Twilight Struggle

Twilight Struggle

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Xenos Apr 14, 2016 @ 9:45am
How's single player?
I like strategy games, I like the Cold War theme, but I don't think I will be able to play multiplayer. At this price tag, would you say the game is worth it for single player only?
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Deanolium-115 Apr 14, 2016 @ 10:34am 
I would think so - but I am a huge fan of the boardgame. Really, it depends on how the AI improves. Right now, it does play the game and will do obvious opportunities to win. However, it's still lacking in some areas so you will be able to beat it relatively easily once you've got the strategy down. However, PlayDeck have said the AI will improve as they're using games as basically training for the AI (similar to Google's Go AI, but obviously less sophisticated).

That said, multiplayer on this is pretty good. I barely play mutliplayer on games, and I've enjoyed doing so on here. Mainly because you can play it pretty asynchronously so just pick up in your own time (with 45 days setting) tbh.
Turbine2k5 Apr 14, 2016 @ 11:26am 
It's great for single player. I feel like now is the best time for you to pick it up, considering the AI is at its weakest.

And FYI, multiplayer is turn-based, and you can start games up to 45 days per side, so unless you're too busy to finish a game in 3 months... :P
Xenos Apr 14, 2016 @ 11:45am 
Originally posted by Turbine2k5:
It's great for single player. I feel like now is the best time for you to pick it up, considering the AI is at its weakest.

And FYI, multiplayer is turn-based, and you can start games up to 45 days per side, so unless you're too busy to finish a game in 3 months... :P

It's not like I'm too busy, it's more that I don't have any friend interested in strategy games:)
Turbine2k5 Apr 14, 2016 @ 11:46am 
Originally posted by Xenos:
Originally posted by Turbine2k5:
It's great for single player. I feel like now is the best time for you to pick it up, considering the AI is at its weakest.

And FYI, multiplayer is turn-based, and you can start games up to 45 days per side, so unless you're too busy to finish a game in 3 months... :P

It's not like I'm too busy, it's more that I don't have any friend interested in strategy games:)
Luckily for you there's an online lobby, too.
Xenos Apr 14, 2016 @ 11:48am 
Originally posted by Turbine2k5:
Originally posted by Xenos:

It's not like I'm too busy, it's more that I don't have any friend interested in strategy games:)
Luckily for you there's an online lobby, too.

Well, sold:)
Sebmono Apr 15, 2016 @ 7:29am 
To follow on with these other comments, the Single Player AI is competent but definitely weak compared to someone who's played the game more than a half dozen times. Totally worth it for you to learn and go up against the AI in its current state.
Benkyo Apr 16, 2016 @ 12:40am 
Do not buy this for the single-player game. It is useful as a tool to learn how to play, and to learn how the cards interact, but once you get the hang of it the AI is no challenge at all. It makes consistently really bad moves, especially when it is losing.
I think people who expect the AI to "learn" to play better are under-estimating the difficulty of creating a competent AI opponent.
RotorHed Apr 16, 2016 @ 1:08am 
Yes the AI for something like TS is going to be tricky - then again a lot of humans will lose just as easily by poor card play and this forum is already testament to that (as was the beta phase).

However, PlayDek have chosen to use an AI pattern matching approach rather than a purely deterministic algorithm. The AI supposedly searches through its database of games to find situations and predict the outcome - as more games are logged by human players, they'll be added to the DB and the AI will get to search through more examples and hopefully improve it's performance.

Given the AI is entirely offline right now, I imagine one must wait for subsequent patches to see this change.
DukeOfLight Apr 16, 2016 @ 2:03am 
i can say that is decent for new players
VR Stufffs Apr 16, 2016 @ 4:35am 
Probably not, the user interface is pretty shoddy at the moment.
Abby May 31, 2016 @ 12:07pm 
If you're a casual player, the AI is absurdly strong even on easy and won't even let you make it to Mid War. If you play it as a lifestyle game, apparently even the hardest AI is way too easy, according to others.

I haven't seen any sort of inbetween. It sucks.
Twelvefield Jun 1, 2016 @ 1:16pm 
If the AI gets to choose between games that we players will have logged, it will have some effort to chew through the dozens of variations of human suicide that I have provided.

Single player is okay. It's not super, but it isn't infantile, either. Just strange at times, and sometimes buggy. It's a foundation for a better AI in the future, I hope. Given the game's price point and development history, it's acceptable.
Darth Warez Jun 1, 2016 @ 10:13pm 
AI extremely stupid so playing for USSR is auto win on turn 3.
But playing for USA is pain bacause AI also extremely cheating on coup rolls. He usially never fail coups.
Developers used really bad method to make illusion of challenge with rigging coups.
Last edited by Darth Warez; Jun 1, 2016 @ 10:39pm
EarthBowser Jun 2, 2016 @ 11:57pm 
Originally posted by Aidan:
Probably not, the user interface is pretty shoddy at the moment.
I actually thought the interface was pretty well done. What don't you like about it?
Darth Warez Jun 3, 2016 @ 6:35am 
Originally posted by BockBockChicken:
Yeah don't spread misinformation.
Dont spread your belief in fair AI while impossible to play with it because US stupid and USSR cheating like hell.
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