Who owns the Turok IP now?

[PixelPerfect]

Just out of curiosity, who owns the Turok IP currently?

I'm asking this because the last "new" Turok game we had was the horrible reboot from 2008. That game was made by Propaganda Games. And that was a subsidiary studio of Disney Interactive Studios (of course that's Walt Disney). However, Propaganda Games was closed in 2011. And ever since that failure from 2008 we've never seen another Turok game again.

Now I'm wondering, is Disney still the owner of the Turok IP? Or was it bought lately from another company and I'm just not aware of it?

I would love another properly-made actual Turok game coming out on a modern engine like Frostbite, CryEngine or UE4. Imagine the same type of environments from T1 and/or T2, dense jungles, primitive village in high treetops, catacombs filled with traps, mystical zones accessed by randomly-spawning portals. I would love to experience all of that again with a modern take on it.

[Kaizen]

Sift through this if you want, I'm on ambien right now so just typing this post was difficult as hell

http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=76435306&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch

[Antroid]

I think that a proper reboot of the Turok series could be amazing if done right. IF DONE RIGHT. Chances of that are pretty slim unless it's a miracle. Even franchises that never really "died" don't get very acclaimed sequels these days...

But hey. If they embrace the 90-s insanity of Turok... Dinosaurs, robots, undead, aliens, magic, sci-fi, time travel (of sorts), the magical Lost Land (Galyanna)... The Council of Voices... Amazing guns, violence, spectacular effects and locales... All that stuff. Just ditch all the confusing and stupid story development of the actual comics and games (the games are great but what they did to the comics isn't), take the premise and try again... With a properly arcadey shooter with intense action and interesting objectives and sprawling enough levels... Such a game could get a lot of completely new people into the franchise. People love the 90-s action stuff.

[Kaizen]

therealantroid の投稿を引用：

I think that a proper reboot of the Turok series could be amazing if done right. IF DONE RIGHT. Chances of that are pretty slim unless it's a miracle. Even franchises that never really "died" don't get very acclaimed sequels these days...

But hey. If they embrace the 90-s insanity of Turok... Dinosaurs, robots, undead, aliens, magic, sci-fi, time travel (of sorts), the magical Lost Land (Galyanna)... The Council of Voices... Amazing guns, violence, spectacular effects and locales... All that stuff. Just ditch all the confusing and stupid story development of the actual comics and games (the games are great but what they did to the comics isn't), take the premise and try again... With a properly arcadey shooter with intense action and interesting objectives and sprawling enough levels... Such a game could get a lot of completely new people into the franchise. People love the 90-s action stuff.

Nah, just leave Turok in a good place (beings you ignore the latest attempt years ago)

Even Doom is going to be complete trash, everything rebooted today is garbage and doesn't do justice to games that are 2 decades old.

Again, Doom. Look at Doom 2016 and run your facepalm stash dry.
What a joke, we don't need that to happen to Turok... again

[Crow]

Whoever owns it, I'll fight them for it.

[operativelm]

Turok as an intellectual property is currently owned by DreamWorks animation (who got it when they bought out Classic Media who got it when they bought out Random House, etc.), but various companies can acquire licenses for aspects of it (i am really bad at explaining legal things); for example, Dynamite Entertainment currently has the comic license.

And I think Valiant currently has a trademark on the term "Dinosaur Hunter," just fyi.

[Sire]

Gameo の投稿を引用：

Nah, just leave Turok in a good place (beings you ignore the latest attempt years ago)

What good does it do anyone to never have another attempt at Turok? I understand that it might be a disappointment and not live up to the first two games (everything after was trash) but I really wouldn't mind more Turok good or bad. It's not like another bad Turok game will make the previous stuff worse.

I mean, look at the Alien series, that franchise has been drug through the mud for decades with small instances of brilliance (AvP2, the game, not film) and then we got Alien: Isolation, the greatest thing to happen to the whole franchise right behind the first film and argueably one of the best horror game in existance.

[Kaizen]

Sire の投稿を引用：

Gameo の投稿を引用：

Nah, just leave Turok in a good place (beings you ignore the latest attempt years ago)

What good does it do anyone to never have another attempt at Turok? I understand that it might be a disappointment and not live up to the first two games (everything after was trash) but I really wouldn't mind more Turok good or bad. It's not like another bad Turok game will make the previous stuff worse.

I mean, look at the Alien series, that franchise has been drug through the mud for decades with small instances of brilliance (AvP2, the game, not film) and then we got Alien: Isolation, the greatest thing to happen to the whole franchise right behind the first film and argueably one of the best horror game in existance.

Because I'd much rather games just die off and let money grubbing companies create a new IP to drag through the mud.
Everyone knows no new Turok would be justified, modernization would just ruin it, look what happened to 08.
Do you want a repeat of 08?... I don't, I don't even want to get my hopes up and interested in the name Turok when I know it's not ever going to be Turok.

It will just be another reskin of the complete garbage we get today with dino paint this time

[Sire]

That's some terrible logic and strange that a fan of a series would like it to die of because it's had a few bad hurdles. It's not like anything scared is getting ruined, the old games will still exist, and a series that only has 5 games (Rage Wars was simple multiplayer cash-in) in which only two are any good can't really be sullied.

Turok isn't big enough to have a giant fanbase of curmudgeons screaming humbug when someone wants to try again.

[Kaizen]

Not because it 'had' some hurdles.
Because it will have them again and I don't want Call of Turok and you can bet your ass that's what it would be, because that's all that sells nowadays.
The same garbage over and over in some different skin.

