So the Clockwork Mansion

[Myrmidon]

Been in the doors 4 hours and I've found Sokolov and put Jindosh in the chair. I believe I've found 3 paintings. Wondering though.... Just how big is the mansion? I'm thinking certain secret areas can only be accessed by different configurations of different lever pools in different locations which is just a massive headache. I'm considering just leaving but also think I'm probably missing so much stuff.... Would be the most I've ever missed.

Anyone give any estimates on how long it took them to do a decent clear out? Maybe not every last coin but a *good* clear?

[huecobros]

On average every mission in DH2 takes about an hour if you are not breezing through, im finding the missions longer than in the first game. I don't collect every coin but i like to get all the bone charms, runes, side missions and paintings and it takes time and trial an error, because you cannot restart any mission.

I had the same thoughts on my first playthrough, you can give yourself enough time to explore or you can just leave knowing you left stuff behind and do another playthrough with the other character some time later like i did.

[deborah]

I'm a bad example. I spent 4 hours in one run and 9 in another (no powers + whale oil bug got me) just on Clockwork Mansion. Didn't get every coin, but got the rest of the pickups. You could use the coin guide in the hub or some of the other collectibles guides online to speed you along. It's fun to play with the levers and see what the house does... there's two hidden small rooms that are worth finding. If you're using Dark Vision, you should be able to figure out where they are.

[Hoppingdeth]

There's and achievement for killing Jindosh without him knowing you were there. Haven't figured that one out yet, but it intrigues me.

[deborah]

Originally posted by Hoppingdeth:

There's and achievement for killing Jindosh without him knowing you were there. Haven't figured that one out yet, but it intrigues me.

I liked doing it that way so much it's the only way to go!

[Nova Solarius]

Originally posted by Hoppingdeth:

There's and achievement for killing Jindosh without him knowing you were there. Haven't figured that one out yet, but it intrigues me.

In the second room, use Blink or Far Reach to get out of the clanker's sight before it activates, then move on from there.

[deborah]

Originally posted by Nova Solarius:

Originally posted by Hoppingdeth:

There's and achievement for killing Jindosh without him knowing you were there. Haven't figured that one out yet, but it intrigues me.

In the second room, use Blink or Far Reach to get out of the clanker's sight before it activates, then move on from there.

@Hoppingdeth There's a better way. I'll let you figure it out.

[Hoppingdeth]

can you go around the outside of the building? Around the back where the vent basically takes you straight in to his lab?!

[Myrmidon]

Originally posted by deborah:

I'm a bad example. I spent 4 hours in one run and 9 in another (no powers + whale oil bug got me) just on Clockwork Mansion. Didn't get every coin, but got the rest of the pickups. You could use the coin guide in the hub or some of the other collectibles guides online to speed you along. It's fun to play with the levers and see what the house does... there's two hidden small rooms that are worth finding. If you're using Dark Vision, you should be able to figure out where they are.

Yeah I'm 50 hours in now (although game on says 30ish) but oh well. So I tend to spend ages on maps. I must say I do like how well hidden some things are in Dishonored 2 even compared to the original Dishonored. Had gotten used to games being dumbed down over the last 12 or so years.

I don't know how much I really care about coins because I don't really use them. I've never bought ammo or equipment in either game, literally the only thing I use my money for is upgrades and even then theres a lot of upgrades I ignore.

As I'm also for the most part a no powers guy (I use blink on the basis that a lot of blinkable places could be climbed if the mechanics allowed) so I always have tons of runes I never use. I get hung up on finding bone charms like yesterday I found Healthy Appetite the basic improved food healer and I thought yes excellent! But then remember actually across both games I've never actually used a Sokolov/S&P Formula so will it really benefit me?

I'm wondering if there's a way onto the roof. I've been about 3 feet away at the right angle but it seems to be skywalled.

[deborah]

Originally posted by Myrmidon:

Originally posted by deborah:

I'm a bad example. I spent 4 hours in one run and 9 in another (no powers + whale oil bug got me) just on Clockwork Mansion. Didn't get every coin, but got the rest of the pickups. You could use the coin guide in the hub or some of the other collectibles guides online to speed you along. It's fun to play with the levers and see what the house does... there's two hidden small rooms that are worth finding. If you're using Dark Vision, you should be able to figure out where they are.

Yeah I'm 50 hours in now (although game on says 30ish) but oh well. So I tend to spend ages on maps. I must say I do like how well hidden some things are in Dishonored 2 even compared to the original Dishonored. Had gotten used to games being dumbed down over the last 12 or so years.

I don't know how much I really care about coins because I don't really use them. I've never bought ammo or equipment in either game, literally the only thing I use my money for is upgrades and even then theres a lot of upgrades I ignore.

As I'm also for the most part a no powers guy (I use blink on the basis that a lot of blinkable places could be climbed if the mechanics allowed) so I always have tons of runes I never use. I get hung up on finding bone charms like yesterday I found Healthy Appetite the basic improved food healer and I thought yes excellent! But then remember actually across both games I've never actually used a Sokolov/S&P Formula so will it really benefit me?

