No Mouse Input and Crash after Community Modpack

[Bobbleplx]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/mafia-remastered

This mod, when installed, either crashes with the error "Can't Load Shader" or loads just fine but with all mouse input disabled. I have tried various combinations of mods and sometimes it freezes and sometimes I can use the mouse but only on a white screen, but there doesn't seem to be any one combination that makes the game run AND the mouse work. I have looked around but nobody seems to have discovered a solution either of these issues, and it's probably too late for a developer patch. Does anyone know how to fix this?

[Bobbleplx]

Uninstalled and it was still there. Might warrant a clean install.

[Bobbleplx]

Never mind. Turned it off and on again and that worked. If only I had thought of that 7 hours ago.

[Dark Nero *=_VF_=*]

Can you specify what exactly did you "turn off and on"?

There is no such option for the Community ModPack to turn it off, it can only be uninstalled.

[Bobbleplx]

Originally posted by Dark Nero *=_VF_=*:

Can you specify what exactly did you "turn off and on"?

There is no such option for the Community ModPack to turn it off, it can only be uninstalled.

Bit late to be replying to this. I don't even remember what I did to fix it, probably just a power cycle. There's a remake of this game out now and it's brilliant; if you're having this problem, forget about it and buy that instead.

[Dark Nero *=_VF_=*]

Not late, I still have problems with the modpack. It always crashes after 5-10 minutes in the game.
Had to ask here, since you told you solved the problem in some way.

Mafia Remastered is a completely different game.

The main hero is different, and his motivation is absolutely non-fitting the original story.
Other characters are different as well, Paulie being the most annoying. He has nothing common with Paulie from original game.
Music is different, missing in most places. Original had some beautiful music from 50-s. Boy, the La Verdine melody during the Runing Man mission is a masterpiece alone.

Though the new game itself might be good in its own ways, it cannot replace the original Mafia: The City of Lost Heaven in any way.

[Bobbleplx]

Originally posted by Dark Nero *=_VF_=*:

Not late, I still have problems with the modpack. It always crashes after 5-10 minutes in the game.
Had to ask here, since you told you solved the problem in some way.

Mafia Remastered is a completely different game.

The main hero is different, and his motivation is absolutely non-fitting the original story.
Other characters are different as well, Paulie being the most annoying. He has nothing common with Paulie from original game.
Music is different, missing in most places. Original had some beautiful music from 50-s. Boy, the La Verdine melody during the Runing Man mission is a masterpiece alone.

Though the new game itself might be good in its own ways, it cannot replace the original Mafia: The City of Lost Heaven in any way.

While I am excited to have met someone who has also played this very obscure title, I have to admit that I kind of hate this game, and I feel ashamed to admit I played it. I thought it was very repetitive and the difficulty wasn't enjoyable and severely clashed with the pace of the story. You said the remake changed the story a lot but I'm not sure what you're referring to. Much of the dialogue was rewritten but the broad strokes are all the same (even in the main character's motivations). It might be that the characters are different and the music was changed but you shouldn't look at that as a bad thing. You can't deny that the quality of the writing and acting is far superior, and the licensed songs are excellent (and probably more fitting, the piece you mentioned was recorded in the 1990s and I'm sure you can understand if the new developers preferred to have a non-anachronistic soundtrack). While I know the original was groundbreaking 18 years ago, it has long since been surpassed by other contemporaries in the genre. I think you need to look at it from a modern perspective, and not as it was in 2002.
Forgive me for this, but I also have to ask if you have played the remake? Or are you inferring your ideas from what you have seen and heard on the internet? If you haven't yet, I would definitely recommend you try the Definitive Edition. Pretty much all of this has been me trying to sell this game to you, because you clearly enjoyed the original, and this is everything you liked about it and more.

[Dark Nero *=_VF_=*]

Originally posted by Bobbleplx:

You said the remake changed the story a lot but I'm not sure what you're referring to.

I have explained what was changed in remake. And I clearly indicated what I am referring to in previous post.