If someone would make a Real Turok game, following Turok's old-school formula to the T, then sure, I'd love it, that isn't gonna happen and you know it

[Antroid]

I would enjoy even a slightly modernized Turok game, if it kept the craziness and variety of the originals. Kinda like Serious Sam 3 was a slightly modernized take on the first one (more or less) and it was the best gosh-darn game in the series. Games like SS3, Wolfenstein the new order, heck, even Doom 3 back in the day are proof positive that old franchises can very much go on living.

...Actually, CroTeam probably would've made an amazing new Turok if they so wished (and had the rights to). Though I'd rather they keep doing sams.

Nobody's forcing you to buy and play every new game if they aren't to your liking. It makes no sense to deny others what they'd want.

Also I'm a fan of Doom since the SNES port and I'm very much looking forward to the new one. I only have minor issues with what we've been shown of it.

[Gamerscape]

therealantroid の投稿を引用：

I think that a proper reboot of the Turok series could be amazing if done right. IF DONE RIGHT.

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We don't need another Turok 2008. The People who made that game, clarely have no idea what Turok is beside the fact that he is a native american who kills dinosaurs. I mean for god sake, the turok in 2008 actual name IS TUROK! For anyone who actually look at Turok's lore will understand that Turok is a title. Not a damn name. The Turok in Dinosaur hunter actual name is Tal'set. It's just your typical shooter to bring in the call of duty fans. That's it. Just like Duke Nukem tried bring in the call of duty fan.

I can go on and on how much I hate Turok 2008 or How Call of duty ruined the fps in gerneral. but if we're going to make a Turok Game... 1. Begin what Turok 3 left off. 2. I want Turok to be at good hands. Someone who actually cares for it, and doesn't milk it for every cent it's worth. Hell, if Night drive can actually get the Ip and make new Turok games with it, I'll be happy.

[Kaizen]

therealantroid の投稿を引用：

I would enjoy even a slightly modernized Turok game, if it kept the craziness and variety of the originals. Kinda like Serious Sam 3 was a slightly modernized take on the first one (more or less) and it was the best gosh-darn game in the series. Games like SS3, Wolfenstein the new order, heck, even Doom 3 back in the day are proof positive that old franchises can very much go on living.

...Actually, CroTeam probably would've made an amazing new Turok if they so wished (and had the rights to). Though I'd rather they keep doing sams.

Nobody's forcing you to buy and play every new game if they aren't to your liking. It makes no sense to deny others what they'd want.

Also I'm a fan of Doom since the SNES port and I'm very much looking forward to the new one. I only have minor issues with what we've been shown of it.

Tell that crap to Duke, Shadow Warrior, DMC, Tomb Raider, Doom, and every other game that has been butchered so they can sell a well-established name to ignorant children.

If they can't do the games justice, lust leave them alone and make a new game and quit trying to cash in on the old ones.

(even though SW was somewhat enjoyable, it just wasn't SW)

[Antroid]

Gameo の投稿を引用：

Tell that crap to Duke, Shadow Warrior, DMC, Tomb Raider, Doom, and every other game that has been butchered so they can sell a well-established name to ignorant children.

Tomb Raider was quite well-received all across the board. Duke doesn't count, his failure of a game isn't recent or a reboot. I liked the new DMC and I'm liking what I see of the new Doom. Can't speak for Shadow Warrior - haven't played a single one of them.

The point is, hypothetically, if there was a choice between not making ANY games, or making a game that would appeal only to a portion of gamers, it shouldn't even be a choice. You aren't interested in such new games, fine, ignore them. But many people might like them, so maybe take your elitism and egoism and stuff it? Just because you won't get something you wanted, doesn't mean nobody else should.

I'm all for nostalgia and good old more hardcore game series (heck, most of my favorite games are old) but you're being irrationally protective for no reason. Literally no good reason.

Thevaultdwellinggamer の投稿を引用：

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We don't need another Turok 2008.

Way to overreact without comprehending my post.

Just because one reboot failed doesn't mean a good reboot can not exist. Sure Turok 2008 was kind of a travesty. But continuing where Turok 3 left off is an absolutely terrible idea. These games' "lore" was a total mess, as was the comics'. A complete and utter mess. The setting is great, the ideas are great, the potential is great, but they did NOT tell good, cohesive stories in that setting, did not utilize the ideas' potential to the fullest. Refusing to let this baggage of old mistakes go would do no good to the series.

"Reboot" doesn't mean a completely different look at what "Turok" is. I was quite clear in my initial comment, in fact. A reboot can very much be done in the spirit of the original games, the same style, the same setting. But the burden of the hilariously obtuse lore should not weigh down a hypothetical new game. Nowadays this lore isn't even easy to learn - I had to struggle to find a torrent of the acclaim comics and I still can't find several issues anywhere (specifically, the seeds of evil tie-in and the online exclusive comic about how Tal'Set screwed up with the chronoscepter).

What I meant is taking the original 3 games, but sorta pretending none of that happened and completely discarding the comics' storylines. Introduce people to the characters, the world and everything all over again and start anew from the same basis. The world would be the same, the premise would be the same, the GAMEPLAY would be the same, and the story would be of the same kind. That would also be a reboot, and the kind of reboot I meant.

[Kaizen]

Plenty good reason, in fact.
You get burned you learn to be cautious of the fire.
You keep getting burned and it's your own fault.

And you're the same guy who created the 'preserve Turok' thread aren't you?
Yep. Thought so

[Antroid]

Gameo の投稿を引用：

Plenty good reason, in fact.
You get burned you learn to be cautious of the fire.
You keep getting burned and it's your own fault.

That is a reason for you personally not to buy a new game. Not for a developer to not make a new game. Just because some products turn out ♥♥♥♥ doesn't mean people should just give up making them at all, that's just unreasonable.