Help! Clockwork Mansion mission

[Pastor of Muppets]

Ok, so I took the trolley to the mansion but didn't go in. I went down a bunch of outdoor stairs that end up at broken trolley rails sticking out over the chasm below. Across from the rails is the area with the fat pipe and chain you can climb up. I managed to jump safely from the broken rails to that area, but my problem is that now I can't get back to the mansion and I don't have a recent save. The trolley is parked at the mansion on electrified rails and after a couple of dozen tries I haven't been able to rejump the gap to get back to the mansion side. Any suggestions?

[Pastor of Muppets]

Maybe I need to mention also that I'm playing without supernatural powers. I can't blink myself over the gap.

[acowsik]

Originally posted by Pastor of Muppets:

Ok, so I took the trolley to the mansion but didn't go in. I went down a bunch of outdoor stairs that end up at broken trolley rails sticking out over the chasm below. Across from the rails is the area with the fat pipe and chain you can climb up. I managed to jump safely from the broken rails to that area, but my problem is that now I can't get back to the mansion and I don't have a recent save. The trolley is parked at the mansion on electrified rails and after a couple of dozen tries I haven't been able to rejump the gap to get back to the mansion side. Any suggestions?

You will probably have to start from the beginning of that mission. You can load the mission save which gets created at the start of every mission and cannot be deleted (while in the game).

[Joe Kundlak]

is the game not making an Autosave somewhere before the Mansion?

[acowsik]

Originally posted by Joe Kundlak:

is the game not making an Autosave somewhere before the Mansion?

I dont remember if those get overwritten when quicksaving or whatever but at least the start of the mission is the worst he has to go back to.

If he is not using manual saves then that is going to hurt him as just using quicksaves alone wont help cos you will be constantly overwriting saves and if you screw up somewhere you wont have a proper backup.

[Pastor of Muppets]

The way I played the level, I never went out toward the area with the fat pipe and chain from the station side before heading to the mansion. That means I skipped the nearby areas with bonecharms and whatnot. So when I got to the mansion, I decided the rails/girders sticking out over the chasm must be an intended way to access those. At the very least, I figured the designers would allow me to jump back once I was across, or provide some other way to return. That's why I posted here, hoping someone knew that other way back :)

There is no autosave for that station area, which seems kind of strange, and my quicksave was obviously written over while I was on the wrong side of the chasm. And yes, my permanent saves were all made while I was on the wrong side, too. I'll be more careful from now on. I just assumed from the quality of the game overall I wouldn't be able to break it this way.

Thanks for the replies! I'll just have to play the station section over again.

[Pastor of Muppets]

Correction: there is an autosave for the beginning of that station area. That's not so bad, since I know that section backwards and forwards (literally) now. ♥♥♥♥ ton of guards to deal with, though.

[Kuma]

You should be able to jump back, even without superpowers.

Found a video on it look at 3:28
https://youtu.be/6R4wASNCsso?t=207

[darinbob]

For better jumps, stand up or use sprint. But perhaps it's impossible at some point. Some stuff you just can't do without powers, but some stuff that seems impossible sometimes isn't.

[Pastor of Muppets]

Originally posted by wishIwasabear:

You should be able to jump back, even without superpowers.

Cool! Thanks for that. That jump is exactly what I've been trying to do over and over and over and not succeeding at. It's the obvious best choice for a jump point. And trust me, I'm sprinting and have all movement-hindering bonecharms deactivated. But seeing that it can be done, I'll just have to go back and try some more.

A question just occurred to me: are all of my failed jumps (i.e. deaths) being counted on my stats page? If so, that'll be good for a laugh when I see it :)

P.S. Thanks very much for digging that video up for me. It never occurred to me to look for something that specific.

[Pastor of Muppets]

Ok, I'll answer my own questions, for the sake of anyone else who comes here looking for help on this.

What I've learned is that I wasn't jumping properly. I was trying to jump while looking at my landing point, as you would in real life. What you need to do, in order to get maximum distance, is line yourself up a few feet from your jump point while looking at your landing point. Then look down and sprint, keeping your head down like that. That way you can better judge the last possible moment to take off. Once I did that, I made this jump easily, and the one after it (the one the guy in the video was having trouble with) on the first try.

And yes, the deaths are counted in my stats. I'm not telling you the number, 'cause when I actually saw it I didn't laugh :)