Originally posted by Bobbleplx:

but the broad strokes are all the same (even in the main character's motivations)

No, it is not. You definitely played Mafia: The City of Lost Heaven not attentively if you don't see the difference. As an example of how much the Tommy individuality was changed, look at the intro scene of the Molotov Party mission.
Original (time 34:20): https://youtu.be/TNVKWC_IL7c?t=2060
Remake (time 25:10): https://youtu.be/xcajP0wu6RA?t=1510

In original, Tommy was never interested in agression, in revenge, in criminal, in killing and blowing things up. He was a regular taxi driver, a calm, peaceful and a bit shy person. And that was the story, telling how even such a person could become a criminal, become a mafia.
In the scene, Tommy did not want to go kill people and blow up cars, and he reluctantly accepted this task from don Salieri, only because he was kind of forced to do it due to circumstances.

In remake, Tommy looks like a bully from your local neighbourhood, who just looks for any opportunity to beat someone up, he is intrigued that now he can release his agression and be backed up by a mafia clan while doing that. One can definitely see and feel, how glad he is about the fact that now he is going to blow some cars, beat someone and maybe even kill some guys.

Those are compltely different characters of Tommy, with completely different worldview and motivations.

Originally posted by Bobbleplx:

the piece you mentioned was recorded in the 1990s and I'm sure you can understand if the new developers preferred to have a non-anachronistic soundtrack

Anachronistic soundtrack? Are you serious? The action in the game is happening in 1930! And you call soundtrack from 1990's "anachronistic"? Man, it works for the atmosphere. If the action is happening in 1930, and one wants to get an immersion of the world and time he is placed in, a music that sounds like 1930's music is the required thing. Not some modern music from 2020.

Also, can you tell me, which music is being played during the Running Man mission in the remake? The answer is: NONE.
A beatiful, perfectly fitting The La Verdine in the original. NOTHING in the remake.

Originally posted by Bobbleplx:

While I know the original was groundbreaking 18 years ago, it has long since been surpassed by other contemporaries in the genre.

By which games? Since you stated that, call some titles, other than Mafia, that are open-world, have free ride, and tell amazing story about a regular man becoming a mafiozo.

Originally posted by Bobbleplx:

I also have to ask if you have played the remake? Or are you inferring your ideas from what you have seen and heard on the internet?

Everything I told you is my personal opinion about the game, not taken from Internet. And if, for example, I talk about the cutscene, it is not important whether I watched the cutscene in a walkthrough on YouTube or installed a game to see that cutscene.

I did not say that Mafia Remake is a bad game. As a standalone game, it is good. But from a storyline and character perspective, it is completely different game. Also gameplay-wise, new game is too easy, and even on maximum difficulty it doesn't offer any challenge at all.

Originally posted by Bobbleplx:

I kind of hate this game, and I feel ashamed to admit I played it

Well, that sounds inadequate. Now I regret a bit about keeping a discussion with you -_-

[Bobbleplx]

Originally posted by Dark Nero *=_VF_=*:

Originally posted by Bobbleplx:

You said the remake changed the story a lot but I'm not sure what you're referring to.

I have explained what was changed in remake. And I clearly indicated what I am referring to in previous post.

Originally posted by Bobbleplx:

but the broad strokes are all the same (even in the main character's motivations)

No, it is not. You definitely played Mafia: The City of Lost Heaven not attentively if you don't see the difference. As an example of how much the Tommy individuality was changed, look at the intro scene of the Molotov Party mission.
Original (time 34:20): https://youtu.be/TNVKWC_IL7c?t=2060
Remake (time 25:10): https://youtu.be/xcajP0wu6RA?t=1510

In original, Tommy was never interested in agression, in revenge, in criminal, in killing and blowing things up. He was a regular taxi driver, a calm, peaceful and a bit shy person. And that was the story, telling how even such a person could become a criminal, become a mafia.
In the scene, Tommy did not want to go kill people and blow up cars, and he reluctantly accepted this task from don Salieri, only because he was kind of forced to do it due to circumstances.

In remake, Tommy looks like a bully from your local neighbourhood, who just looks for any opportunity to beat someone up, he is intrigued that now he can release his agression and be backed up by a mafia clan while doing that. One can definitely see and feel, how glad he is about the fact that now he is going to blow some cars, beat someone and maybe even kill some guys.

