Would You Kindly: Remind me, was Rosies this tough?

[gNuff!~©~gNom3™]

Going through on Survivor difficulty, and after using all my effort to kill the first Daddy just to find no matter what i got squashed by the next Rosie, i tried to look up some reminder tips, and sure enough all say the same,
Use electro, splosives, armor pierce..

but the catch is.. for some reason it just does near to 0 damage, even with some dmg upgrades.

empty 10 eve bars just to keep it slightly stunned, since 1 dmg breaks the stun, and is ofc immune to too fast consecutive stuns,
empty all mags of electro bucks (does so little damage after 24 rounds has not even lost 20% hp)
follow up by emptying full mag of splosive shot and armor pierce, almost nada dmg
folow up by 6 proximity mines, yay now at 50% hp..
empty frag, stil 25% maybe slighty more/less hp .. but oh oh.. out of ammo, out of eve aaaaand Rosies 1 shot your hp ull down, so there goes my 10th medkit..

remind me, as i might remember wrong... but rosies didnt use to be this damage resistant, even with dmg upgrade to shotgun and rocket launcher, i could swear it used to take like 6-10 mines/frags max to kill it
any1 happen to have gone through the survivor mode on PS3 recently so i know if im wrong or not

[TitanROG]

I remember I finished survivor on ps3 without dying a single time back in the day to get the platinum trophy. An easy and cheesy tactic is to use the hypnotize big daddy plasmid if you are saving the little sisters. You'll need to kill the first Rosie by your self though but I remember I gathered every single explosive in the area (they were around 6-7) and when he went by them I shot the barrels and it took 3/4 of his health so it was pretty easy to finish him off.

[gNuff!~©~gNom3™]

dont the Sisters run away/reset when you use hypnotize ???

yea i figured i would have to cheese them in some way, was the only way i managed to get the bouncer Daddy,easy if enough to abuse since he's melee,
but Rosies damn near 1 shotting you with that perfect aim rivet gun from a mile away just didnt make it so.
Gonna try to get it and try hypnotize the bugger, i could just have sworn the sisters used to reset, making it sorta pointless.

[J.Freeman, Saver of humens]

The first Rosie is probably the hardest fight in the game, since only two rivets get you down to minimum health.

[(MP) Bud Tendy]

use telikinesis to gather & stack together 4-5 gas bottles near to one of the holes in the wall that they take little sisters too, when the daddy is next to them shoot the gas bottles or use telikinesis to launch another gas bottle or splody drum into the pile....ez

[The Black Vvulf]

How did you get to the first rosie fight? when i do the plane crash sequence I fall to the bottom of the ocean to either drown or fall into a deeper pit and die

[Pweeen]

Originally posted by Ego:

How did you get to the first rosie fight? when i do the plane crash sequence I fall to the bottom of the ocean to either drown or fall into a deeper pit and die

Same

[gNuff!~©~gNom3™]

Originally posted by Ego:

How did you get to the first rosie fight? when i do the plane crash sequence I fall to the bottom of the ocean to either drown or fall into a deeper pit and die

Originally posted by President Pweeen:

Same

sry to hear, you are having that issue, this is an issue some people are experiencing, that seem to be tied to graphics/software, some got it fixed by altering various graphics settings, others didnt as it seem
me myself i am one of those lucky ones that have experienced no issues what soever, other than the stuff that was in the original too,
i will link a thread where some got it solved http://steamcommunity.com/app/409710/discussions/0/350542145691035515/?ctp=3
all there is if experiencing issues is do the basic:
1: Verify game cache
2: Make sure all requirements are met (some are playing without service pack 1 some without platform update)
3: make sure all game drivers are updated, graphics driver, (also as a later step try reverting to an older driver if you are using the very newest), sound drivers, DirectX updated, make sure you have the both 9, 10 11, including all library files/ .dll's(you might need the big library from microsoft, sometimes that help people with ld game issues)
4: are you steam installed/running as admin? is the game installed/running as admin?
5: if using win10, try compatability mode or try alter desktop resolution in game shortcut properties, is your windows 10 updated,
6: have you disabled all graphcis control center options for the game specific ( go and find the game shortcut specific in your graphics control cener, and set it to default game controlled/3d-application controlled, so your graphics control center doesnt force any settings it might not like)
7: tried using the "old" fixes for windoes 7, such as no intro, tweaking the .ini files, resolution, forcing a specific dx version?,
8: have tried all the ingame gameplay/graphics options, such as remeber to click controller off, if using K+M?P, did you remember to NOT alter key bindings? Vertical sync on/off?, "expanded" FOV on/off?,, try to disable display button prompts, dialogue, hint texts such

