Stay Away from this company they are harassing and threatening people for money

[King Hadu]

The thread can be found here, this company the foundary is very unprofessional they are sending threatening and harassing emails to people accusing everyone even legitimate people of using not legitimate copies and asking for $12,000 to $25,000 in compensation

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=1151366

Not even Autodesk does this nonsense, this is the most unprofessional behavior I have ever seen in my life.

They are also spying on you illegally aswell!!! Everything can be found in that thread with full testimony. Even IF Autodesk suspects a small Indie company or a free lancer is using pirated software they either ask you to buy the software or simply ignore it because they know the more people using their software the better it is for them.

This Foundry does no such thing what they are doing is infact going around using the spyware built into MODO and sending threatening emails demanding $12,000 to $25,000 in compensation and they expect you to just pay this money. The majority of people take it to their lawyers where the lawyers then say DO NOT respond to the emails from the Fountry.

[Dio]

just read the post u linked, and well i cant say if its legit but people there seem to say so.
Id still like to see a statement on that from Blade ... False accusations are no fun imho ...

[DarranJones]

I love how people read stuff on public forums and take it as gospel

[King Hadu]

Actually if you read into a few pages you will see it has been confirmed by many people, they have also contacted the foundry directly and they have confirmed the email is legitimate.

This is very unprofessional behavior from the foundry, I am waiting to see how far the foundry is willing to take this it is one thing to try a nigerian scam on people but actually taking them to court is another thing.

When Autodesk wants to sue someone it is usually big companies who are profiting big time, and even the Autodesk does an Audit and requests some info from you to cross reference it with their files to make sure its not an administration error on their part. In cases of Indie companies they either request you buy the software or they don't bother if its not worth their time.

They don't try to pull a nigerian scam on people. Very ashamed at the behavior of the foundry here and these are the people claiming to support Indie Devs? ha now thas a joke

[King Hadu]

Originally posted by one batch two batch penny n dime:

just read the post u linked, and well i cant say if its legit but people there seem to say so.
Id still like to see a statement on that from Blade ... False accusations are no fun imho ...

I am hoping for a response from a foundry dev here to see what this is about because on that link there are promiment long standing members of the CG forum who has provided testimony on this aswell, it isn't just a random forum post if you read into a few pages you will see.

Everybody can't be lying.

If this is indeed true which I actually believe it is, it will do the foundry well to know that even in the event there are people pirating MODO and I am of the belief there are hundreds of thousands of people pirating modo just like everyother software.

My suggestion is to act professional in the matter, Autodesk suffers from People stealing their software aswell but they understand that the more people use their software the stronger they become. Which is why for over a decade Autodesk knew freelancers and indie devs were pirating their software but did nothing in the hopes when they become big they would pay for all their software which turns out is usually what happens.

No one is saying that The foundry shouldn't defend their software but you need to do it in a professional manner not a nigerian scam manner.

[King Hadu]

A little message to the foundry, you cannot go around alienating Indie devs and freelancers just because you may have info they pirated your MODO.

Autodesk is well aware of all the people who pirate their software but Autodesk never operates in this unprofessional manner. They know when to act and know when to stay out, sueing a free lancer will get you nowhere this is why Autodesk has never done it, further more exposing names and emails of indie studios and free lancers will only cause other potential customers to not come anywhere near your product.

All this is going to do is force people onto MAYA LT or Blender 3D.

[Pangolin Legends: Arceus]

We are not allowed to discuss piracy on these discussion boards, it's stated in the rules of the steam discussions, so if your thread gets deleted don't think it's censorship.

Also I think it would have been more professional to not state the allegations as fact in your title, whatever evidence there appears to be.

[King Hadu]

^ This is not about that, what you are suggesting.

This is about The Foundation trying to black mail people without proof and even worse they are exposing your company of doing illegal activities without any proof to back it up.

You don't go around sending out emails with tons of email address in the same line and make it public that you think X indie company is conducting illegal activities.

A professional company orders an Audit, they deal with you confedential about matters like this. The foundation is telling everybody you are stealing their software without providing any sort of proof they are infact black mailing people.

[JohnRampa]

I only read few posts here and there (that thread was originally from 2014!), and all I saw that there were actual people who had pirated/cracked Nuke or Modo and were wondering why they got caught.

To be clear, I don't think there is any tools provider today, that doesn't have a part in the EULA that requires you to allow the tool provider to snoop some data from your computer. Autodesk has this, game engines has this, game distribution platforms has this, I'd be really surprized if there weren't such on Foundrys apps.

