So... none of the missions really mattered? [ENDING SPOILERS]

[yunafire]

Don't get me wrong, I *greatly* enjoyed the levels, especially the University, Witch's Museum, Stilton's Time Warp, but the ending... ugh.

The final battle with Delilah was a joke. Compared to what we did to Jindosh, a genius trapped forever in his own mind, Delilah gets off easy. She gets to rule her own kingdom, only its imaginary. Which, to her, is all the same thing. There was no follow-up to Outsider's "she's got her eyes on a much bigger prize" thing, either. Unless that 'bigger prize' was simply painting a new kingdom? It doesn't make sense. She could've easily done that in a coven somewhere, without the dramatic 'I'm taking ur throne lawl bye ♥♥♥♥♥'.

But the ending is just... terrible. If high-chaos and ya killed your allies, then it was just two scenes. Overseers take over Karnaca, Emily rules with a playful smirk. Whoo? (Though I did like you could leave Corvo a statue) Low-chaos means Paolo and his group chat up the Duke, Anton goes off somewhere, Billie finds Daud (which seemed a strange last scene, unless it was an obvious dlc-tease)... It just felt rushed.

D1's endings just felt so epic, with many different scenes depending on chaos. Maybe it's because I chose non-lethal options for all the targets, in both campaigns. I don't know.

[TBLackey]

Iirc the painting was part of a spell which would recreate the world to her liking. You can corrupt her spell and trap her in the painting world - the good ending.

And she doesnt have to get off easy, you can always stab her in the belly and then snap her neck.

Endings were kinda meh i agree

[Wicked Kiwi]

Overall I think the ending is satisfying enough, except for Delilah's part. That was a little of a let down, for a couple of reasons: she was already trapped in the past (Brigmore Witches) and so nothing new under the sun there ; there really wasn't a punishment for her, which all other characters got (and that means Howlers and Priests also) .

Anton goes back to Tyvia if I remember the island's name, he was originally from there and talks about his desire to be home a couple times during the game.

I kind of hope that Billie will have her own DLC, Knife of Dunwall and the others were definitely good ones, so I wouldn't mind to give them the chance to explain some more backstory.

Good game, worth playing. Still a better one than Deus Ex: MD ... trust me - But not superb. And too many bugs even 2 weeks after release, I can understand why many are pissed off.

[Krono]

The plan with her painting was to take over the entire world with it and rule it, I'd definitely call that a much bigger prize than an Empire. The only way to take out somebody like that would be what we did, namely trapping her in her own illusion for eternity

[Wicked Kiwi]

Maybe I got it wrong, but the plan was to invert reality through her painting. That's what she demonstrated in the Chapel having a tree grow where none was before. Or are we really saying the same thing and I'm wrong ?

[cassiels]

I agree with the "eyes on a bigger prize". I expected an ending in high chaos with Delilah winning and a clash between the human world and the spirit world. Who ever won, Delilah or Outsider, would have control over both worlds, make their allies immortal, and rule the worlds forever.

[Krono]

Originally posted by cassiels:

I agree with the "eyes on a bigger prize". I expected an ending in high chaos with Delilah winning and a clash between the human world and the spirit world. Who ever won, Delilah or Outsider, would have control over both worlds, make their allies immortal, and rule the worlds forever.

This one really doesn't make sense. Why would beating the game in a high chaos manner mean Delilah wins? Beating it in high chaos would mean she's dead

[超高校級のEther]

Maybe there is a third ending for Delilah?
I noticed when you put her on the throne, the game displayed 'eliminate Delilah' checked but 'find another way' unchecked. Don't know it's a bug or not and there is a thread reporting the same thing.
Besides, the heart trapping Delilah's soul whispered 'you will bring me back, end me in my hands'. It may hint something......

[超高校級のEther]

Originally posted by yunafire:

Low-chaos means Paolo and his group chat up the Duke, Anton goes off somewhere, Billie finds Daud (which seemed a strange last scene, unless it was an obvious dlc-tease)... It just felt rushed.

Low chaos u can get both Howlers and Overseers chat with duke.
I do feel the ending is rushed, at least they should give a ceremony to Emily.
But a dlc for Billie? I prefer a dlc for Delilah. It's a pain how twisted she is now, but it's another story when she is at Emily's age.

[Krono]

Originally posted by Ether:

Maybe there is a third ending for Delilah?
I noticed when you put her on the throne, the game displayed 'eliminate Delilah' checked but 'find another way' unchecked. Don't know it's a bug or not and there is a thread reporting the same thing.
Besides, the heart trapping Delilah's soul whispered 'you will bring me back, end me in my hands'. It may hint something......

I remember seeing that in my own playthrough, so there must be another way to handle it other than placing Delilah back on her thrown once you've rendered her unconscious

[Knives]

While I do agree that Deliliah got off easier than anyone else in the game, think about it. Daud trapped her once already. She got out. So I kind of understand why they did it how they did. If she doesn't know shes trapped, she can't bust out. I doubt any mortal prision could hold her, even the special overseer music box can't stop her magic. Corvo/Emily doesn't have the magic knowhow to remove the mark, and I doubt the outsider wanted to, even if he could. Without her in the world her coven loses it's magic. So what option did you really have?

