Dishonored 2

Dishonored 2

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Xialoh Apr 28, 2017 @ 1:20am
Killing these witches really shouldn't raise chaos..
Just got to the observatory and holy ****, it seems like it would be a crime to let these witches live.

Honestly, how does it make sense that killing these torturing serial killers raises chaos? It's all I can do here to refrain, but I don't want a bad ending so...not much choice. Ugh.
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lostsomething Apr 28, 2017 @ 1:41am 
Could be they're not in their right minds. Their power comes directly from Delilah but maybe that's not all that comes with it. Considering the root of Delilah's power is the ability to reframe the world to the way she believes it should be maybe her witches get remade as well into something resembling her idea of what an ideal witch / follower should be.
Dreadnought Apr 28, 2017 @ 3:23am 
Originally posted by lostsomething:
Could be they're not in their right minds. Their power comes directly from Delilah but maybe that's not all that comes with it. Considering the root of Delilah's power is the ability to reframe the world to the way she believes it should be maybe her witches get remade as well into something resembling her idea of what an ideal witch / follower should be.

kind of like the mantion ?
SomeUnregPunk Apr 28, 2017 @ 7:21am 
Originally posted by lostsomething:
Could be they're not in their right minds. Their power comes directly from Delilah but maybe that's not all that comes with it. Considering the root of Delilah's power is the ability to reframe the world to the way she believes it should be maybe her witches get remade as well into something resembling her idea of what an ideal witch / follower should be.

yeah I think that what the devs want you to think. If you sit and listen to the few that talk to each other, you do get that impression.
Transphobic Apr 28, 2017 @ 7:51pm 
I made a certain bone charm, every witch is a complete joke. Even Delilah, just oh look she teleported, kick in face.

Also, more killing turns into more flys
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Xialoh Apr 30, 2017 @ 3:22am 
Originally posted by lostsomething:
Could be they're not in their right minds. Their power comes directly from Delilah but maybe that's not all that comes with it. Considering the root of Delilah's power is the ability to reframe the world to the way she believes it should be maybe her witches get remade as well into something resembling her idea of what an ideal witch / follower should be.
Well that would certainly make me less inclined to kill them. I even remember sparing a few witches when I was playing Knife of Dunwall because I got that impression, actually. Some of them don't actually seem that bad. Yet, at the same time:

1. The idea that they're essentially being mind controlled is only speculation.

2. There are no witch containment cells as far as I know. You can't very well leave this task up to the legal authorities, nevermind that no one else is capable of bringing down the witches anyway.

3. These women are kidnapping and torturing people to death for dark rituals, and possibly even just because they can. Leaving them alive means they're going to keep doing that, creating more bloodflies, sending more people bloodflies in the mail, deliberately setting up more bloodfly nests, and doing whatever else they do.

Really no matter how I look at it, killing them isn't a bad thing. Not killing them is a bad thing in just about every scenario. Except the game said killing the mass murdering cult is creating chaos. Personally, I kind of wish the game used a sensible system, wherein when you present the player with someone that clearly needs to be killed - if only because they're an immediate threat to everyone they meet - it doesn't raise chaos to off them. You'd literally be making the world a better place if not for the stats saying otherwise.
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lobstermadness Apr 30, 2017 @ 5:10am 
Xiloh makes excellent points. The devs see the witches as "victims because followers in a cult" but there is a good argument that they are perpertrators.
lostsomething Apr 30, 2017 @ 5:50am 
Speculation that fits with all other data given in game though. This is, after all, Delilah's end plan for everyone. The only part about it Delilah was ever unsure of was whether she could do it on the scale of the entire empire at once. It'd also go some distance towards explaining why they dress and talk like Thief's pagans despite there being no analagous culture in Dishonored's world and them in fact being just random girls recruited from within the empire - it's all part of Delilah's vision of what a proper witch should be like.

Not really sure where you're going with 2 and 3 - removing Delilah means no more witchcraft for her followers. Right mind or no they'll be powerless after.
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Date Posted: Apr 28, 2017 @ 1:20am
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