Question about the story.

[Rowsdower]

Is there any reason why the places you travel to are unpopulated by humans? I mean the places you go to are lush and beautiful so surely there is some civilization there. I know Serious Sam 2 (which I haven’t played yet) has NPCs but why not South America or Babylon?

[T02my]

The humans were turned into beheaded army, that's good enough explonation for FPS game and to fight Mental's army. Or probably they were enslaved, kidnapped... In SS 2 we attack homeworlds of other species and some of them could collaborate with the enemy, that's why they are not wiped out :D

[SpyroGuy]

The beheaded people are actually aliens from another planet, but still after all these years I never really knew where the original inhabitants of these places went. They were probably exterminated by Mental's forces already by the time Sam arrives to Ancient Egypt, but tbh, I have no idea. xD

[Rowsdower]

Originally posted by SpyroGuy:

The beheaded people are actually aliens from another planet, but still after all these years I never really knew where the original inhabitants of these places went. They were probably exterminated by Mental's forces already by the time Sam arrives to Ancient Egypt, but tbh, I have no idea. xD

For massacres everything is pretty clean until sam comes to massacre them again.

[SpyroGuy]

I'd say that it may have happened some time before Sam arrived or all of these people have just ran off in horror when they saw these strange monsters appearing out of nowhere, walking around attacking everyone.

[kit]

SS3 BFE (prequel) states that mankind was on the brink of extinction and that sam used the timelock to travel to another time (the past) to stop mentals invasion, mentals forces invaded and started mass killing everyone and i believe the beginning video for SS TFE and SSHD TFE also make light of this situation more.

theres one big story to be had from ALL the FPS serious sam games (not entirely sure of the indie games like random encounter and double D XXL as i dont have those) but as far as the FPS ones go:

mental invaded and killed humans to the brink of extinction, sam activated and went through the timelock, went to the past to stop mentals invasion, mental ALSO sent troops to the past to stop sam cause im guessing that the timelock had a delay compared to what mental used to teleport back in time, so sam goes on a tee total rampage through mentals forces across half the world to put an end to him, avenge the human race including his friends hellfire, rodrigo, and jones, and restore order to the world, after he ran across half the world, killed ugzhan and mentals armies, and mental wasn't where he was supposed to be at the cathedral but mordekai instead, sam wipes him out and takes the holy grail. after all that sam was summoned by the "sirian great council" to collect 5 pieces of an ancient medallion to stop mental once in for all, comedy ensues through tons of amazing worlds and the serious sam universe is expanded on more. sam fights through more hordes only to find mental's STILL not where hes supposed to be and finds out the entire thing was a hoax set up by some nerd fans and were left with one of the worst anticlimatic endings to a serious sam game, so sam is still left to hunt down and take out mental

its WELL worth paying attention to the entire storyline cause its just brilliant, its a bit like a cartoon where in the end the bad guy ALWAYS gets away but the commentary is great....im just hoping they get on to making serious sam 4 and dont skip on the plot cause thats a bit of what i enjoy the SS games for, the storyline consistancy....i mean mostly the intense action but theres story to be had.

I own almost all the serious sam games besides the next encounter which was stolen from me and the indie games, but I have the classic TFE and TSE as well as revolution, HD TFE and TSE, SS2 and SS3, i even have TFE and TSE in jewel cases cause I always support croteam on their efforts. its a wonderful series and well worth paying a lot of attention to.

[SpyroGuy]

Just a little bit of correction: Mental warned his past self about Sam arriving there (or "Past" Mental just "felt" the activation of the Timelock, there's a version like this in my head as well) who then sent his own past versions of troops after Sam, at least that's what makes more sense after we see the upgraded versions of the same troops in BFE such as the bulls and the Biomechanoids.

[kit]

since im playing through TFE again ill see if netricsa says anything about it, i coulda sworn it was cause a time delay cause sam used an old ancient piece of hardware where as mental had the ability to at a quicker speed.

then again though i could be very wrong cause the next encounter mental has a "personal time-lock" and told evil sam not to use it, but TNE happened after TFE and TSE so by now mental knows sam jumped around using the time-lock and probably mimic'd the time-lock so he could do it too.

the point is theres a huge storyline involved thats enjoyable if you pay attention to that sort of stuff :D and theres sure to be people to have conversations with about it too if you noticed lol.

[SpyroGuy]

I don't consider TNE canon tbh, because I have no idea when it could have taken place. Not before BFE, because mankind never had any Timelock prototypes or anything else like it and certainly not after the Encounters or SS2. Not to mention that the devs of that game had the balls to give us a look of Mental, something that EVEN Croteam hasn't done yet.

With that said, it's most certainly non-canon and it's better that way.

[Solais]

Originally posted by DeRp Fennec:

thats a bit of what i enjoy the SS games for, the storyline consistancy....

AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

Storyline consistency....AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Well, that was the best joke I read today. Besides the story of SS.

If you actually pay attention, read every netricsa entry in all games, you easily find out, that the storyline have ZERO consistency, and is full of glaring plotholes, between SS3 and SS1/SSHD, or even between SSHD/SS1 and SS2. Hell, seeing that Croteam is considering a complete ground-up remake of SS2, I think it is safe to say that SS2 is no longer canon. Which really what it mostly was always, because it just threw out every story and lore from SS1, and then made up its own ♥♥♥♥.

When it comes to the story, Croteam have a REALLY long way to go; and seeing how we had two games of similar style since the release of SS3 (Shadow Warrior and Wolfenstein: The New Order), having incredibly good story and writing, Croteam really have to step up their game high time now, otherwise the series might be left behind.

[SpyroGuy]

Ehhh..I actually don't give a crap about the story if the game is so good that I can't put it down and I keep coming back, but you have a point. I always considered the Netricsa logs as some additional good, easter eggs, so to say, something that I read only when loading my game takes a bit longer than it normally would.

Edit: I didn't play Wolfenstein: TNO for the story either. xD

[Solais]

That's the thing, really, I haven't played Shadow Warrior and W:TNO for the story either, and this is why they left such a large impression on me. I thought that I'll just play a stupid game about slicing demons, or a game about shooting nazis on the moon, and their stories just hit me in the face, and I just can't go back anymore. :P

[SpyroGuy]

I will in due time, but at the moment I'm busy working out with Sonic & the Secret Rings.
Yeah, working out, literally! xD