Hate for the Ag Center

[Chaemira]

Hey all, have gotten to the Ag Center for the first time; last few go's I've went Highpool and I really do like that place over the Ag Center. I am not a big fan of rose so far and except for the former ranger in the beginning I don't like the others I find there either. Is there a reason to take Ag instead of Highpool? Is it better story wise or just a choice the player makes that does little one way or the other?

[Gillsing]

I think it might give better rewards? But I'd say the biggest reason to choose either is the NPC recruit you get. So if you don't like Rose, maybe it's not for you? Though it seems kind of boring to always make the same choices rather than change things up a bit to experience different things.

[Chaemira]

I don't mind experiencing new bits of story, it's why i tend to restart and go through again if there are multiple paths you can take in regard to choices. I just didn't like Ag Center all that much, and Rose has yet to grow on me, but I plan to keep going through. I am looking forward to seeing the prison which is apparently my next stop.

[Zeon08]

Originally posted by Dark:

I don't mind experiencing new bits of story, it's why i tend to restart and go through again if there are multiple paths you can take in regard to choices. I just didn't like Ag Center all that much, and Rose has yet to grow on me, but I plan to keep going through. I am looking forward to seeing the prison which is apparently my next stop.

Rose has better stats. VC is not that good, so just from practicality AG is better. Also Rose has some connections to Darvin village. And has a small surprise for you at the final battle.

[Chaemira]

Originally posted by Zeon08:

Originally posted by Dark:

I don't mind experiencing new bits of story, it's why i tend to restart and go through again if there are multiple paths you can take in regard to choices. I just didn't like Ag Center all that much, and Rose has yet to grow on me, but I plan to keep going through. I am looking forward to seeing the prison which is apparently my next stop.

Rose has better stats. VC is not that good, so just from practicality AG is better. Also Rose has some connections to Darvin village. And has a small surprise for you at the final battle.

Thanks zeon for the response, so yeah keeping rose but changing up my team as I am really liking the smg/brawl combo on my lead with my scout providing mid range support (AR+lock/cracking) and my sniper going with demo support and toaster repair

[SnapSlav]

Basically there are a LOT more rewards associated with saving AC than saving HP. There are achievements that can only be obtained by saving AC, the Recruit is strictly superior in terms of stats (on paper), and you get important story interactions with Rose that you won't get with VC.

If you don't like Rose because of her personality, well... nothing you can really do about that. I'd just say that she's WAY more preferable to some of your other options later on. XD

[Groogo]

Minor spoilers:





I like Highpool but the recruit you get there talks like a Hollywood Indian, not a Native American. I'm surprised that I can't purchase cigars from her out in front of the drug store. AG Center is a Doctor character, Highpool a Marksman/Animal tamer character.


There is a spoiler for the VC character but I'm going to leave that one alone here.

[Pastor Dick]

First time playing the game. Went Ag Center. Fell in love with this game.

I'm getting seriously strong FO vibes (for obvious reasons)

[ÄmJii]

Highpool is just so much faster and easier to clear out. Did AG Center once, got sick of it, went to Highpool and haven't looked back since then.

Besides, I usually make 10 INT skill monkey as my default ranger, so there goes the biggest pro-AG reason out the window.

[megapat2]

I like the Ag center, love the gorilla suit always put on my leader. he kinda stinks in battles at least this way he is fun.

[Mercer Skye]

Ag Center isn't as painful if you know a trick for the underground area. By default, you gotta do a lot of 'shell game' with your rangers to vent the toxins, which I personally found beyond aggravating the first play through I finished. When you first get into the underground, on the computer, type in- LOAD "urabutln", 8, 1 -(Copy from dash to dash), it'll 'auto solve' the ventilation puzzle

[Rad-Icarus]

Doing my first playthrough at AG center on Ranger - it was basically a learning experience that I went back and undid to take on Highpool instead.

One of my core rangers died almost immediately, I hadn't trained a surgeon yet...lol.
By the time I got through almost everything and was about to fight the "boss" I was worn down, one ranger missing, no heals, low on ammo, under-levelled and he pretty much just wasted us in about 2 rounds.

