Twilight Struggle

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jonbrave Aug 14, 2023 @ 3:16am
Brezhnev Doctrine not having effect?
Hi. Noob, second game against AI, probably misunderstanding rules.

As SU i have played Brezhnev Doctrine. "All further Ops cards played by SU increase Ops value by one, max 4." It is showing as a "current effect" on the SU side. No other current effects cards are significant for this.

When I now play, say, Junta for Play Influence, which is a 2 card, I am expecting it to invite me to place 3 influence for the Brezhnev +1. But the prompt remains on Place 2 influence and that's all I get. Testing other cards played for Influence I see the same, no +1. Why is this, please?
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Benkyo Aug 14, 2023 @ 3:29am 
You should get 3, but no else has ever encountered getting too few OPs, so there must be something else going on.

It's been a while since I even looked at the UI, is it possible you get the 3rd after the first 2 are placed?

Otherwise, Purge must be in effect, reducing your OPs by 1.
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jonbrave Aug 14, 2023 @ 4:24am 
@Benkyo
Thank you for replying so promptly.

It's the next turn now, so I cannot go back check. I did try test-playing-out the Influences (and then Undo) and even for those I did play as Influences I never seemed to get any extra +1. I was disappointed! :steamsad: Purge was not in play, and I checked other effects showing and none reduced Ops. What can I say? But I accept I am a beginner, and you say it's not broken, so I'll have to lump it.

I don't know if it makes any difference, but I am playing this game with USSR having a "+1" on the "game balance" when you start the game, to help out while I learn. I didn't quite understand what that does, is it relevant here?
Benkyo Aug 14, 2023 @ 5:20am 
That just means you get one more initial influence to place during set up, and has no effect during play.

You can still check the tabs at the bottom of the screen to see if Brezhnev Doctrine was actually played for the event, or for OPs.
Benkyo Aug 14, 2023 @ 5:27am 
Oh, don't forget that OPs are only worth 1 influence if the country isn't controlled by your opponent. If your opponent controls the country, it's 2 OPs for 1 influence.
jonbrave Aug 14, 2023 @ 5:30am 
Indeed it shows on the history log. And shows I played it as Headline, 'coz I thought it would be good to get +1 all through the turn. And log shows "Brezhnev Doctrine is now in play" for that turn, and it wasn't cancelled. Headline event is for whole coming turn, isn't it? (There isn't a bug for playing it as Headline is there?) Plus I saw its icon under SU for whole turn. Which is why I was most disappointed I didn't get any bonuses!

I see it's a MidGame card. Next time I play, is there any (simple) cheaty way to give myself that card at the start to test?
jonbrave Aug 14, 2023 @ 5:58am 
Originally posted by Benkyo:
Oh, don't forget that OPs are only worth 1 influence if the country isn't controlled by your opponent. If your opponent controls the country, it's 2 OPs for 1 influence.

Yep, I am aware of that, thanks. In any case I was playing what Ops I had not into opponent-controlled.
This is probably just a visual bug. When you play a card for Influence, it shows the base value regardless of OPs modifiers, but it will update after you place your first Influence. So in your example, if you played Junta for Influence, you would see "Place 2 Influence", then if you play 1 Influence into an uncontrolled country, it would update to still show "Place 2 Influence", then you can play 2 more OPs worth of Influence.
jonbrave Aug 15, 2023 @ 10:16am 
You may be right, but I believe I counted and I simply was not getting the promised increase. However, until I can repeat it in a future game there seems no more to say.

I asked whether it might be possible to have a "cheat" means to allocate myself that mid-game card from the start? But from Googling I didn't see there is a way to do this?
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