Argentavis is the most OP thing ever.

[sleepy]

If players know how to use it well, it can destroy everyone in a game. If you don't have a gun to defend yourself you are helpless.

You can't dodge it easily, EVEN ON A DINOSAUR. Running/jumping are useless.

This ♥♥♥♥ needs to be nerfed. Hopefully the devs at least consider this idea. The community needs it!

[Pen15]

Argens are easy to kill...not sure what youre talking about

[Bevington]

on a dinosaur, have a bunch of wood or rocks in the tame's inventory to quickly swap to yours. That will make the argent grab you, but not be able to fly away. If you have a good tame, the argent dies right then. Otherwise, if you look into the grappling hooks and shotguns

[mistercrime]

Originally posted by Bevington:

on a dinosaur, have a bunch of wood or rocks in the tame's inventory to quickly swap to yours. That will make the argent grab you, but not be able to fly away. If you have a good tame, the argent dies right then. Otherwise, if you look into the grappling hooks and shotguns

Yep, one of my mates yesterday solo destroyed 4 whistled argys with bow. Nothing else you need if you know what you're doing.

[SonnyDreamx3]

Getting really annoyed by ppl like u , you have no experince in this game still complaining about thing because u are just bad , there are so many ways to counter the argent strat , that there is no need to nerf them , l2p pls befor talking. Cause your other threads are al the same complaining about things because u suck in this game. Learn to play instead of complaing ;)

[KartDude]

Agreed, there are several ways to counter the Argent, no need at all the nerf it. Just make sure you look up in the sky and around you at all times. That's already like 90% to counter it.

[Grelouk / Eleganthriel]

You don't run from an argentavis. Craft a pistol and shoot them down.

However you have to shoot first, if they aggro on you first it's hard to survive.

[Wilson Wilson]

To the people who think there is a way to counter argi i will say ONLY IN 4V4.
The argentavis tame so easily and so fast that you can make a pack of them and start roaming the map by the time an experienced player has maybe chitin and crossbow. There is nothing he can do, not hiding, not fighting, not dodging. The damage is high, the tanking irrelevant by the easy big number you can allow yourself to tame, the hitbox bugged, and ONE kill and it is game over all around the map.

I'm in position to talk about that because I have over 150 wins with this strat. If you think guns can counter argis, then the guy taming argis has been very slow and did it wrong.

Solution : add at the very least one bite for the taming, better to add 2. Volcano is a dangerous place to stick around and tame, the longer you have to stay the riskier it is. And people would have time to get something decent once you're done taming them.

Another good suggestion would be to counter being picked up by shielding.

[RockN]

Look at this video to see how the grappling hook can help you to counter argys https://www.reddit.com/r/playark/comments/4it01y/sotf_the_power_of_the_grappling_hook/

[SonnyDreamx3]

Originally posted by Wilson Wilson:

To the people who think there is a way to counter argi i will say ONLY IN 4V4.
The argentavis tame so easily and so fast that you can make a pack of them and start roaming the map by the time an experienced player has maybe chitin and crossbow. There is nothing he can do, not hiding, not fighting, not dodging. The damage is high, the tanking irrelevant by the easy big number you can allow yourself to tame, the hitbox bugged, and ONE kill and it is game over all around the map.

I'm in position to talk about that because I have over 150 wins with this strat. If you think guns can counter argis, then the guy taming argis has been very slow and did it wrong.

Solution : add at the very least one bite for the taming, better to add 2. Volcano is a dangerous place to stick around and tame, the longer you have to stay the riskier it is. And people would have time to get something decent once you're done taming them.

Another good suggestion would be to counter being picked up by shielding.

I do not agree with that , and we know eachother.
Its true the taming on argies are pretty OP same as for Sabers 1-2 bite for mid lvl 3 bites for an high lvl argent or saber.
But u know where ppl are taming these dinos so, if u count that in your strat u have enough time to counter it easlie, xbow with grabbling hook , tranq arrows, Rexe , or early pistols.
There are enough tools to handle them , but only the skilled ppl can do it.

So the only nerf should be on taming time thats it.
Or what wilson said: Blocking the grab with shields.

[Tango-Osmo]

Get +300 weight and you don't have to worry that they'll crab you :)

[Wilson Wilson]

You don't even have to grab, you just fly to someone hit him and kill him within seconds.
Early pistols come 5 minutes after a pack of argis tame. Grappling hook won't do ♥♥♥♥ but get you killed, rex can't do ♥♥♥♥ cause you pick people up from the saddle.

I've timed everything that can be done as fast as possible, and there's no counter but acid rain and megacold to delay the tame.

[SonnyDreamx3]

Dude u can make pistols , grabbling and rexes at the same time , there are counters , we done it like a million time , maybe not agains u but agains other good players, my opinion is that the only thing need to be nerfed is the taming rate on argent and sabers

[Wilson Wilson]

I think you got it all wrong, they are complaining about people using argi strat => meaning they tame argis and then they sweep the map for kills. Nothing compared to people taming rexes, teching, AND getting couple argis with that.

There are people out there that rush argis pack, it takes 5 to 10 minutes, and once they go on the hunt, you will most likely farming metal, if you're very experienced you might have a gun, and it doesnt even guarantee you will survive, I will show you a part of a video for you to understand what i'm talking about :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DUl9eRuPdU look at 9:26, and think that I got this under 15 minutes, and killed Lucsy and Wormy who had rex + spino and guns in a matter of SECONDS (just attacked the rex/spino and they died very quickly).

[Mr Dolphin]

I understand your frustration, however keep in mind that there are ways to counter it, While i do agree their damage scaling is too high. Currently there are three proper ways to counter Argi.
1: Weight yourself ( 320+ weight, just give yourself 250 or more when you know an argi is around 2" Grappling Hook
3: Pistol/ shotgun

You can choose either of those three, i prefer the grappling hook since is cheap, easy to make .
Here an example of Grappling Hook.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw6d30mlxrE

[DEPORTWEEBS]

Search the word "argent" on these forums and have a good laugh. Someone will always complain and then many people who play bob games come out and say "there is a counter omg stop being a bob".

I agree with Wilson Wilson and as someone who used Argents very often, they need to be rebalanced. Ask any top player "What strat is almost a def win?" - ARGENTS.

If nothing is done to them I think they should spawn all over the map so everyone can have one. Air battles would be fun :)

To anyone saying counter please come play the 1700+ FFA lobbies for a day or two, then tell me what you think.