EARTH DEFENSE FORCE 4.1 The Shadow of New Despair

EARTH DEFENSE FORCE 4.1 The Shadow of New Despair

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Zaukodar Aug 14, 2022 @ 1:10am
Max Armor Question
I haven't gotten this far yet but I'm trying to collect some data to figure something out. If anyone can help in advance with this it would be immensely appreciated!

The question is: what are the max armor limits on the final mission in online mode? Ideally for all characters on Normal/Hard/Hardest if possible, otherwise then at least Ranger on Normal/Hard/Hardest.
Originally posted by BrendyBear:
For mission 98 Star Eaters (final mission online):
Ranger - Wing Diver - Air Raider - Fencer - Weapon Level Limit
Easy: See normal
Normal: 1500 - 800 - 1500 - 1876 - 25
Hard: 3500 - 1800 - 3500 - 4375 - 52
Hardest: 5000 - 2550 - 5000 - 6251 - 77
Inferno : No limits

Some additional info (because people always want to know about weapon drops):
For 98 the max level weapon drop is the weapon limit. This isn't the case for the other missions, where the max level weapon drop is a few levels below the weapon limit, with lower levels having a larger gap. More info on weapon drop level ranges:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=767702118
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BrendyBear Aug 14, 2022 @ 2:47am 
For mission 98 Star Eaters (final mission online):
Ranger - Wing Diver - Air Raider - Fencer - Weapon Level Limit
Easy: See normal
Normal: 1500 - 800 - 1500 - 1876 - 25
Hard: 3500 - 1800 - 3500 - 4375 - 52
Hardest: 5000 - 2550 - 5000 - 6251 - 77
Inferno : No limits

Some additional info (because people always want to know about weapon drops):
For 98 the max level weapon drop is the weapon limit. This isn't the case for the other missions, where the max level weapon drop is a few levels below the weapon limit, with lower levels having a larger gap. More info on weapon drop level ranges:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=767702118
Zaukodar Aug 14, 2022 @ 9:15am 
This helps a ton, thank you!

I'm trying to reverse engineer the formula for how much armor is allowed per mission so I can convert it into "this is how many armor crates you need to reach this limit." Because of the rounding issues in the game I'm having trouble nailing down the exact sequence and needed more data, short of bumrushing every single mission.
legionnoire Aug 14, 2022 @ 10:27am 
about the armor, one crate picked is not equal to +1 on your armor, it's more like 0.36 per crate or something like that. i think there is a wiki that explain all,
legionnoire Aug 14, 2022 @ 10:29am 
here, i found it, just scroll down to 4.1 :
https://theearthdefenseforce.fandom.com/wiki/Items#Armor_4
Zaukodar Aug 14, 2022 @ 1:22pm 
Thanks! I had found that before but it helped to double-check my numbers.

Maybe it's because of the floats and the constant rounding (which I'm not convinced is always down) but finding an exact pattern is excruciatingly painful.

For example: Mission 1 on Normal caps your armor at 472 crates' worth of armor pickups regardless of class. Then Mission 2 allows for 25 more crates' worth of armor pickups, then 27, then 26, and it just keeps pinballing between 25 and 28 at random intervals.

And then Fencer, at seemingly random points, allows for one additional pickup above the other classes.
Zaukodar Aug 14, 2022 @ 1:25pm 
This much I've figured out given all the data: if you pick up 11,323 armor crates your armor will be maxed in every non-Inferno mission.
Wendigo Aug 14, 2022 @ 4:36pm 
Originally posted by Zaukodar:
I haven't gotten this far yet but I'm trying to collect some data to figure something out. If anyone can help in advance with this it would be immensely appreciated!

The question is: what are the max armor limits on the final mission in online mode? Ideally for all characters on Normal/Hard/Hardest if possible, otherwise then at least Ranger on Normal/Hard/Hardest.

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