Just stupid hard on multiplayer

[Fodder]

I know that I'll get dogpiled with "git gud" and stupid stuff like that, but the fact that weapons and armor are locked in multiplayer is ridiculous. I've got GREAT weapons that I can't use. I can't do enough DPS on the higher levels (after 90), so as a Ranger, I just get mobbed and die immediately. That leaves my partner vulnerable, and we die. It's just STUPID that the game forces you to play these massive monsters with pea-shooters that simply cannot take them down. A flying dragon that can shoot fire THROUGH buildings? Are you kidding? Seriously, it takes SO many shots to kill it, and the Ranger is a sitting duck, that you just die and die again. I LOVED this game until these end missions, but it is suddenly STUPID HARD and artificially limited by weapon-level. What a waste.

[Chaotic Harmony]

Originally posted by Magician Vℓα∂y:

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Omg you're as bad as the people who play FF and don't want spoilers for ~20yr old games; The dragons/wyverns are on the store page and promotional materials as well. Even considering those never show the context you face them in; seeing one or two dragons or using the word dragons gives no hints to the "plot line" of the game. This is also completely off-topic and you managed to filled two pages of text with nonsense of why people should not say the freaking word dragon.

For the OP; knowing what difficulty you're on along with HP values and how many people would help a lot in easing your issues.

[Rager]

This community sure is a ton of fun.

[cowbell]

Originally posted by Rager:

This community sure is a ton of fun.

You are quite a funny bug.

[boneknocker]

dude ! if i use lv99 that i farm from playing solo on mp mode in the difficulty that lower than inferno........what fun left to play i wonder ?

do you even know what the "ultimate" weapon can do ? with the right class i can clean the whole map on my own ! can you really enjoy a game that when start i say "stay here i will clean the whole map for u" then in the next few minutes later what you have to do is just pick up free loots........epic fail and pointless for mp mode so far.

*ps* if you don't knew yet, EDF5 and EDF Iron Rain is must more harder than 4.1 ! let say even in solo mode, the developer suggest people to start from easy first. when mp mode will guanrantee need more player skill and team work. if you don't like difficulty game i think you better go play something softer or lighter than this series.

[Gills Du'Tweeb]

Don't get discouraged from all the noise, Fodder! It is a cold fact that the game is balls hard and merciless on 2-player online. You'd think it'd be just as difficult as playing on split screen, but that definitely isn't the case. The online multiplayer was really balanced for 4 players. There are enemy hp and damage multipliers based on the number of players in the room, but the game barely gets any harder going from 2 to 4 players. You should just get some random people in if you can't get more of your friends to buy the game, just mute the voice chat altogether or mute your own mic from windows

[Chaotic Harmony]

Originally posted by Big Snuffa:

Don't get discouraged from all the noise, Fodder! It is a cold fact that the game is balls hard and merciless on 2-player online. You'd think it'd be just as difficult as playing on split screen, but that definitely isn't the case. The online multiplayer was really balanced for 4 players. There are enemy hp and damage multipliers based on the number of players in the room, but the game barely gets any harder going from 2 to 4 players. You should just get some random people in if you can't get more of your friends to buy the game, just mute the voice chat altogether or mute your own mic from windows

There's a 3x muliplier playing solo Multiplayer or 4 people; 2 people it's 1.8x. So really the best way for them to play is 2 people; there are missions that are easier for 4 people with the right gear. But Imo its heavily dependent on the mission.

[Gills Du'Tweeb]

Originally posted by Chaotic Harmony:

There's a 3x muliplier playing solo Multiplayer or 4 people; 2 people it's 1.8x. So really the best way for them to play is 2 people; there are missions that are easier for 4 people with the right gear. But Imo its heavily dependent on the mission.

But that's where you're wrong, those are the multipliers for the original EDF 2025 on ps3/x360, they rebalanced the difficulty for 4.1. These are the multipliers for 4.1:

Offline 1 or 2 players: 1x HP, 1x ATK
Online 2 players: 2.2x HP, 2.6x ATK
Online 3 players: 2.3x HP, 2.7x ATK
Online 1 or 4 players: 2.4x HP, 2.85x ATK

[Chaotic Harmony]

Originally posted by Big Snuffa:

Originally posted by Chaotic Harmony:

There's a 3x muliplier playing solo Multiplayer or 4 people; 2 people it's 1.8x. So really the best way for them to play is 2 people; there are missions that are easier for 4 people with the right gear. But Imo its heavily dependent on the mission.

But that's where you're wrong, those are the multipliers for the original EDF 2025 on ps3/x360, they rebalanced the difficulty for 4.1. These are the multipliers for 4.1:

Offline 1 or 2 players: 1x HP, 1x ATK
Online 2 players: 2.2x HP, 2.6x ATK
Online 3 players: 2.3x HP, 2.7x ATK
Online 1 or 4 players: 2.4x HP, 2.85x ATK

Source?

[Gills Du'Tweeb]

Originally posted by Chaotic Harmony:

Source?

https://www2.atwiki.jp/edf41/pages/38.html#id_db210de5

http://theearthdefenseforce.wikia.com/wiki/Earth_Defense_Force_4.1:_The_Shadow_of_New_Despair#Online

[Chaotic Harmony]

Originally posted by Big Snuffa:

Originally posted by Chaotic Harmony:

Source?

https://www2.atwiki.jp/edf41/pages/38.html#id_db210de5

http://theearthdefenseforce.wikia.com/wiki/Earth_Defense_Force_4.1:_The_Shadow_of_New_Despair#Online

Wow; the more you know.

[Fodder]

"There are enemy hp and damage multipliers based on the number of players in the room, but the game barely gets any harder going from 2 to 4 players. You should just get some random people in if you can't get more of your friends to buy the game, just mute the voice chat altogether or mute your own mic from windows."

Big Snuffa, thank you MUCH!

[Jork]

SPOILERS OMG

[P3TROL3UM J3LLY]

Im pretty sure the difficulty for one person on multiplayer is the same as it is for 4 people, they make it difficult to go it alone.

[Fodder]

No, the developer has only ONE thing to say to the likes of me: "Fug you, player. YOU won't be buying any more of our stuff ever again!" And the developer will be correct.

[Chaotic Harmony]

Originally posted by Fodder:

No, the developer has only ONE thing to say to the likes of me: "Fug you, player. YOU won't be buying any more of our stuff ever again!" And the developer will be correct.

You haven't told us what difficulty your playing on; what armor\weapons you have or anything else that could be used to help you. This game is hard for sure but the MP campaign is beatable; you just have to be willing to put in the time and effort.