some get their issues fixued, others dont,
there is definitely something wrong with this port, since not only are all teh original bugs and issues there, but some new ones too,
also, dont use quick save, seem to have a chance to crash game more often than normal manual save, some are theorizing its because of a set limited save file size, but since save files seem to alter/get bigger in size it might not be teh cause

hope you get it fixed, and that 2k will actually patch it this time, i cant really remember more things right now, its way early/late in teh morning and my brain isnt quite up to speed
best of luck

[gNuff!~©~gNom3™]

Originally posted by MP ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐:

use telikinesis to gather & stack together 4-5 gas bottles near to one of the holes in the wall that they take little sisters too, when the daddy is next to them shoot the gas bottles or use telikinesis to launch another gas bottle or splody drum into the pile....ez

ofc ofc! thx, doesnt get much more cheese than that i suppose
if only i had thought of that before bying upgrades on Medical spending all teh ADAM lol
(aand ofc just found out its a free plasmid you pic up in Medical if one ofc could bother to open and use ones eyes, DOOOH )
(so much for being "thorough")

[Barsik_The_CaT]

Honestly, I find both types of big daddies really strong. On normal difficulty with all health upgrades + full little sister research they still manage to take 1/4 of my health per hit/shot. My tactic was heat-seeking missles + incinerate. Drill daddies are pretty easy to avoid, just try to stay away from their stunning roar. Rivet gun ones are a bit tougher - very accurate and tough. You could just find a decent open space and run around (he'll never hit you then) while shooting with armor piercing ammo or heat seeking missles.

[gNuff!~©~gNom3™]

Originally posted by Barsik_The_CaT:

Honestly, I find both types of big daddies really strong. On normal difficulty with all health upgrades + full little sister research they still manage to take 1/4 of my health per hit/shot. My tactic was heat-seeking missles + incinerate. Drill daddies are pretty easy to avoid, just try to stay away from their stunning roar. Rivet gun ones are a bit tougher - very accurate and tough. You could just find a decent open space and run around (he'll never hit you then) while shooting with armor piercing ammo or heat seeking missles.

trust me, on survivor he hits u ;) got such perfect aim with 2 speed upgrades he still hits me and takes my health down in 1 go unless im hiding behind an obstacle and step out/back to shoot, then he just relocates to get a better angle and toss some mines ;) (and he still manages to hit too some times )
yea Bouncer (drill) daddys are easy enough, because you can exploit that they are melee, sadly, mostly Rosies(gun) so far after the first Daddy
but gonna try stacking explosive barrels now that i FOUND telekinesis, cant believe i left a free plasmid lying behind in Medical... such an idiot lol (so much for being "thorough")

[(MP) Bud Tendy]

Telekinesis is so useful, you can pick up & drop objects & it doesnt cost eve only costs eve when you throw, cant remember the drop key (hardly played this on pc but played 8-9 play throughs on the egg box back in the day) switching to weapons will also drop.
Another great use for telekinesis is to pick up bodys & use them as shields against gun fire.
Later in the game its great for catching rockets & grenades & either throwing back to sender or throwing at other enemys.
Pro tip.
Later when you get camera remember to use it & max out research on everything & dont miss the houdini splicer.

[Pweeen]

Originally posted by ღFailureB.Vaღ:

Another good tactic is to bend over, and let them have their way with you. They'll get bored eventually. You will be sore in the morning, though.

lol

[J.Freeman, Saver of humens]

Try waiting until you get the research camera, security command, and grenade launcher before fighting the ones in port Neptune. It makes it far easier.