Rosa Did Nothing Wrong

[Perskan]

Change my mind

[『Emillian』]

she did everything wrong~

[Perskan]

examples please

[Perskan]

im waiting

[Battler Ushiromiya]

Let's start with the blatant child abuse and go from there

[Perskan]

is that all ?

[Perskan]

Eva is far worst

[Ellixer]

Rosa's my favourite adult but she's not a great person.

I'm not going to compare whose child abuse is worse (you can argue Eva tried to be good at first and grief on both parties ruined the relationship in the long run, or you can argue Maria's a much more difficult to deal with child in the 20th century and you're a single mother), but one person's wrongdoing does not mitigate Rosa's own errors. That was ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up. One person being a serial killer or another person being an arguably worse child abuser does not suddenly make child abuse okay.

She collaborated with the culprit in Episode 2, almost certainly knowing they were killing people for real, motivated by money. Even if you say the parents deserve it for doing what they did to Rosa, three minors and five (far as she knows) servants died. This is the very same episode she accused everyone around her, dead or alive, of killing or aiding the killer for money, by the way, and the most charitable thing you can point out is that she was lying the entire time.

[『Emillian』]

Originally posted by Perskan:

Eva is far worst

Eva is literally the standard asian mom (if not milder than most of them) and she never abused George the way Rosa did with literally her young autistic daughter.
Imagine comparing an overprotective mother with an unstable monster that even the child support lady got scared of. (this is the moral part)
And don t get me started on other parts (Ellixer said it better in the previous comment)

[Ellixer]

Perskan probably meant Eva to Ange. Eva to George wasn't, great, but most definately not worse than Rosa to Ange. Eva to Ange we only hear from Ange after the fact so it's hard to judge how bad it got, but I gather it's bad.

Again though, having someone who is worse than you does not make you good. Even IF Eva was a more abusive mom or adoptive mom (which I personally don't think she is), that doesn't suddenly make Rosa not abusive as well.

[Perskan]

Rosa dont deserve so much hate from Umineko fandom

[Perskan]

Rosa was abused by her siblings in her childhood. Mostly by Eva. Rosa is a good mother she has flaws and she isnt perfect. But the way fandom threat her is just disgusting.

[Perskan]

Also lets not forget what Eva did to Natsuhi

[『Emillian』]

Originally posted by Perskan:

Rosa was abused by her siblings in her childhood. Mostly by Eva. Rosa is a good mother she has flaws and she isnt perfect. But the way fandom threat her is just disgusting.

sry dude but I don t think someone will take you seriously when your ability to debate is as good as Rosa's ability to be a good mother

[Perskan]

In umineko manga ep8 it is show that eva abused Rosa when she was younger.
Also in ep3 durning family conference she called her brainless moron and told her to die.
So i dont't know what the is your problem. You just hate rosa that all. You havent made single argument. It clearly shown that Rosa loves Maria but she has problems and they need help. You are typical Umineko fan. when someone has diffrent opinion you think they are trolling.

[Perskan]

Eva is FAR worst then Rosa because.

1.She abused rosa when she was young (So she did the exact same thing rosa is doing now to maria and people dont have problem with that)
2. She probably abused rudolf when he was young
3. She make george study pointless ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ just so he can become next family head because that all she wanted.
4.She abused Natsuhi in ep1 and in ep5 she was beating her for something she didn't do
5. All she cared about more then anything was money
6. She abused ange. Send her to some private school, Didn't tell her what happend on Rokkejima on that day.

And what did rosa did?

1. Hit maria in cheek sometimes
2. Left maria alone for max 3 or 4 days
3.Destroy her plush toy

Like i said Rosa isnt perfect but she dosen't deserve so much hate. Rosa is like this because of her siblings, Her father who was a pervert who raped his own daughter, Her boyfriend who was maria father and left her before Maria was even born. Rosa had ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up life so no wonder she is like this.