[NRieh]

I agree that "good" ending seemed weaker compared to the first game. It was...just ok, I guess, but I felt like I expected more.

Probably that's because we don't have many characters to care about. In Dishonored 1 we get a nice scene wwith each and every ally - lot's of them. Emily with Corvo at her side, Ceceil, Callista with her uncle, Samuel, Sokolov and Piero working together etc.

In Dis2 it's basically a shot from Karnaca (depending on your PT - Overseer, Paolo, Fake Duke or...Corvo Attano) with whoever had survived ( Doctor, Stillton) + Sokolov + Meagan\Billie.

I find Delilah to be the weakest Dishonored Villian so far (and that list includes the 'Corroded Man'). At first they had tried to add some depth to her character, but that Void scene is basically everything she's got. Plot-wise she's a generic Witch, few steps away from the Disney Evil Queens.

And the fact that her final encounter literally repeats the encounter with Daud, and with the SAME results? Well, I don't know... Let's just say that if 10 years later she turns back into the world, I'm goign to be really angry.

It's a shame, really, because missions in Dishonored 2 are 200% awesome. Game-design is simply amazing - art, gameplay, everything. But it's like they had abandoned the main plot for the sake of it. Speaking about level 9 - the 'radio song' (when the witch starts singing Brigmore Lullaby) had been one of the most emotional moments in game. It's strange that I'm going to remember it instead of the boss\ending sequence.

As for the unanswered questions - Outsider had basically told us that 'Delilah became a part of him and it disturbs him'. Not a single word of what he thinks about leaving her alive.

[DarkMatter]

Sequels are never as original.

[nikolaj-11]

Overseers and Howlers isn't dependant on your chaos.

[yunafire]

Iirc the painting was part of a spell which would recreate the world to her liking. You can corrupt her spell and trap her in the painting world - the good ending.

... Yes, I'm aware what the endings were. I had literally played them both, good and 'bad' ones, back to back before posting. And no, you can't just 'always stab her' if you're doing a completely non-lethal run.

I kind of hope that Billie will have her own DLC, Knife of Dunwall and the others were definitely good ones, so I wouldn't mind to give them the chance to explain some more backstory.

I entirely support that. I loved her character; how they took such a small character from Daud's dlc and gave her her own character arc. (Strange she only told Corvo her true identity... Or maybe that's because I was doing a low chaos run with him?)

Plus, it would make a nice lil call back to her line about meeting the Outsider if she.. well, obviously, meets him in her own dlc. Or maybe she would just share powers with Daud, instead of getting her own 'mark'? Hrm.

And too many bugs even 2 weeks after release

Not for me. I had only one random crash (where it just quit to desktop with no warning, no error) but that was all, once I fixed the 'flickering black screen' issue.

The only way to take out somebody like that would be what we did, namely trapping her in her own illusion for eternity

Yes, fine, but that is still, in a *way*, giving her all she wanted. She's just in her own reality. A crueler fate would be, I don't know, trapping her in one of her statues, forced to watch the Kaldwins' reign. Instead she gets to live in her own fantasy world. Compared to Jindosh's electro-botomy, or D1's Pendleton twins kidnapped into slave labor with their tongues cut out, she's getting off *incredibly* easy.

Low chaos u can get both Howlers and Overseers chat with duke.

That's good to know. In my LC playthru, I picked Howlers, simply because I'd selected Overseers as Emily. And, plus, there was an achievement. Strange there's not one for them working together. (Or playing on the hardest difficulty, but that's neither here nor there)

So what option did you really have?

See above with my 'trapped in statue' option. If the game can make up a deus ex machina with 'construct a corrupted rune' (which makes even less sense if you're doing 'no powers'/no bonecrafting run, as neither character would know how to do that) then they could've easily done that, or similar, as well. We already had her soul in a heart, after all.

(depending on your PT - Overseer, Paolo, Fake Duke or...Corvo Attano) with whoever had survived ( Doctor, Stillton)

Wait, what? I didn't see the Doctor or Stilton again after their missions (and recovery on Dreadful Wale; I saved both). And surprising that Corvo could rule. I'll need to watch the endings on YT, it seems.

I find Delilah to be the weakest Dishonored Villian so far (and that list includes the 'Corroded Man'). At first they had tried to add some depth to her character, but that Void scene is basically everything she's got. Plot-wise she's a generic Witch, few steps away from the Disney Evil Queens.

So agreed. Especially as her 'void backstory' is never made clear on if that's what happened or she's simply crazy and making ♥♥♥♥ up. Even Corvo wonders the same thing. If everything she said is true, then she's quite literally the anti-Mary Sue, where every evil in the world is heaped upon her.

RE: Brigmore Lullaby. It wasn't emotional for me at all, just weird. Then again, my memory of 'Brigmore Witches' is faded a bit.

Outsider had basically told us that 'Delilah became a part of him and it disturbs him'.

Yet another thing we don't get any follow-up to. So, is the Outsider 'whole' again, with Delilah either killed or trapped? Are they still linked? Is her painting-reality now some piece of the void? Its so confusing.