Truce Timer failed?

[rgathercoal]

I am stuck in the Wanderer's campaign. It has been ten game years and I have checked back several times and landed repeatedly on several planets and still nothing. Does this line in my save file mean I messed up? "Truce Timer="failed" Please forgive any mistakes here, i am old and crusty and rather cross about all the changes to computing since Windows 3. . .

[sergekoriakin]

You can continue the wanderer's campaign after the end of the war for the Free World. - "the main plot is completed"
You can look at the coalition, but not completely without war. Also Remnants quests can be accessed without FW war.

[Rocket Witch]

I don't know about that mission/event/timer specifically, but many missions and events will automatically fail immediately upon being triggered as part of their intended function. It looks scary when you read your save file and see a load of failed items, but in such cases 'fail' is frequently synonymous with 'resolve' or 'finish' or 'end'.

[rgathercoal]

Originally posted by sergekoriakin:

You can continue the wanderer's campaign after the end of the war for the Free World. - "the main plot is completed"
You can look at the coalition, but not completely without war. Also Remnants quests can be accessed without FW war.

Thank you for your timely response. I should have been more clear: I have completed at least some of the Coalition quests,
including the satellite retrieval from the bandits and the extensive retracing of the old exploration party through human space.
I have also (I believe) completed the human/syndicate/Pug war. At least, the Pug have gone away and everyone else is at peace.
I haven't heard from FWs after the setup of the Winter institutiion, and I think one other mission after that).
I have access to all of the Coalition and Wanderer technology (currently incl. Deep River freighters)
and have given three drives to the bad-boy Hai.
The Wanderers said (in passing) they needed to know where the suspect drives were coming from, but no missions to pursue this. This is where I suspect the Truce Timer comes in. I know there is a time delay, but I have been cavorting around the universe for ten game years now since then, have accumulated an ungodly pile of credits, a fleet including seven Uraks and twelve Deep Rivers (with lots of shields they can survive most encounters). I have spent a lot of time trying out each of the Wanderer, Remnant, and Hai worlds, and have mapped out much of the Ember Wastes, (only touching upon the Korath sector worlds, except the ones living with the Quarg.
Now I am lost at what next to do.

Here are the relevant parts of my save file (I do not know how to read the thing).