Those are compltely different characters of Tommy, with completely different worldview and motivations.

Originally posted by Bobbleplx:

the piece you mentioned was recorded in the 1990s and I'm sure you can understand if the new developers preferred to have a non-anachronistic soundtrack

Anachronistic soundtrack? Are you serious? The action in the game is happening in 1930! And you call soundtrack from 1990's "anachronistic"? Man, it works for the atmosphere. If the action is happening in 1930, and one wants to get an immersion of the world and time he is placed in, a music that sounds like 1930's music is the required thing. Not some modern music from 2020.

Also, can you tell me, which music is being played during the Running Man mission in the remake? The answer is: NONE.
A beatiful, perfectly fitting The La Verdine in the original. NOTHING in the remake.

Originally posted by Bobbleplx:

While I know the original was groundbreaking 18 years ago, it has long since been surpassed by other contemporaries in the genre.

By which games? Since you stated that, call some titles, other than Mafia, that are open-world, have free ride, and tell amazing story about a regular man becoming a mafiozo.

Originally posted by Bobbleplx:

I also have to ask if you have played the remake? Or are you inferring your ideas from what you have seen and heard on the internet?

Everything I told you is my personal opinion about the game, not taken from Internet. And if, for example, I talk about the cutscene, it is not important whether I watched the cutscene in a walkthrough on YouTube or installed a game to see that cutscene.

I did not say that Mafia Remake is a bad game. As a standalone game, it is good. But from a storyline and character perspective, it is completely different game. Also gameplay-wise, new game is too easy, and even on maximum difficulty it doesn't offer any challenge at all.

Originally posted by Bobbleplx:

I kind of hate this game, and I feel ashamed to admit I played it

Well, that sounds inadequate. Now I regret a bit about keeping a discussion with you -_-

Dear Mr Dark Nero *=_VF_=*,
Reading your responses, it's clear to me that you have an immense personal connection with this 18-year-old game. So while we could sit here all day discussing semantics of what's changed, what's better and what's worse, and why, and maybe eventually spiraling into personal insults and attacks, I am well aware of the futility of arguing with a stranger on the internet, and no amount of discussions will actually change any of our opinions. So you can continue to like this game that I don't like, and I'm not going to call you out for it. Maybe you will never purchase the remake and continue to hold the same opinions, maybe you will purchase the remake and decide that you love it, maybe you will purchase the remake and decide that you hate it. Either way, as I guess I should grudgingly admit, it makes no actual difference to me. So I will probably choose to end the discussion here.
As to further reasons why, I am also well aware of the toxicity inherent to certain video games, and this one seems to be a hive of such. While general reception has been very positive, my personal experience of reading the discussion forums has revealed a certain set of people who can only be described as "toxic gamers," going beyond taking every opportunity to insult the most minor facets of the remake beyond what can be considered reasonable discussion, and devolving into sexism and insults directed at people I can guarantee they have never met. I do not know if you are one of these people, and maybe I don't want to know, but seeing those kinds of messages that are at times even straying into hate speech has rather soured my views on the 2002 original's community, and even on the larger gaming community in general. I have been trying to cut that kind of negativity out of my life, and in a year as bad as this one, extra negativity is the last thing anyone needs. You are absolutely free to reply to this, and I will most certainly read what you have to say, but please understand if I do not reply to your response. It's not me trying to be rude, or intentionally ignoring you, just what may be best for both of us. I wish you luck in the future.
Best,
Bobbleplx.

[Dark Nero *=_VF_=*]

I have watched full walkthrough on youtube, so there is not much reason for me to buy if for the full price. Unless I will want to explore the game world, which is doubtful, since game world was cut in comparison to original, and there are other modern games with the worlds much bigger than this game has to offer.

Maybe one day when this game goes on -75% or more sale, I will buy it just to fill my steam collection of hundreds of games.

Anyway, even if I eventually buy it for my collection, it has nothing to do with the fact it is worse than original in many aspects and will not fully replace the original game, forever being just an "alternative view on the original game events with modern graphics".