I can see that being a good playthrough for normal or rookie, or for a second time through on higher difficulty with a well tweaked squad...but man I had no idea.

Taking what I learned in AG, I reverted to an earlier save and went for Highpool. Cleared it pretty easily.

[megapat2]

end boss for ag center I let him eat a law rocket 1 shot the entire room. Rose was mad I didn't talk to him though but was way more fun then letting him shoot 4 times a round.

[Gillsing]

I shot him with a Sabot Rocket, after letting him shoot my heavy armor Ranger four times. Didn't hurt much with Armor 7 from Thick-Skinned, Hardened and a Steel Plate Armor from Rail Nomads Camp.

And that's the power that comes from the knowledge that one can avoid triggering the distress calls and head for Rail Nomads Camp instead of Ag Center and Highpool. I can see how playing the game for the first time and going for Ag Center would be very likely to end in a disaster.

[Ommamar]

I never played this game when it was released but saw it on sale so it has been sitting in my game library. When I saw that Wasteland 3 is set to be released I decided to play it to get in the vibe for that game. Here has been my take on things so far my first test squad just to see how the skill system work had headed for Ag center but then got a distress call for Highpool so I went there. Once there of course the distress call from AG center came through but I continued on with Highpool. It was fairly easy to clear with plenty of ammo and med gear obtained, some of the quests took me a bit to figure out (really your soul mate is a dog who buys you of with rocks?!) but got them done and completed. I then went to AG center which is pretty much destroyed which is when I realized you had to choose one or the other. I have no idea of the repercussions later down the quest chain but I like the idea of having to make a choice that will have an effect.

So next play through I went to the railroad headquarters place mostly to find the guy who was with Ace when he died. Then I fell into that whole quest line picking up Ralphie then passing on the drunk hobo guy. Somehow I missed the store (I have since been back and found there is one) in that area since I was low on everything I decided to go back to the ranger citadel. While traveling there I got the distress calls so decided to go to AG center this time. I started down that path then after clearing the mushroom cave I decided to see if I could make contact with Highpool to start helping with their situation. While traveling I got the Red Scorpion message saying it had fallen and was their's now. So I turned around to go back to AG center via a oasis, but I got a message that it had fallen as well. I saved at that point so I can go back to see where that path leads. Then reloaded to before I left AG center and finished that quest line. The map there really shows the problem with isometric maps in this game as I seemed to have to be zoomed way out or way in as walls and such seemed to get in the way a lot. There is probably more experience but I always seemed to be struggling to manage ammo and heal items. At one point I was stuck at a door as no one had lock pick and the 11% brute force option was no help. Luckily I found a stick of TNT in a crate so I was able to blow that door up to continue.

Overall I am liking the gritty feel of the game as it is a struggle to find enough ammo and equipment to keep going. The choice of water or food that should have a far reaching effect for everyone in the wasteland is a nice touch. The only thing I would like is if you could get more skill points as leveling seems kind of meh as it takes a couple levels to really be able to develop a build. On the other hand it does seem to make your choices count more as not having a skill like lock picking can make things way more difficult.

[erdogan.m]

My first play through. I went straight from citadel to radio tower to AG center.
No upgrades on weapons or anything. I didn't get a decent weapon upgrade through the mission either. Thankfully I had Angela on my party and Rose was a good addition because I had no surgeon also.
It took me sooooo long to get through it, so many reloads. I ended up not solving the vent puzzle, simpy walking through it. It is not a starter area at all.
I guess designers had too much fun in this area, as the lady there kept giving new missions, and then there are three more ifection missions around the world.
From AG center without dropping at the citadel I went to highpool. And I wish I fought the raiders there instead of the zombies at ag center. Would have spent less ammo and gained better drops, I think.
I prefer fighting humans in this sort of game, unfortunately the game keeps sending monsters which are just ammo and HP soaks. In every map there is a cave or tunnel or some plains where there are crocodiles that are super tough... And not fun to play against, since all they do is walk at you and bite you.
I like the game, I missed this level of party planning and specialization. Just, the tactic part is not as good as Fallout Tactics and RPG part is not as great as Fallout.