"00 Spaceport Reminder Resetter: failed" 208
"00 Spaceport Reminder Resetter: offered" 208
"Arachi Orphans: done"
"Arachi Orphans: offered"
"Archon Personality Compatibility Patch: failed"
"Archon Personality Compatibility Patch: offered"
. . .
"Ask Quarg About Coalition Early: declined"
"Ask Quarg About Coalition Early: offered"
"Ask the Hai about the Unfettered: declined"
"Ask the Hai about the Unfettered: offered"
"Assisting Merchant (Small): declined" 2
"Assisting Merchant (Small): offered" 2
"Block Hai Wormhole Warning: failed"
"Block Hai Wormhole Warning: offered"
. . .
"Coalition: Expeditions Past 10: done"
"Coalition: Expeditions Past 10: offered"
. . .
"Conversation on Sayaiban: active"
"Conversation on Sayaiban: offered"
. . .
"Deep Archaeology 4: done"
"Deep Archaeology 4: offered"
"Deep Archaeology 5: done"
"Deep Archaeology 5: offered"
. . .
"Discovered Coalition Space: failed"
"Discovered Coalition Space: offered"
"Discovered Hai Space: failed"
"Discovered Hai Space: offered"
"Discovered Korath Space: failed"
"Discovered Korath Space: offered"
"Discovered Wanderer Space: failed"
"Discovered Wanderer Space: offered"
"Discovered Wormhole Alpha: failed"
"Discovered Wormhole Alpha: offered"
. . .
"FW Katya 7C: done"
"FW Katya 7C: offered"
. . .
"FW Pug 1 Arabia: declined"
"FW Pug 1 Arabia: offered"
"FW Pug 1: done"
"FW Pug 1: offered"
. . .
"FW Pug 6: done"
"FW Pug 6: offered"
"FW Rand 1: done"
"FW Rand 1: offered"
"FW Rand 1B: done"
"FW Rand 1B: offered"
. . .
"FW Reconciliation 2C: done"
"FW Reconciliation 2C: offered"
"FW Reconciliation Break Ends: done"
"FW Reconciliation Break Ends: offered"
"FW Reconciliation Break: done"
"FW Reconciliation Break: offered"
. . .
"FW Syndicate Diplomacy 1D: done"
"FW Syndicate Diplomacy 1D: offered"
. . ..
"Fencing Star: declined"
"Fencing Star: offered"
"First Contact: Gegno Vi: done"
"First Contact: Gegno Vi: offered"
"First Contact: Hai: declined"
"First Contact: Hai: offered"
"First Contact: Ka'het: Remnant 1A: declined"
"First Contact: Ka'het: Remnant 1A: offered"
"First Contact: Ka'het: Remnant 1B: declined"
"First Contact: Ka'het: Remnant 1B: offered"
"First Contact: Korati Efreti: declined"
"First Contact: Korati Efreti: offered"
"First Contact: Kuwaru Efreti: declined"
"First Contact: Kuwaru Efreti: offered"
"First Contact: Laki Nemparu: declined"
"First Contact: Laki Nemparu: offered"
"First Contact: Quarg: declined"
"First Contact: Quarg: offered"
"First Contact: Remnant: declined"
"First Contact: Remnant: offered"
"First Contact: Rulei: active"
"First Contact: Rulei: offered"
"First Contact: Unfettered: declined"
"First Contact: Unfettered: offered"
"First Contact: Wanderer: failed"
"First Contact: Wanderer: offered"
. . .
"Gegno Vi Duels: failed" 2
"Gegno Vi Duels: offered" 2
"Giaru Gegno: Quarg Contact: declined"
"Giaru Gegno: Quarg Contact: offered"
"Graveyard Label: failed"
"Graveyard Label: offered"
. . .
"Ka'het: Patir Mystery 5: done"
"Ka'het: Patir Mystery 5: offered"
"Ka'het: Patir Reveal: failed"
"Ka'het: Patir Reveal: offered"
. . .
"Relic of Pasts: active"
"Relic of Pasts: offered"
"Remnant: Attended Celebration of Remembrance with Taely"
. . .
"Remnant: Chilia Intro Log: failed"
"Remnant: Chilia Intro Log: offered"
"Remnant: Cognizance 10: done"
"Remnant: Cognizance 10: offered"
. . .
"Remnant: Deep Surveillance: done"
"Remnant: Deep Surveillance: offered"
. . .
"Remnant: Expanded Horizons Astral job: done" 17
"Remnant: Expanded Horizons Astral job: offered" 18
. . .
"Remnant: Expanded Horizons Quarg 3: done"
"Remnant: Expanded Horizons Quarg 3: offered"
"Remnant: Expanded Horizons Storms 1: done"
"Remnant: Expanded Horizons Storms 1: offered"
. . .
"Remnant: Shattered Light 1: active"
"Remnant: Shattered Light 1: offered"
"Remnant: Taely Intro Log: failed"
"Remnant: Taely Intro Log: offered"
"Remnant: Tech Retrieval: done"
"Remnant: Tech Retrieval: offered"
"Remnant: Technology Available: done"
"Remnant: Technology Available: offered"
"Remnant: Teciimach Deployment: done"
"Remnant: Teciimach Deployment: offered"
"Remnant: Visit to Paradise 1: done"
"Remnant: Visit to Paradise 1: offered"
. . .
"Rescue Katya 2: done"
"Rescue Katya 2: offered"
. . .
"Riley: done"
"Riley: offered"
"Ringworld Debris: Hai: declined"
"Ringworld Debris: Hai: offered"
"Ringworld Debris: Quarg: declined"
"Ringworld Debris: Quarg: offered"
"Ringworld Debris: Remnant: declined"
"Ringworld Debris: Remnant: offered"
"Ringworld Debris: failed"
"Ringworld Debris: offered"
"Ruin: Landing: declined"
"Ruin: Landing: offered"
. . .
"Sad Archie: active"
"Sad Archie: offered"
. . .
"Unfettered Tribute 1: done" 24
"Unfettered Tribute 1: offered" 24
"Unfettered Tribute 2: done" 14
"Unfettered Tribute 2: offered" 14
"Unfettered Tribute 3: done" 12
"Unfettered Tribute 3: offered" 12
"Unfettered returning home: done"
"Unfettered returning home: offered"
"Unwanted Cargo Trigger: failed"
"Unwanted Cargo Trigger: offered"
"Unwanted Cargo: done"
"Unwanted Cargo: offered"
"Vi Augen: active"
"Vi Augen: offered"
"Visit Quarg in Gegno Space: done"
"Visit Quarg in Gegno Space: offered"
"Visit Wanderers Again: done"
"Visit Wanderers Again: offered"
"WR Star 1: done"
"WR Star 1: offered"
. . .
"Wanderer Captured Unfettered: active"
"Wanderer Captured Unfettered: done" 8
"Wanderer Captured Unfettered: offered" 9
. . .
"Wanderers Conversation: declined"
"Wanderers Conversation: offered"
"Wanderers: Defend Vara Ke'sok Hint: done"
"Wanderers: Defend Vara Ke'sok Hint: offered"
"Wanderers: Defend Vara Ke'sok: done"
"Wanderers: Defend Vara Ke'sok: offered"
"Wanderers: Defended Vara Ke'sok: done"
"Wanderers: Defended Vara Ke'sok: offered"
"Wanderers: Diplomacy: done"
"Wanderers: Diplomacy: offered"
"Wanderers: Hai Diplomat: done"
"Wanderers: Hai Diplomat: offered"
"Wanderers: Translation Machine: done"
"Wanderers: Translation Machine: offered"
"Wanderers: Truce Timer: failed"
"Wanderers: Truce Timer: offered"
"Wanderers: Unfettered Diplomacy 1: done"
"Wanderers: Unfettered Diplomacy 1: offered"
"Wanderers: Unfettered Diplomacy 1A: done"
"Wanderers: Unfettered Diplomacy 1A: offered"
"Wanderers: Unfettered Diplomacy 1B: done"
"Wanderers: Unfettered Diplomacy 1B: offered"
"Wanderers: Unfettered Diplomacy 1C: done"
"Wanderers: Unfettered Diplomacy 1C: offered"
. . .
"bet on hound racing"
celebrationawestruck
"chosen sides"
"coalition jobs" 351
"coalition knows hai"
"combat rating" 137008
"deep convoy"
"event: Greenrock recovered"
"event: Nanachi: Update"
"event: Nanachi: payment"
"event: Robin unlocked"
"event: Sich'ka'ara empty"
"event: Sich'ka'ara restored"
"event: Tarazed neutrality"
"event: Thule becomes independent"
"event: albatross joins free worlds"
"event: alphas capture Poisonwood"
"event: asteroid on patir"
"event: at war with the pug"
"event: battle for Rastaban"
"event: battle for Thule"
"event: battle for altair"
"event: battle for delta capricorni"
"event: battle for zeta aquilae"
"event: battle in Wei"
"event: battle in Wei over"
"event: battle of alioth"
"event: bloodsea joins free worlds"
"event: bloodsea spaceport completed"
"event: capture of Kornephoros"
"event: catalytic ramscoop available"
"event: chikee break"
"event: death of nguyen"
"event: deep sky tech available"
"event: dreadnought deployment"
"event: dreadnoughts for sale"
"event: ember waste label"
"event: end battle of alioth"
"event: flamethrower available"
"event: fumbling mugger followup timer"
"event: fumbling mugger timer"
"event: fw abandoned Greenrock"
"event: fw armistice"
"event: fw at war with Syndicate"
"event: fw begin syndicate capture"
"event: fw conservatory founded"
"event: fw dirt belt patrols"
"event: fw empty gienah"
"event: fw end syndicate capture"
"event: fw escorts abandon timer"
"event: fw expanded and cut"
"event: fw gets catalytic ramscoop"
"event: fw northern expansion"
"event: fw occupying the north"
"event: fw reconciliation break"
"event: fw restore gienah"
"event: fw safe passage ends"
"event: fw safe passage starts"
"event: fw senate timer"
"event: fw southern expansion"
"event: fw suppressed Greenrock"
"event: fw syndicate welcoming"
"event: fw tarazed joins"
"event: fw tarazed republic"
"event: fw zug expansion complete"
"event: fw zug expansion underway"
"event: fwc southern battle"
"event: gegno space label"
"event: graveyard insights"
"event: graveyard label"

