[Spoiler] Capturing a world-ship

[BXblob]

So I've been trying to cap a world ship for around 2 hours now and I'm really struggling! Is there any key things i'm missing (I have the most optimal build for it too) like a certain amount of crew on the other ship or something like that. Any other tips would also be great thanks! :D

[Jan Zizka of Trocnov]

Originally posted by Erendelil Bakun:

Originally posted by czartrak:

if you really REALLY want that WS, get it fast. Once 0.9.9 comes around it will be literally impossible to get one

Why?

introduction of a new Korarh H2H weapon

[DC Zhor]

Is it that rifle mentioned in the Discord? What was it, repeater rifle?

EDIT: I think it's past time the Kor Efreti actually give something useful to the player. They don't sell anything but ammo extensions and that command center. Selling a WS after the Wanderer campaign is complete would be nice. Those engines too, although I have better stuff available to me in that department now. I would understand the Efreti not selling weapons, but the essentials I think they should.

[Jan Zizka of Trocnov]

Yes, that rifle

IMO selling worldships would be kinda OP in the ship capping field. Also, why would the lizards sell what they literally live on.

[DC Zhor]

Originally posted by czartrak:

IMO selling worldships would be kinda OP in the ship capping field. Also, why would the lizards sell what they literally live on.

I tried the WS in save editing. Honestly, I don't capture ships all that much unless I need cash in the midgame, but my impressions from it were really underwhelming. It serves literally no other purpose. The turret hardpoints are so far apart the range from some weapons sometimes can hardly go past the length of the ship, the engine capacity is abysmal for a ship that size, and so on... it BETTER be good at capturing, because it can't do the rest properly. Maybe it can become an option once T3 is available to the player, then it will hardly be overpowered compared to the options. Right now if you go for Tier 3 ships you don't really have an enemy to fight against, at least not from a lore perspective, get Quarg ships to attack... the Quarg? Archons are already susceptible to dying to weaker ships, so I feel like the Quarg are a bit redundant.

[fgnt]

Originally posted by czartrak:

if you really REALLY want that WS, get it fast. Once 0.9.9 comes around it will be literally impossible to get one

I've got a snapshot with the Remnant WS disabled and ready to board so I'm safe

[AnkleMuncher]

Originally posted by czartrak:

if you really REALLY want that WS, get it fast. Once 0.9.9 comes around it will be literally impossible to get one

0.9.9 is out now but I'm pretty sure world ships only have 150 rifles so did 0.9.9 make it easier or harder since you can also get a lot more h2h weapons? I don't really know ship capping mechanics

[Jan Zizka of Trocnov]

Originally posted by DreadNight:

Originally posted by czartrak:

if you really REALLY want that WS, get it fast. Once 0.9.9 comes around it will be literally impossible to get one

0.9.9 is out now but I'm pretty sure world ships only have 150 rifles so did 0.9.9 make it easier or harder since you can also get a lot more h2h weapons? I don't really know ship capping mechanics

Its harder now. Impossible. It can’t be done with minmax nerve gas baccy because it has better cap defense now

[Pompano]

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[AnkleMuncher]

Originally posted by czartrak:

Originally posted by DreadNight:

0.9.9 is out now but I'm pretty sure world ships only have 150 rifles so did 0.9.9 make it easier or harder since you can also get a lot more h2h weapons? I don't really know ship capping mechanics

Its harder now. Impossible. It can’t be done with minmax nerve gas baccy because it has better cap defense now

But can't you also get higher attack?

[DC Zhor]

Originally posted by DreadNight:

But can't you also get higher attack?

Without plugins there are no stronger h2h weapon than gas.

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There are the Heliarch rifles which have a higher attack, but they can only be looted, and their very high defense actually makes the chances of capping a WS even lower since that makes the Korath attack less and denfend more. There is also the Void Sprite Rifle, which is much better than any other hand to hand, but you can get only one

[DC Zhor]

Originally posted by Beccabunny:

There are the Heliarch rifles which have a higher attack, but they can only be looted, and their very high defense actually makes the chances of capping a WS even lower since that makes the Korath attack less and denfend more. There is also the Void Sprite Rifle, which is much better than any other hand to hand, but you can get only one

This update is full of surprises...

[rpraat]

Impossible to do now
I have been trying with a kitted out Bactrian

SYSTEMS
54 x Bunk rooms
1 x Small bunk room
26 x Outfit expansions
POWER
2 x KP-6 Photovolltaic panel (3 ton each)
1 x Supercapacitor (2 ton)
ENGINES
X1200 Ion steering (12 ton)
X1700 Ion thruster (16 ton)
HAND TO HAND
465 Nerve Gas
465 Biodefences

My ship
Crew: 463
Attack 1759.4 Defence 116676.0

World Ship
Crew: 794
Attack 1351.6 Defence 2424.2

After Attack/ defending from 73 crew down to 1
My Ship
Crew: 1
World Ship
Crew: 312

[DC Zhor]

Bactrian WS

SYSTEMS
55 x Bunk rooms
26 x Outfit expansions
POWER
1 x Small Collector Module (8t)
1 x Small Battery Module (4t)
ENGINES
Small Steering Module(7t)
Small Thrust Module (9t)
HAND TO HAND
465 Enforcer Confrontation Gear

My ship
Crew: 465
Attack: 1906.5
Defense: 2743.5

Legitimately, perhaps. You could check if the heliarch rifles change that, by editting them in. They have both higher attack and defense in relation to gas. Also, I recommend changing the engines, there are smaller ones out there, like the small modules for the Coalition, they are actually better than the ones you're using, as well as the solar panels, I think the Coalition is the outfitter to go to when taking on the WorldShip.

EDIT: Just checked in-game. They actually use less energy than the engines you're using, but the heat produced is much higher so extra care is recommended. Also, the solar collector you're using really is the smallest so... yeah, keep it.

EDIT2: With my config you can fit 2 more crew and upsize power.

EDIT3: You can also add a Void Rifle to the mix, get some extra 15+ attack out of one crew member.

[rpraat]

Originally posted by Erendelil Bakun:

Bactrian WS

SYSTEMS
55 x Bunk rooms
26 x Outfit expansions
POWER
1 x Small Collector Module (8t)
1 x Small Battery Module (4t)
ENGINES
Small Steering Module(7t)
Small Thrust Module (9t)
HAND TO HAND
465 Enforcer Confrontation Gear

My ship
Crew: 465
Attack: 1906.5
Defense: 2743.5

Legitimately, perhaps. You could check if the heliarch rifles change that, by editting them in. They have both higher attack and defense in relation to gas. Also, I recommend changing the engines, there are smaller ones out there, like the small modules for the Coalition, they are actually better than the ones you're using, as well as the solar panels, I think the Coalition is the outfitter to go to when taking on the WorldShip.

EDIT: Just checked in-game. They actually use less energy than the engines you're using, but the heat produced is much higher so extra care is recommended. Also, the solar collector you're using really is the smallest so... yeah, keep it.

EDIT2: With my config you can fit 2 more crew and upsize power.

EDIT3: You can also add a Void Rifle to the mix, get some extra 15+ attack out of one crew member.

Do you only get one of those void rifles from that mission?
I've only played through the Human (free world/Pug) stuff so far so haven't encountered the confrontation gear.
Also i randomly got their crew down to 87 one time trying, luck of the RNG i guess but will be endless sky-imes before i would be lucky enough to get the bloody ship