I'm wondering if there's a way onto the roof. I've been about 3 feet away at the right angle but it seems to be skywalled.

I find myself avoiding a lot of powers, too, or at least using them sparingly. Dark Vision is useful, but a little obnoxious. I almost never need the health potion, but I can tear through mana, especially early on. Not sure about the roof - I think I made a half hearted attempt to explore boundaries, and don't recall being able to get to the roof. The view would be stunning because it's a really beautiful sunrise.

[marshmallow justice]

Originally posted by Hoppingdeth:

can you go around the outside of the building? Around the back where the vent basically takes you straight in to his lab?!

No, but that glass in the very first entrance room, before curiosity kills the cat and you pull the lever because "well, there's no other rooms in this place!" is breakable. That's the beginning of the not-alerting-Jindosh route; from there there's two different ways to finish it.

[E-Money]

Originally posted by Myrmidon:

Been in the doors 4 hours and I've found Sokolov and put Jindosh in the chair. I believe I've found 3 paintings. Wondering though.... Just how big is the mansion? I'm thinking certain secret areas can only be accessed by different configurations of different lever pools in different locations which is just a massive headache. I'm considering just leaving but also think I'm probably missing so much stuff.... Would be the most I've ever missed.

Anyone give any estimates on how long it took them to do a decent clear out? Maybe not every last coin but a *good* clear?

Wiki should tell you how much coin per level, and the stats page in the main menu screen will let you know how much you've collected so far.

I wouldnt spend too long in there first play through. The mansion isnt really that big, but can certainly be a bit daunting on your first run. Think I even abandoned a rune on my first try.

[Just Chill]

Originally posted by deborah:

@Hoppingdeth There's a better way. I'll let you figure it out.

Indeed.
But that way don't work without powers.
Somehow I still got through without him knowing my presence.

I let Emily pull the first lever and immediately walked through the door with her, before the Clockwork Soldier even realized Emily was there.

Afterwards, it's tricky, since you go to the great hall with the arc pylon and the guard always pulls it up and somehow Jindosh knows when you activate the elevator, as long as the guard pulled up the arc pylon.

You can avoid that, by going through a window on the left (Emily says something about the "room behind the walls", if you do that).
When this room is followed to the end, you can get to the great hall with the arc pylon, but without the event where the guard pulls it up.

Anyways, I just want to confirm that you can combine the achievement of Jindosh not knowing that you were there, with a Flesh and Steal run.
(I used "Steal" as my Emily is a pretty cleptomaniac XD)

[deborah]

Originally posted by Just Chill:

Originally posted by deborah:

@Hoppingdeth There's a better way. I'll let you figure it out.

Indeed.
But that way don't work without powers.
Somehow I still got through without him knowing my presence. :awkward:

I let Emily pull the first lever and immediately walked through the door with her, before the Clockwork Soldier even realized Emily was there.

Afterwards, it's tricky, since you go to the great hall with the arc pylon and the guard always pulls it up and somehow Jindosh knows when you activate the elevator, as long as the guard pulled up the arc pylon.

You can avoid that, by going through a window on the left (Emily says something about the "room behind the walls", if you do that).
When this room is followed to the end, you can get to the great hall with the arc pylon, but without the event where the guard pulls it up.

Anyways, I just want to confirm that you can combine the achievement of Jindosh not knowing that you were there, with a Flesh and Steal run.
(I used "Steal" as my Emily is a pretty cleptomaniac XD)

That's how I did it with no powers, but I didn't think we were talking about a no powers run. Regardless, marshmallow decided to just tell him instead of letting him get the joy of discovery.

[Myrmidon]

Originally posted by Prince Rahl:

I just finished my first run through the clockwork mansion yesterday... I became obsessed with "the spaces between the walls".

I'd activate the levers/buttons to change the configuration and use Blink to get to areas that were nowhere near where the lever was or to the concrete "inner halls" between and around the moveable rooms/sections.
Started finding ways to move around by just doing that and almost never showing my face in the "regular" areas.
I spent HOURS and I'm sure I didn't see everything. That place really is as impressive as the characters in the game think it is

Yeah the level is almost so complex that I want to give up now I've finished the two objectives. It's like frustrating abstract tetris. I probably could find all those rooms but hours and hours of trial and error and coffee and pulling my hair out.

[Montana]

Originally posted by Nova Solarius:

Originally posted by Hoppingdeth:

There's and achievement for killing Jindosh without him knowing you were there. Haven't figured that one out yet, but it intrigues me.

In the second room, use Blink or Far Reach to get out of the clanker's sight before it activates, then move on from there.

In the second room (counting the entrance with the recording as first), where you find the lever, look up. You can crossbow the glass ceiling and blink/farreach up. He'll never see you if you don't take out clankers or pull levers.

Once you're in Jindosh's lab, you can hide directly opposite from him and snipe his ass (lethal and non-lethal both work.)