. . .
"event: label coalition space"
"event: label hai space"
"event: label korath space"
"event: label wanderer space"
"event: laborer payment"
"event: liberation of Poisonwood"
"event: liberation of altair"
"event: navy occupying the south"
"event: navy out of rastaban"
"event: navy using mark ii ships"
"event: normal in Alnasl"
"event: oathkeepers founded"
"event: patir appears"
"event: patir mystery timer"
"event: pirate use jousting cutthroat"
"event: plasma turret available"
"event: prepare for battle of Kornephoros"
"event: pug flee"
"event: pug invasion"
"event: pug invasion 2"
"event: pug invasion 3"
"event: pug invasion 4"
"event: pug link restoration 1"
"event: pug link restoration 2"
"event: pug link restoration 3"
"event: pug link restoration 4"
"event: pug territory liberated"
"event: recapture of Kornephoros"
"event: reconnected altair"
"event: reconnected delta capricorni"
"event: remembrance day"
"event: remnant salvage available"
"event: remnant: change hail"
"event: remnant: cognizance 1 systems available"
"event: remnant: cognizance calm"
"event: remnant: cognizance merganser"
"event: remnant: cognizance peregrine"
"event: remnant: cognizance salvage expansion"
"event: remnant: cognizance timer"
"event: remnant: lab availability"
"event: remnant: merganser fleet"
"event: remnant: nenia ember waste node"
"event: remnant: nenia empty"
"event: remnant: nenia restored"
"event: remnant: pantica void sprites"
"event: remnant: postverta reveal"
"event: remnant: puffin"
"event: remnant: remove hidden"
"event: remnant: research update bjd1"
"event: remnant: return the samples timer"
"event: remnant: scanning tolerance"
"event: remnant: sign studies complete"
"event: remnant: ssil vida activation"
"event: remnant: ssil vida area unvisited"
"event: remnant: ssil vida deactivation"
"event: remnant: ssil vida inhabited"
"event: remnant: ssil vida outfitter"
"event: remnant: surveillance begin"
"event: remnant: surveillance end"
"event: remnant: teciimach deployment"
"event: remnant: tubfalet appearance"
"event: remnant: void sprite research"
"event: remnant: wait for plume"
"event: saryd couple follow-up"
"event: saryd couple has money"
"event: southern carriers 1"
"event: southern carriers 2"
"event: southern carriers 3"
"event: southern carriers 4"
"event: stack core for sale"
"event: start of hostilities"
"event: syndicate assistance"
"event: syndicate convoys to Tarazed"
"event: syndicate occupies sol"
"event: tarazed assistance"
"event: temporary ceasefire"
"event: terraforming Rand"
"event: terraforming Tundra"
"event: terraforming follow-up"
"event: terraforming research"
"event: terraforming timer"
"event: terraforming timer 2"
"event: unofficial ceasefire"
"event: wanderer / unfettered peace"
"event: wanderer technology available"
"event: wanderers: truce timer"
"event: war begins"
"event: war begins: declined"
"event: war begins: offered"
"event: wolf pack reveal"
"exploration interest"
explorationinterest
"fw accepted Susquehanna's word of honor"
"fw alphas done"
"fw bloodsea done"
"fw caught navy planting sensors"
"fw delivered prisoners"
"fw first chapter done"
"fw given jump drive"
"fw pirate suggestion: diplomacy"
"fw pug 1: visited waypoints"
"fw recon: obvious gunboat"
"fw tarazed joins: failed"
"fw tarazed joins: offered"
"gegno: met gegno before quarg"
"graveyard insights compatibility: failed"
"graveyard insights compatibility: offered"
"human cultural data"
"ka'het: attacked ka'sei"
karma 3
"kestrel available"
"kestrel: more shields"
"known to the heliarchs"
"language: Hai"
"language: Wanderer"
"met hai before TMBR"
"met remington"

