Crusaders of the Lost Idols

Crusaders of the Lost Idols

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OrangeMade Jan 16, 2016 @ 1:06pm
Event Chests - Deciding what to earn
Okay it's less than three days left, I'm at 4k+ Sunscreen I have not opened my previous Event Free Play Chests so I don't know what I could be getting.

(And this is my first event, so I know I'm not great at this yet :steamhappy: )

Some quick math 120 Sunscreen an hour nets about ~8.5k by event end bringing me to 12k+, or enough to purchase a Jeweled Event Chest.

But should I?

I could also run 5 Free Plays after my current one, netting 5 more plain event chests ( I Highly doubt I'd be lucky enough for a jeweled one).


Either way, I intend to open my Chests at the last possible moment, when I'm at the highest level I can be before resetting.



So I am leaning one way, but could easily be swayed with some good solid reasons, but I'd like to hear both sides from other palyers.

Hmm, and there is that achievement to consider, spending sunscreens, not there yet . . .
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SamiJM Jan 16, 2016 @ 1:27pm 
Why aren't you opening the event chests exactly? There's no gold in them so there's no reason to wait. Anyways, it's hard to advise you one way or the other without knowing what you already have.
OrangeMade Jan 16, 2016 @ 1:54pm 
Well, first I was not aware that there was no gold in them, so thank you!

Second, if I haven't opened any of them, why would I have ANY items, to inform you of?

And as for reasons, well, I've always found that I get better items - trinkets, gear, gold, buffs, etc. when I open the Silver chests in later levels, rather than earlier ones. So I tend to save them for either when I'm frustrated and want to level someone NOW, or just before resetting for the better items, and to quickly level my ignored characters up to get more idols. Would you rather have a 30 minute Delorean, or a 4 hour Time Turner?


And lastly, I did say this is my First Event, so I've just been playing for barely two weeks, and not very seriously as all that. I DO NOT KNOW certain things that long time players take for granted.


Assume I am ignorant asking for help - which I am. Do not assume I am stupid - I am not.

Since the game is relatively new, and still a work in progress, I wil not assume that what was true for other events is still true now. The Jeweled Chests explain their contents - the plain ones don't. So do they always contain gear? What rarity when they do? Or is it better in the long run to focus on achievements, since I won't always use the Crusaders? There are many, many, many other questions at play and I don't know which ones to ask.

So I ask for general opinions on what people would do based only the framework of what I can potentially spend, versus what I can potentially earn.


I hope that clarifies why I asked what I did. And again, thank you for telling me that there is no gold.
SamiJM Jan 16, 2016 @ 2:12pm 
Okay.

The silver event chests can only contain common-rare gear, no epics. They always contain one piece of gear for the event crusaders and two other random boosts or trinkets (Except for warps. Silver chests - event or not - never contain warps.)

Also, I don't know if you're aware of it or not, but using warps gives you more event tokens (sunscreens). So you can always use them if you need some more tokens.

Thinking that you get better items out of the chests at higher levels is not entirely accurate. Yes, you get more gold from the chests the higher you are. But you do not get better items the higher you are. It's totally random. However, you're allowed to be superstitious and believe whatever you want.

As for as advice for how to spend the sunscreens, I suggest doing freeplays if you have any empty gear slots for the event crusaders after you open the chests. However, if you open the chests and have gear in every slot, you may want to spend the sunscreens on jeweled chests to get better gear to go in those slots. Yes, there's a chance that doing the freeplays could give you a jeweled chest, but it doesn't happen very often (I've only had 1 turned jeweled out of the 8 or so runs I've done).
OrangeMade Jan 16, 2016 @ 3:55pm 
Thank you again, I had forgotten the bit about warps giving event items, so I welcome the reminder.

However, I'm currently sitting on 11 different rarity warp cards. (Absolutely horrible in every game about using 'special' items.) I certainly have NOT opened 11 normal Jeweled Chests. I do thnk I may have gotten two of them from the same jewelled chest once, or was that Gold Drop Rate. . . Dangit, the Play History doesn't go back far enough to correct my faulty memory :zombiehead: in which I am sure you are correct, being the more experienced player.

hmm, 100 Rubies x 2 for the two I've completed + ~20days X ~20R average guestimate = 600 Rubies + 1 upgrade jeweld chest for 7 normal Jchests. For 6 opened JChests. So sue me, I like math, even if I don't apply it right.


And while I enjoy playing up to superstition, I don't generally believe in them. What I do believe in is Weighted Drop Tables. I also believe in Randomization. I only just got my first Splash buff 2-3 days ago, and now have 3. Out of nearly 20 days. I don't think those should be all that rare.


Still I think your advice is very good, and will consider it carefully as I make up my mind what to do at the end of this Free Play run.
Horse Jan 16, 2016 @ 9:07pm 
if it was me i would go for the freeplay chests get to 15 idols reset and take the chest just got 2 jeweled chests doing that
AJ, Lord of Chaos Jan 17, 2016 @ 3:30am 
Originally posted by OrangeMade:
Okay it's less than three days left, I'm at 4k+ Sunscreen I have not opened my previous Event Free Play Chests so I don't know what I could be getting.