As far as I can tell from that thread, only people who had gotten caught red handed were complaining about this, so honest people shouldn't have anything to worry about / reason to avoid Foundry products because of that (even if the accusations of the Foundry snooping on the use of their own products were true).

[King Hadu]

^ i think you are missing the point here, The foundry is illegally spying and illegally collecting data from your PC this is against the law a henious crime at that.

[JohnRampa]

Yes, I'm totally missing the point. Almost all software providers do that (and it's usually mentioned some way in the EULA too).

I'm also missing the point why would people who pay for their software would need to avoid the Foundry products? Could you tell this in a way it makes some sense? If you are warning all the pirates to stay away, then that's only a positive thing I guess :D

[JohnRampa]

Also, you accuse the Foundry for doing something illegal here, yet you don't have any proof or evidence for that. It's not cool to accuse people for committing a crime especially when the only party most likely being guilty in that are the people who are here complaining about this (at least on that thread).

Have you actually read the licenses of these softwares before you started using them? Your country has some law that tells a company can't collect usage data of their own software, even if they give you option to not accept the terms? You use Windows 10?

[King Hadu]

spying on people is illegal there is no debate here. It is against the law to steal information from people it is against the law to do pretty much everything that the foundry is doing here.

you clearly do not understand the law.

And FYI if you bothered to read the thread you would see promiment members of the forum have posted the every same thing.

Let me guess everybody is lying right?

[JohnRampa]

Since you refer to law all the time here, have you actually read any of your countrys law and seen what they tell about situations like these? Have you read the license agreements you have to agree before you use software?

I know I have. I also don't base any of my knownledge on licenses and laws on what random people tell on the internet, they are usually 95% full BS, no offence. I've seen even forum mods (not on this forum) and respectable forum members talking things that have had no basis on reality and that happens all the time. What I'm telling you here now, is that you should really, really check your facts before you go on a crusade like this and spam Steam forums warnings about Foundry like this:

http://steamcommunity.com/app/433930/discussions/0/359543951702666686/
http://steamcommunity.com/app/365670/discussions/0/359543951702654329/

Btw, do yourself a favor and read what autodesk has on their license since you refer to them so often.

[Kamil]

Originally posted by King Hadu:

The thread can be found here, this company the foundary is very unprofessional they are sending threatening and harassing emails to people accusing everyone even legitimate people of using not legitimate copies and asking for $12,000 to $25,000 in compensation

He have ilegal copy and he cry becouse they find him....

Originally posted by King Hadu:

Not even Autodesk does this nonsense, this is the most unprofessional behavior I have ever seen in my life.

Autodesk do this same especialy looking on students copy...

Originally posted by King Hadu:

They are also spying on you illegally aswell!!!

Yes by RLM but you accept this this is same happen with Autodesk products... Well this is not illegal.

Originally posted by King Hadu:

They are also spying on you illegally aswell!!! Everything can be found in that thread with full testimony. Even IF Autodesk suspects a small Indie company or a free lancer is using pirated software they either ask you to buy the software or simply ignore it because they know the more people using their software the better it is for them.

In some case if i remember Foundry do the same but if you delete all email and you do not want to help yourself this ♥♥♥♥ happens.

Originally posted by King Hadu:

This Foundry does no such thing what they are doing is infact going around using the spyware built into MODO and sending threatening emails demanding $12,000 to $25,000 in compensation and they expect you to just pay this money. The majority of people take it to their lawyers where the lawyers then say DO NOT respond to the emails from the Fountry.

You are accept licence where Foundry can check your ip etc. btw they not use spyware but they employ people like "Licence Compliance Investigator" for searching people whos using piratet copy for comercial use only this...
Same think do Autodesk...

Summary if you pay for software you do not have trouble with all this kind of ♥♥♥♥...
Software is good? Buy it.

[Dio]

This conversation went totally ad absurdum, on the point of sueing innocent indie devs for THINGS they HAVENT DONE i totally agree that this is ♥♥♥♥. But you just step in and do something that sounds like defending pirating of software, which UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES is not okay.
There is absolutetly no excuse for that, if your a grown up - you got money save it up and get what you want, if your a student of some kind - you get a job in holidays or so and save up for the indie version of your desired product as that is probably enough, and if your a little child - you dont need software ... and if all of this turns you off ... get blender ... if you dont like it and know how it would be better, well graphicslibraries etc. are out there for free so write your own programm ... [then sell it after a gazzilion hours of work, seeing it getting pirated and be totally ok - as you dont need money anyways]

so yeah if needed ♥♥♥♥ over indie devs that steal what belongs to you in the hope that some of the other will get their brain to work.
what happened to mankind, that i have to tell (pseudo)grown-ups that its not okay to steal? that should be common sense ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.