. . .
"remnant chilia"
"remnant met dusk" 2
"remnant met taely" 6
"remnant: blood test pure"
"remnant: broken jump drive count" 132
"remnant: celebration: annotated"
"remnant: cognizance: found korath fleet"
"remnant: desired to join them"
"remnant: disable and save count"
"remnant: got deep anomaly research"
"remnant: hoverboarding"
"remnant: rescue missions" 140
"remnant: told about deep"
"remnant: visited the vault"
"retrieved information"
"said no to drugs" 14
"secure deep package" 6
"spaceport reminder month" 9
"spaceport reminder year" 3019
"unfettered know of wanderers"
"unfettered requested jump drives"
"wormhole alpha found"

Again, I apologize if I have posted too much or too little here. I have seen other posts about the Truce Timer, but all just said there was a delay of a month or two--not ten years! So I must have missed something.

[rgathercoal]

Originally posted by Rocket Witch:

I don't know about that mission/event/timer specifically, but many missions and events will automatically fail immediately upon being triggered as part of their intended function. It looks scary when you read your save file and see a load of failed items, but in such cases 'fail' is frequently synonymous with 'resolve' or 'finish' or 'end'.

Thank you so much. This is strangely comforting. What an unfortunate convention, given that "done" is also used, implying that "failed" means something different.

[sergekoriakin]

Looks like you need to sell one more JD to Unfettered Hai. Check you missions - can't you see `Jump drive source?` mission?.
You can look at your save file for lines
"Wanderers: Jump Drive Source: offered"

If not - land at `Vara K'chrai` - Wanderer capital and click at starport. Agreed to help. Next fly to any unfettered planet with JD and sell it one more time. You found information about strange republic carrier and continue this quest line

[sergekoriakin]

Truce Timer - it's just a time mark. This mission is always declined and start timeout for 40 days. Your save file say this timeout already gone - "event: wanderers: truce timer"

[rgathercoal]

Thank you. I can't find "jump drive source" in my save file. Yet when I land on Vara K'chrai--repeatedly--nothing happens. I have sold 3 jump drives to the unfettered so far, and they have stopped asking me for a trade when I land there. So do I need to sell 4 drives, or 5, to them?

