POSTAL Redux

POSTAL Redux

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Michanicks Aug 6, 2021 @ 4:13am
Rampage A+ requirements are way too high
I tried to Perfect "Parade" level for four hours (it's a lot of tries for 3min level when there is 20 more similiar and much harder levels) and didn't succed. I killed 70+ targets in the row many times and that was just A or A-, so game is clearly expect me to make it flawless, but there is several problems with it:

1) Devs tried to copy Hotline Miami system but did it not as balanced and as results every stat except the very first one is absolutely useless and does not affect the score much. Ground covered? 10.000. Executions? 9.000. Time bonus? 21.000. I switching weapons as crazy after each kill and what do i get? Just 100.000?
I need 5.000.000 points, so these bonuses don't matter at all, only killing streak itself does;

2) Random - you need executions for higher multiplier and to help keep your streak, and that's totally random. If you watch RWS videos, you can notice player wouln't be able to get A+ without some lucky placed executions. And civilians AI can pass as RNG as well;

3) Even fire double kill abuse doesn't help me much! How it's even possible to abuse unintended mechanic that's allow you to kill twice as many targets and still don't get a highest score? But if that is intended, that's even worse, since you actually supposed to do more kills than there is actual targets on the level to get the highest score;

4) It's hardest achievement for wrong reasons. I was able to beat nightmare difficulty, to beat co-op difficulty solo, to speedrun the game simultaneously without killing any civilians and i still stuck on 4th Rampage level for hours. it's rarest achievement in Steam, on Playstation only 2 (literally) people were able to A+ all levels.
That's way too hard for gamemode tied to randomness and poor scoring system.

Last reason is personal: it's just too stressful for me to continue, it's main reason of why i have to give up. It's sad I'll never be able to 100% even a single postal game.
Last edited by Michanicks; Apr 24, 2023 @ 12:15am
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Running With Scissors [S]  [developer] Aug 6, 2021 @ 5:01pm 
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A+ means flawless, yes. That's the point.

I'm just going to ignore your first point because it's simply ridiculous. Of course the kill streak is the highest scored bonus, it's hard to keep it going, haha

Parade is one of the simplest levels to get an A+ on, so I'm really surprised you weren't able to get "lucky placed executions" as you put it at least once. Selecting the perfect route will get you 90% there: https://youtu.be/j5UOn0MlP9Q?t=462
Michanicks Aug 6, 2021 @ 5:35pm 
Originally posted by Running With Scissors S:
I'm just going to ignore your first point because it's simply ridiculous. Of course the kill streak is the highest scored bonus, it's hard to keep it going, haha
It's harder to switch weapon after each kill than to use best weapon all the time, but reward for variety is ridiculously small.

That's bad you ignored the point, because the point is: variety reward is SO small, it's doesn't affect the score, you can just ignore it completely. I've tried to A+ first 3 levels with variety kill - didn't succeed, stopped to switch weapons - eventually got highest grade by pure luck.

And if I can't even get A+ on one of the simplest level, then I am unable to A+ Rampage mode at all :steamsad:
Last edited by Michanicks; Apr 24, 2023 @ 12:17am
Soul Aug 12, 2021 @ 3:05pm 
Originally posted by Michanicks:
Originally posted by Running With Scissors S:
I'm just going to ignore your first point because it's simply ridiculous. Of course the kill streak is the highest scored bonus, it's hard to keep it going, haha
It's harder to switch weapon after each kill than to use best weapon all the time, but reward is ridiculous.

Too bad you ignored the point, because the point is: variety reward is SO small, it's doesn't affect the score, you can just ignore it completely. I've tried to A+ first 3 levels with variety kill - didn't succeed, stopped to switch weapons - eventually got highest grade by pure luck.

If I can't even get A+ on one of the simplest level, then I am unable to A+ Rampage mode at all :steamsad:
I did all A+ ranks (finished 1st of this month) and I didn't find it that difficult, except for Parade. Some levels don't even require a full combo, you can drop it and still get the A+.

If you set enemies on fire, you get a combo multiplier, and if you kill them after you get another. You can get 2x multiplier from 1 enemy by doing this, that's the secret to beating Parade. You have Molotovs and you start right next to a Flamethrower (and about 30 people), just go to town with the flamethrower and then switch weapons and kill them. I remember I had a combo of around 110 when I finished the level.

EDIT: If you really think fire kill abuse doesn't help that much, you are doing it wrong.
Last edited by Soul; Aug 12, 2021 @ 3:07pm
AleK Aug 22, 2021 @ 8:31am 
isn't the point of an achievement to have ACHIEVED something?
Michanicks Aug 22, 2021 @ 11:16am 
Originally posted by AleK:
isn't the point of an achievement to have ACHIEVED something?
Isn't point of good and fair achievement to be good and fair?
You can't use the dictionary meanings of words to justify anything. Some games require you to being extremely lucky and having the developer of the game being on the server, some games require you literally make your first step, in both cases you have to achieve something yet still both cases are complete whack.

Why you protecting that achaievement yet you didn't even achieve it yourself? I was able to get every single achievement except that one, THAT'S why i am complaining.
AleK Aug 22, 2021 @ 11:57am 
i haven't achieved it because i don't care that much about it, i don't get mad that a little number doesn't say 100% because i'm not good enough
Michanicks Aug 22, 2021 @ 12:02pm 
Originally posted by AleK:
i haven't achieved it because i don't care that much about it, i don't get mad that a little number doesn't say 100% because i'm not good enough
So you don't care about it - of course you don't see a problem, haha. People often ignore, underrate and misunderstood things they don't care about.
AleK Aug 22, 2021 @ 12:07pm 
reminder that the original postal has an achievement to launch the game on mac or linux, good luck doing that without having one handy or knowing how to use a virtual machine i guess
Michanicks Aug 22, 2021 @ 12:16pm 
Originally posted by AleK:
reminder that the original postal has an achievement to launch the game on mac or linux, good luck doing that without having one handy or knowing how to use a virtual machine i guess
That achievement didn't annoy me at all, i mostly don't care about getting 100% achievements in games.
It's just In Postal Redux i have only one last achievement left with HUGE difficulty spike, that's why it's annoyed me so hard.
Last edited by Michanicks; Aug 22, 2021 @ 12:25pm
Don't be a SISSY.
Michanicks Sep 5, 2021 @ 3:46am 
Originally posted by 【λ】lambda【λ】:
Don't be a SISSY.
I am, but i regret nothing.
Imaginary High Oct 30, 2021 @ 11:47am 
scrub
Michanicks Oct 30, 2021 @ 12:47pm 
Originally posted by Sourveid:
scrub
Nice too meet you, scrub, i'm Michanicks.
CalicoJack Oct 30, 2021 @ 7:48pm 
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ThePostalDude Aug 8, 2022 @ 4:33pm 
Getting A+ isn't hard at all once you get the rhythm for it, all you really got to do is just play super aggressive and learn how to switch weapons on the fly.

And I don't really what you mean by random... Executions aren't the only the only way to prolong your combo, you can set enemies on fire and leave them burning. Once they fully burn out they reset your combo timer and this allows you to traverse the map with more ease. This is really useful on mines.

Also, Hotline Miami isn't the only game with a combo system lel.
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