Postal (1997) VS Postal Redux

[Past Times Were Had as a Gamer]

Which do you feel is the superior game, and what pros and cons do these games both share, that were improved or dis-proved in Redux. In my opinion Redux is good, I just feel disappointed that the original ending was not intact.

[Trick]

The only thing that I miss in redux are the screams of pain from the hostiles and civilians.
Also including those where they beg for mercy.

[Past Times Were Had as a Gamer]

Originally posted by Trickstabber:

The only thing that I miss in redux are the screams of pain from the hostiles and civilians.
Also including those where they beg for mercy.

Yeah that's another thing I miss, the enteties aren't really as vocal as they were in the original.

[C1S]

Postal '97 has a grittier look to it, the art isn't as colorful and most of the level loading screens are more abstract as well as acidic in appearance, as if they'd burn your hand if you reached out and touched them. Blood is more dirty and messier looking. The lack of texture mapping on the cruder looking characters leads to a less-than-human look, like a vague representation of humanity despite sounding very realistically like people, making it creepy to hear them in pain and suffering/dying. Sound design is generally better (guns, bullet ricochet, people screaming and suffering) and lends a rawer tone to the already dry and tasteless looking aesthetic. Most controversial however is the original ending that isn't in the Redux at all, and which ending you like more is a matter of preference.

There's something about the atmosphere in the original Postal that I find more surreal and eerie than in the Redux. That said, the Redux has it beat in every other department regarding controls, feedback and the overall presentation (the reduction in noise pollution from NPCs yelling the same lines over and over is also welcome). Both games are still very similar in the overall experience and it's just a matter of preference. I personally like the original more but the Redux is still good and will hopefully see to having more improvements over the original over time.

[Purzel2205]

"Sound design is generally better (guns)"
the machine gun sounds like a laser gun in the original

[Tiffany A.]

there was also the Nokia mobile POSTAL game in 2009 published by GlobalFun and developed by some Russian guys which was a brilliant game. doesn't really get a look-in (not even by RWS) but it's a really fun game, on the same level of brilliance as the original POSTAL. Though Redux tops both of them by a decent margin, I have to say.

[L0G1STX aka MAGA Man]

I got over the original ending LONG AGO. I have great respect for RWS as devs so i have ultimate confidence their decision was for the best. And redux is definitely the superior game. It's the hatred killer! Even Hatred had to come here to promote their FPS mod, like a bunch of jealous babies! LMAO.
Anyway Redux is the better of the two because of 1) graphics 2) sound 3) controls are smoother 4) story is developed a bit more 5) rampage mode is finally fixed
And yo, the updates make it just that much better.
That doesen't mean I dislike the original. I've owned it like 30 different times since I was 6 years old, so....

[L0G1STX aka MAGA Man]

Originally posted by SPMC CTG:

Originally posted by Trickstabber:

The only thing that I miss in redux are the screams of pain from the hostiles and civilians.
Also including those where they beg for mercy.

Yeah that's another thing I miss, the enteties aren't really as vocal as they were in the original.

this has been fixed in the new updates, check the patch notes. it was a glitch. some voice clips were not playing now they are.

[B Dawg]

Originally posted by J'Mar DeDos El Medio:

And redux is definitely the superior game. It's the hatred killer!

Hatred killer? Hah. Good joke man

[468528456]

Originally posted by J'Mar DeDos El Medio:

It's the hatred killer! Even Hatred had to come here to promote their FPS mod, like a bunch of jealous babies! LMAO.

Dude, don't be that guy. Hatred and Redux are both awesome and benefit from mutual cooperation.

[B Dawg]

Originally posted by 468528456:

Originally posted by J'Mar DeDos El Medio:

It's the hatred killer! Even Hatred had to come here to promote their FPS mod, like a bunch of jealous babies! LMAO.

Dude, don't be that guy. Hatred and Redux are both awesome and benefit from mutual cooperation.

^ Listen to this man.

[C1S]

Hatred doesn't have co-op though. Or care put into fixing broken ♥♥♥♥.

[Vile Sentry]

Originally posted by 468528456:

Originally posted by J'Mar DeDos El Medio:

It's the hatred killer! Even Hatred had to come here to promote their FPS mod, like a bunch of jealous babies! LMAO.

Dude, don't be that guy. Hatred and Redux are both awesome and benefit from mutual cooperation.

I disagree with the idea that hatred is an "awesome game" but I do agree that they can both benifet eachother. It seems that guy wasn't aware that RWS also went to the hatred forums to promote their game. I mean it's silly to pretend they are not similiar and even sillier to think that one somehow cancels out the other.

I put hatred in the same catagory as Jaws unleashed. An annoyingly badly made game with lazier later levels but worth puting up with since nothing really exists that fills that same void. Yes postal is great but I don't get to burn down houses or ram a car into a shopping mall in postal, or gta, or state of emergency.

I'm coming to learn that bad games are often remembered for what they are rather than what they lacked. So many of the games that were originally panned are now being sought after because of how one of a kind they were (maybe fact that their failure often detered others from following in it's path)

Originally posted by cyan0s1s:

Hatred doesn't have co-op though. Or care put into fixing broken ♥♥♥♥.

Fixing it would be nice too, but atleast modders are trying to make it into a better game. I kind of wish the devs cared enough to do that, instead of making a lazy rail shooter (without rails?) and slapping "isis" in the title as some lazy way of creating word of mouth.

[468528456]

Originally posted by cyan0s1s:

Hatred doesn't have co-op though..

You are correct...Hatred does not have any form of co...Op. Heh.

[B Dawg]

Well, what is actually broken in Hatred that needs to be fixed? As far as I remember gameplay wise, it has 2 minor bugs that have a very low chance of ever showing up (being teleported at the end of an execution to another location and not being able to run over people with your car if they survived the 1st attempt), and some weird execution animations quirks? (but if you're really bothered about those, there's always the Pre Survival build of the game available via the Beta section)

Anyways, expect some of that 'mutual cooperation' to show up in Redux ;) Make love, not war.

[468528456]

Originally posted by B Dawg Ⓢ:

Well, what is actually broken in Hatred that needs to be fixed? As far as I remember gameplay wise, it has 2 minor bugs that have a very low chance of ever showing up (being teleported at the end of an execution to another location and not being able to run over people with your car if they survived the 1st attempt), and some weird execution animations quirks?

Nothing actually. The execution thing is actually an improvement in that they added Ragdoll physics. If you look at the pre-survival build, the dead are all stiff (no pun intended) which isn't very lifelike. Watching people fall in the EXACT same manner over and over again can become somewhat distracting.

Originally posted by B Dawg Ⓢ:

Anyways, expect some of that 'mutual cooperation' to show up in Redux ;) Make love, not war.

This guy gets it.