[rgathercoal]

Originally posted by sergekoriakin:

Truce Timer - it's just a time mark. This mission is always declined and start timeout for 40 days. Your save file say this timeout already gone - "event: wanderers: truce timer"

Thank you so much. i believe this timeout expired ten years ago (in game time). It started in 2026 and it is now 2036. How time flies when you are having fun. . .

[sergekoriakin]

i have no idea. You can use http://endlesssky.500mb.net to scan you gamesave and found missions available in your state.

[lalelunatic]

wasnt the point where you have to track down the JD source in the wanderer story the thing with the alien tech to actually be able to scan for the JD signature? and/or find some "semi hidden" world first to proceed after you given the unfettered enough JDs and choose the conversation options to lure out info?

[sergekoriakin]

Found savegames for
- `Hawkeye Pierce`. Looks like you cannot visit pugs Ruin awhile. You can found wormholle at Deneb system and follow there. After that you can follow coalition space and look at two new quest lines - heliarch and lunarium. The rest game looks like passed
- `Terrabird Hellfire` - year 3022. There is about a begining of FW war and all alians are intact

[rgathercoal]

Thank you again. I already used the wormhole at Deneb at the end of the Pug War. I followed it to a dead end. I went back and rechecked and there are no links or planets available to me at this time. I also went back into Coalition space and did the "jump drives to heliarchs thing. At least I sold them three (all I had at the time). I also did the special metal ore mission--at least they said they couldn't take any more at this time. So without something available with the Hai/Wanderers, I am pretty much stuck ferrying people and goods around. Profitable but not very absorbing. What else do i need to do with the Unfettered? They will continue to take my jump drives but give no further information. Ir feels as though I had something skip after taking the Hai Ambassador to Wanderers and running their food caravan. It just ended with them saying "we have to know where they are getting the drives"--but no instructions or hints as to what I should do next.
I have never been this stuck in this game, I have now spent 20 game years running around since the end of the Human/Pug war and their escape through the wormhole. I have visited the Pug planet adjacent to the Wanderers, but they don't interact with me at all.

[lalelunatic]

well, have you found, do be more specific SPOILERS....
...
...
...
...
the Host system and Avalon?
or have you already deployed any scanner cubes for that matter? not the deep ones, the ones from the Hai?
and if you drop JD´s to the unfettered does the dialogue give you any other options than "i will bring you more", you said no, but just to be sure at which part you´re stuck?

not sure if this leads anywhere, but i just never see you mention the host and avalon. so maybe you missed that one? because i cant find it in your save list. should net you the blelw entries:

"Wanderers: Alpha Surveillance D (Avalon): declined"
"Wanderers: Alpha Surveillance D (Avalon): offered"
,,,,,
"visited planet" Avalon

[sergekoriakin]

Originally posted by rgathercoal:

Thank you again...

Sorry, I am just amaking anote for saved gamefiles i found on my site. The pilot `Hawkeye Pierce` at gamedate: 24 2 3131 still no visiting a Ruin awhile. And completelly finish a wanderer storyline. So it's looks like not your case. Can you upload your save on link at my previouse message?

[rgathercoal]

Originally posted by lalelunatic:

well, have you found, do be more specific SPOILERS....
...
...
...
...
the Host system and Avalon?
or have you already deployed any scanner cubes for that matter? not the deep ones, the ones from the Hai?
and if you drop JD´s to the unfettered does the dialogue give you any other options than "i will bring you more", you said no, but just to be sure at which part you´re stuck?

not sure if this leads anywhere, but i just never see you mention the host and avalon. so maybe you missed that one? because i cant find it in your save list. should net you the blelw entries:

"Wanderers: Alpha Surveillance D (Avalon): declined"
"Wanderers: Alpha Surveillance D (Avalon): offered"
,,,,,
"visited planet" Avalon

No, I haven't found either. But I cannot seem to trigger them. I expected the Wanders Surveillance to be triggered in the Capital, but nothing happens, after repeated (more than 30 attempts) to land/reland.

The Unfettered paid for the drive but it said "you discovered nothing additional" (paraphrased). This was for drives #5 and #6.

It has been 30 game years since the Human/Syndicate/Pug War and I have tried everything I could think of. . .even made nice with the Gegnac. I can't help but think I have missed something.