markers on the ground. After you turn practice to straighten out the drone and follow along the markers. It is better to execute the turn properly than to go fast.

I am trying the same route. I think the thing with throttle working from the middle in the tutorial is a bit confusing. Idon't want to get used to one movement and then in real life try to re-learn
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