EARTH DEFENSE FORCE 4.1 The Shadow of New Despair

EARTH DEFENSE FORCE 4.1 The Shadow of New Despair

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Torcularis Sep 14, 2016 @ 8:11pm
What's the torch do?
Other than the fact that it's a frickin' blowtorch with an ACOG scope on it, what reason would you take it? It seems to do no damage to anything, even listing it as "negligible."Can it be used to repair vehicles that air raiders drop or something?
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Nasty Peep Sep 14, 2016 @ 8:40pm 
It might be a joke weapon? Idk about repairing, you should try it out
EDF; Storm 1 Sep 14, 2016 @ 9:29pm 
Nah man. Sh** is absolutely just a joke weapon. Much like "Speed Star" is a joke weapon for Air Raider, and the SDL1 is a joke vehicle.
Zeddy Sep 14, 2016 @ 10:34pm 
It's a joke weapon. I spent upwards of a full minute killing a single black and on easy with it.

Later flamethrowers are actually useful.

SDL1 is okay, but SDL1 Bike is absolutely a joke vehicle.
Jork Sep 15, 2016 @ 5:25am 
I don't know how anyone can drive any of the SDL1 bikes, period.
Last edited by Jork; Sep 15, 2016 @ 5:26am
Vashwave Sep 15, 2016 @ 5:56am 
SDL bike is a good meme vehicle to use in tunnels, in that you look like the dumbest person alive and you show off that yes Depth Crawlers aren't the only thing that can be called indoors.
Predator Goose Sep 15, 2016 @ 8:20am 
I think that the torch is for low-level vehicle healing. I've never had the chance to try it myself though.
Vashwave Sep 15, 2016 @ 8:26am 
Originally posted by Predator Goose:
I think that the torch is for low-level vehicle healing. I've never had the chance to try it myself though.

No it's a joke weapon.
ImHelping Sep 16, 2016 @ 10:05am 
Yeah, the really low level stuff can involve awkward prototypes. The blowtorch with a scope is just more obvious than others instead of the ones like 'This is the first version of a new assault rifle variant so we gave it garbage accuracy, but the NEXT one will be sweet".

There is also a can of bug spray with a tactical scope strapped to it, and handfulls of firecrackers.

The torch and bug spray eventually lead into the flamethrowers and acid supersoakers.

The handfulls of firecrackers... Become handfulls of firecrackers capable of leveling buildings. They are surprisingly great.
Last edited by ImHelping; Sep 16, 2016 @ 10:07am
Kilo Sep 17, 2016 @ 9:07am 
The torch is excellent at lighting up caves
ArtificialQT Sep 18, 2016 @ 12:00am 
There is a certain joke lazer gun for the Wing Diver. The description of the gun says that the gun never made it out of a testing phase because its 1st test-firing resulted in multiple fatalities, including the weapon's handler.

My Wing Diver friend decided to try this weapon anyway, based on the respectable 8 x scattershot damage and energy consumption it had on the stats screen.

Much to our dismay, we found that the gun actually fires 8 lazers in a lateral starburst pattern AROUND the Wing Diver, and he promptly shredded every soldier around him, including me.
Zeddy Sep 18, 2016 @ 12:21am 
^ I love that gun! My favourite aspect is that none of the 8 lasers fire anywhere around the direction you aim in.

My second favourite aspect is that it would've been a really effective gun had it not been for the 180% energy consumption.
B0nerLand Sep 18, 2016 @ 2:07am 
Hey something I discovered about the bikes. If you drive it, you should notice it wont go streight. It tries to turn around. however You can drive it backwards perfectly fine. I think its bugged and the front and back directions are reversed on it. Or it could just be a joke vehicle
Zeddy Sep 18, 2016 @ 2:17am 
The veering is entirely overcomable on most bikes (except SDL1 Bike, that one's beyond help). What do make bikes into joke vehicles is the fact that lightly bumping into a small pebble will blow it up. It's another one of those tough-to-balance things, because if the bike was easy to drive you could use it to kite golden ants on inferno between all four corners of the map, get out, fire all the explosives you have at them from miles away, rinse and repeat until you've won.

I know this is so because that's exactly how I used the hoverbikes in earlier games. And now it's got room for two people!

I would start using the bike if it could be called in instantly instead of having to wait for the regular helicopter drop.
ArtificialQT Sep 19, 2016 @ 10:37am 
Originally posted by BonerLand:
Hey something I discovered about the bikes. If you drive it, you should notice it wont go streight. It tries to turn around. however You can drive it backwards perfectly fine. I think its bugged and the front and back directions are reversed on it. Or it could just be a joke vehicle

Its due to the way that the game's physics engine works. Despite the fact that its janky as all hell, the vehicle physics were coded to be "realistic" in how they were intended to function.

The reason the bike pulls to one side when moving forward is because the bike's forward thrust is coming from the single rear drive-wheel, but the game's janky physics combined with the fact that its got a side-car makes the entire vehicle horrifically unbalanced and barely controllable while the rear-wheel tries to push the bike forward.

However, if you put the bike into reverse, the fact that rear wheel is now "pulling" the bike as oppossed to "pushing" it makes it much easier to control.

Imagine yourself trying to move an unbalanced heavy cart with only one hand. If you were to try to push the cart forward, the weight imbalance would cause the front of the cart to frequently swing out to the side whilst you struggled to maintain forward movement. However, if you were to get infront of the cart and pull it instead, the weight of the cart will help ensure that it remains mostly straight out behind you.

Its actually a real-world problem in vehicle design, keeping the front-wheels of a rear-wheel drive vehicle from losing traction and swinging out to the side, albeit exagerated to a hilarious degree. The only ground vehicles in the game that were not coded in this "realistic" manner are the Mechs.
Last edited by ArtificialQT; Sep 19, 2016 @ 10:49am
Exto Sep 19, 2016 @ 12:27pm 
I had no idea this game had joke weapons. Is acid weapon good for anything? I thought perhaps it melts dead bodies but it didn't do it.
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Date Posted: Sep 14, 2016 @ 8:11pm
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