Emily's mesmerize skill is way OP

[alation13]

Cast it once near a group of guards, assassinate them, as other arrive on the scene they get caught too ready for easy kills. You can literally chain 10+ kills together in a few seconds with a single casting. It seems way more powerful as a room cleaner than either doppleganger, shadow walk or domino, as they seem to be limited to only 3-4 chained kills.

[arnaud_defrance]

It's the equivalent of Timestop which is as overpowered, so I don't see the problem?

It's still less useful for a ghost run than timestop. I don't get in many scenario with 10+ guards either.

[alation13]

They usually come in groups of 4-5 if you are going for a high chaos, lethal run (yes I know the easy way to play). I was able to chain a few of those groups together and cleared whole sections of the map of all guards in a few seconds with mesmerize. I just hate that I waited until mission 8 to get it, I didn't realise that as one guard died it would mesmerise the next closest one, and kept just doing that as they ran to the site of the noise. :(

[arnaud_defrance]

Nothing wrong with playing lethal even if it's easier.

Powers in general let you walk through the game very easily, so long as you know where you need to go.

I don't bother with mesmerize a lot of the time myself. A stun mines with additional use then a pistol shots to attract attention (or just using the blade) does wonder to bring guards where they go down.

[alation13]

I actually find high chaos much more fun. And yes I use that clanking the sword on objects quite often. I like to shoot the head off the robots with the crossbow and then use the sword hitting objects to either lure them to a stun mine or to attack another one of them.

[Beltway]

Why did u pick Outsider's brand in the first place? To whine about it here?

[alation13]

Originally posted by Beltway:

Why did u pick Outsider's brand in the first place? To whine about it here?

Who is whining? I was just stating that it I found it to be Emily's most powerful power, considering all the info on the internet saying that domino is her best power.

[Beltway]

Originally posted by alation13:

Originally posted by Beltway:

Why did u pick Outsider's brand in the first place? To whine about it here?

Who is whining?

You are. It's because of the likes of u, that we don't have nice things anymore, like d2 viciously, sadistically demolished darkvision. op this, op that, op everywhere and everything; again: why did u pick Outsider's mark in the first place? To whine about it here?

[alation13]

Originally posted by Beltway:

Originally posted by alation13:

Who is whining?

You are. It's because of the likes of u, that we don't have nice things anymore, like d2 viciously, sadistically demolished darkvision. op this, op that, op everywhere and everything; again: why did u pick Outsider's mark in the first place? To whine about it here?

Wow, you have some weird imagination and paranoia going. To deduce all that from someone saying a supernatural power in a fantasy game is unexpectedly very strong.

[Beltway]

Oh, really? For some reason, darkvision power in d1 outperforms darkvision in d2 with its sickening visual effects palette, reduced range and dumbass ping, for example. Quite a lot of whining about op super powers so Outsiders mark can be rejected in d2. And still u not satisfied. Again now: why did u pick Outsider's mark in the first place? To whine about it here?

[alation13]

Take a chill pill and stop projecting your own biases on other people, none of that was said in this thread by anyone but you.

So you have been reported for derailing the thread and attempting to insult or inflame.

[Garou]

For lethal it sounds like a good skill but if you're trying to do a pacifist ghost run I prefer other skills, like possession and far reach enemy pull (with stealth bonecharm for pull).

[alation13]

I guess that it could be made more effective with the strong arms bonecharm if you are doing a pacifist run but for a ghost run it would be rather risky trying to choke the guards out before it wears off. But it would make nice easy targets for sleep darts or bottles of chloroform.

[Beltway]

How very noble of u, sunshine. Named the thread "mesmerize is way op" no? Them devs included whole new no power mode for special triggered folks like u, yet here u are. So, just answer the question: why did u accept the mark if super powers way op?

[vac]

No ones whining you spaz lmao.

[Caligula]

i dont really find mesmerize to have much use,imo. why waste a large chunk of mana to kill 4+ guards when sleep darts or a crossbow bolt then firebolt can work just as well? imean,i think it's meant to get through chokepoints or make a group stop chasing you for a bit,but im not sure...although i DO know that if you chain it with domino,you cna get like an extra 1-3 kills/knockouts from it initially. there may also be a bonecharm related to it,but if there is i havent found it in any run so far,so no gurantees.

also,to the guy who suddenly came in here and started screaming "StOp WhInInG aBoUt ThE gAmE's PoWeRs If YoU dIdNt ChOoSe BlOoD aNd IrOn???11!?/",uh...just dont please. the powers are meant to be overpowered to a degree. you're able to instantly teleport,bring people and things to you,possess anything living,use wind as a weapon,have bootleg magical nightvision,stop time,summon an abomonation to entrance things,summon two clones,turn into a smoke monster thing,summon rats,and link multiple people up into the same fate,not to mention have slowed time when spotted,the ability to reflect bullets at enemies,the ability to turn corpses into bloodflies,the ability to be just stronger and faster than a normal human ingame,as well whatever your bonecharms you make/collect give you in terms of boosts. you're not meant to play a powers run as a normal. if you want to play as a badass normal,do no powers,noone's going to be mad about which mode you choose. but dont piss and moan about it in an unrelated tread,if you're going to complain about players who do powers run,do it in the right thread. this is a thread about how mesmerize can be op.