(And this is my first event, so I know I'm not great at this yet :steamhappy: )

Some quick math 120 Sunscreen an hour nets about ~8.5k by event end bringing me to 12k+, or enough to purchase a Jeweled Event Chest.

But should I?

I could also run 5 Free Plays after my current one, netting 5 more plain event chests ( I Highly doubt I'd be lucky enough for a jeweled one).


Either way, I intend to open my Chests at the last possible moment, when I'm at the highest level I can be before resetting.



So I am leaning one way, but could easily be swayed with some good solid reasons, but I'd like to hear both sides from other palyers.

Hmm, and there is that achievement to consider, spending sunscreens, not there yet . . .

Go for small chests. There's a good chance they'll convert to jeweled and you'll get idols too by resetting.
DatFancy Jan 17, 2016 @ 11:46am 
Spending suncreen on the jeweled event chests is a waste of suncreen.
11,250 suncreen is required for BUYING a JEWELED chest
2,500 suncreen is required for going through freeplay, earning you, IDOLS and a CHANCE for a jewled.

I earn a jeweled event chest about every other time I reset for free play, so its WAY more worth it to go through free play, its a nice way to earn idols easily, while still getting you jewled chests, at a lower price, free play is the way to go, but do what u please :)
OrangeMade Jan 17, 2016 @ 12:11pm 
Okay, thank you everyone :D:

The consensus seems to be that Quantity is better than Quality.


And congrats to everyone who's gotten a J-Chests. 5 Freeplays for me and I haven't gotten one, but thats how RNG goes. Even normal silver chests only my first ever transformed to a J-Chest.

Then again, I've apparently gotten warps from silvers when that's not possible??? Ah well, it's a fun game, so I won't stress.

Thanks again!


(And if anyone wants to discuss this further go right ahead! I'm just letting all of you know I've made my decision ^_^ )
SamiJM Jan 17, 2016 @ 12:23pm 
Regular jeweled chests can contain up to 3 warps each. That's probably how you have so many.
SamiJM Jan 17, 2016 @ 12:26pm 
Also, normal silver chests transform into jeweled at a rate of 1% (except your second silver chest ever, that one always turns jeweled). So don't be bummed if you don't get many of them that way :)
DatFancy Jan 17, 2016 @ 12:30pm 
Originally posted by SamiJM:
Also, normal silver chests transform into jeweled at a rate of 1% (except your second silver chest ever, that one always turns jeweled). So don't be bummed if you don't get many of them that way :)
ive gotten like 5 :D im ♥♥♥♥♥♥ lucky i guess :D
OrangeMade Jan 17, 2016 @ 1:07pm 
Originally posted by SamiJM:
Regular jeweled chests can contain up to 3 warps each. That's probably how you have so many.

See, I'm very curious now.

Checking my Achievemnts, I've only opened 5 Jeweled Chests. I have a vague memory of ONCE getting a double of the same type of gold buff - but that could be the warp or the drop boost. I am also pretty sure two of the JChests had neither type of gold buff.

But I cannot be certain of my own memory.

So being curious - and annoyingly detail over focused - I'm going to keep written track of all my Chests. (Not going to post it anywhere, just a personal log).

So I can prove to my own satisfaction that YOU are right.



Bleh, now I have to work doubly hard to not record ALL the details. ( Like gold to dps ratios per level ). A sad pointless part of me just keeps wondering if I can figure out the formulas... Which would totaly take out 90 % of the fun for me. Weeeell, other than the limited fun of using those old math skills for once and solving a 'real-life example'.
DatFancy Jan 17, 2016 @ 2:06pm 
bro, just enjoy the game xD
TopazMystique Jan 16, 2017 @ 3:59pm 
Originally posted by SamiJM:
Thinking that you get better items out of the chests at higher levels is not entirely accurate. Yes, you get more gold from the chests the higher you are. But you do not get better items the higher you are. It's totally random. However, you're allowed to be superstitious and believe whatever you want.
I have searched through the discussions and could not find anything from devs as to whether this is true or not... but I could have missed their comments. I know that on one event I opened all of my event chests at the beginning of the objective after finishing the last event freeplay and all I got was poorer gear. Not something I want to repeat so unless the devs say "yay" or "nay", I'll remain "superstitious" and open them at the end of the first run after the event.

Another "superstition" I'm sticking with is opening lots of event jeweled chests at once. It seems that if I open one event jeweled chest at a time, I tend to get poorer gear than if I open a lot of event jeweled chests at once.
AngoraFish Jan 16, 2017 @ 4:28pm 
Originally posted by TopazMystique:
I have searched through the discussions and could not find anything from devs as to whether this is true or not... but I could have missed their comments.

Another "superstition" I'm sticking with is opening lots of event jeweled chests at once. It seems that if I open one event jeweled chest at a time, I tend to get poorer gear than if I open a lot of event jeweled chests at once.

It's pretty hard to "prove" a negative. Also, google confirmation bias.

All of SamiJM's advice is 100% correct and I endorse his message. :ss13ok:
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