Nintendo and copyrighted content

[RandomGamePlayer]

copyrighted content like models, maps, textures, sounds are only meant to be enjoyed within their games, by reuploading them to gmod, you're stealing from the artists and desecrating their artwork, guys it's immoral

An argument several people have brung up against this is that gmod is dependent on such ill-obtained assets. I can assure you the gmod community is not that fragile. The artists of gmod are strong and resilient. They can create, and have created amazing mods without copyrighted content. All i'm saying is to stop uploading copyrighted assets to garry's mod, for the integrity of artists who worked hard on those assets, and to protect your account from getting taken down.

Another thing that people bring up are people reuploading the mods, be it for media preservation, just for reuploading taken down content, or any other purpose. I would also like to condemn these practices. What they are doing is distributing unlawfully, unpermittedly obtained and modified assets without any care for morals, the law, and not thinking what both the company and the artists have to think about those assets.

This doesn't just apply to textures and models ripped from licensed games, this also applies to any audio ripped from any licensed, paid game. Any mod utilizing audio from copyrighted content should not be distributed and shared publicly. After all, the music is still copyrighted and should only be listened via legal means, be it listening to the officially uploaded tracks on spotify, or listening to fan remixes (which were made by the original fans, and required actual effort to create) rather than adding them to Garry's Mod and redistributing them unlawfully.

Adding to the fact that Garry Newman's post on the nintendo situation seems to indicate that Facepunch Studios seems to be the one most affected by any DMCA strikes, since they are the one in charge of moderating and hosting gmod addons, reuploading content or making content in that matter just perpetuates that situation and increases the chances of that happening again, and facepunch possibly facing more consequenses for things done by it's playerbase.

[Nattie98]

And worst yet your argument aged even worse then milk because Palworld is facing a Patent lawsuit not a copyright lawsuit. A PATENT lawsuit by Nintendo the very company your defending said practices of because they got butt-hurt over Palworld being successful. So instead of making a good Pokemon game they instead attack Palworld because there upset of that. Which makes both you and your point look 10x worse.

Patenting game mechanics is also a crappy practice. That is only legally allowed because are legal system completely drops the ball with catching up to tech and gaming. Allowing for a company to patent mechanics to quite literally just sit on and prevent others from using. It why we dont see the nemesis system in other games cause Warner Bros patented it or loading screen minigames at a time where loading screens were prevalent cause Bandai Namco patented it

Thats like getting exclusionary rights to use paint for art and that's actually something that happened with a paint called venta black a pure black paint that absorbs 99.965% light to give a proper true black but the only artist who can use it is known as Anish Kapoor who got exclusive rights to use it. Bet you agree to something so outlandish because you love eating boot for the its legally valid argument Mr. Lawful Evil.

And you want to know what happened in all instances? It causes people to hate those who do such a thing or make there own thing that serves the same purpose causing the corporations product or stance to falter or take a serious PR dump by being shut out by the audience. Because your stifling creativity by attacking the people because you want to be a selfish greedy dragon and be the only one to be able to use it.

Well no one likes it when you forcefully take away creativity from people legally backed or no, its immoral period, and nothing will change public opinion on such things.

[RandomGamePlayer]

Origineel geplaatst door Nattie98:

And worst yet your argument aged even worse then milk because Palworld is facing a Patent lawsuit not a copyright lawsuit. A PATENT lawsuit by Nintendo the very company your defending said practices of because they got butt-hurt over Palworld being successful. So instead of making a good Pokemon game they instead attack Palworld because there upset of that. Which makes both you and your point look 10x worse.

Patenting game mechanics is also a crappy practice. That is only legally allowed because are legal system completely drops the ball with catching up to tech and gaming. Allowing for a company to patent mechanics to quite literally just sit on and prevent others from using. It why we dont see the nemesis system in other games cause Warner Bros patented it or loading screen minigames at a time where loading screens were prevalent cause Bandai Namco patented it

Thats like getting exclusionary rights to use paint for art and that's actually something that happened with a paint called venta black a pure black paint that absorbs 99.965% light to give a proper true black but the only artist who can use it is known as Anish Kapoor who got exclusive rights to use it. Bet you agree to something so outlandish because you love eating boot for the its legally valid argument Mr. Lawful Evil.

And you want to know what happened in all instances? It causes people to hate those who do such a thing or make there own thing that serves the same purpose causing the corporations product or stance to falter or take a serious PR dump by being shut out by the audience. Because your stifling creativity by attacking the people because you want to be a selfish greedy dragon and be the only one to be able to use it.

Well no one likes it when you forcefully take away creativity from people legally backed or no, its immoral period, and nothing will change public opinion on such things.

What you're referring to are patents, not copyrighted assets as i am trying to argue. The Palword lawsuit referred to Nintendo claiming to own the patent on aiming and firing certain items towards enemies in an overworld field to begin combat. This has caused Palworld to change their gameplay and arguably make it harder for people to play, since they can't put their pals in a desired spot, but this is stiill completely different to porting licensed copyrighted assets. The loading screen thing expired in 2015, but it still hasn't resurged solely because those kind of things are not really relevant anymore, still patents, not copyrighted assets. And that vantablack situation is just objectively wrong i completely agree with you, but what I am trying to defend here is not completely taking away all nintendo content from the workshop, just ported assets originating from paid, copyrighted licensed games since the distributor would be redistributing illegally, akin to media piracy, since those models are only supposed to be seen and used within their own games.

[Onyx]

World’s most non-toxic argument:

[xlsior]

who gives a ♥♥♥♥ man just play your stupid mario nextbot chases and leave us out of it

[Bahamut]

Origineel geplaatst door RandomGamePlayer:

Origineel geplaatst door Bahamut:

You must be fun at parties. Stop being such a buzzkill and let people have fun. Nintendo isn't going to disappear because someone uploaded the hundredth Mario Sunshine model. Gmod has existed for over 2 decades now with mods such as these and suddenly it's an issue? If anything it speaks to the longevity and popularity of the content that's being uploaded, and if I were a creator, i'd be thrilled people wanted to use it in their creations, but that's just me.

I am not being a buzzkill, I am trying to stop regular people from reposting unlicensed copyrighted content without the permission from the appropriate people, and getting hit with legal consequenses, with the one at the receiving end possibly be either the modder who published the work, the person who reuploaded it, or even facepunch studios for failing to moderate the workshop properly. What I am trying to say is, copyrighted content should only be enjoyed within their respective games, or other media, as just porting these assets and manually re-rigging and making some physics parameters to make it a viable ragdoll is not enough creative modifications to differentiate it from the original licensed model. It has been an issue, since the DMCAs by both nintendo and the skibidi toilet creators, and I tried to make this topic as a warning so those DMCAs don't get launched again.

Well sorry to break it to you, no one else but you feels this way, you aren't going to convince anyone, and it's a waste of energy to try. People are always going to find ways to defy the status quo one way or another, it's just human nature.

[AddamsFamilyReject]

Nintendo is better than gmod anyways.

[SharkChew]

I'm afraid we have to derail this discussion.

Anvil is all in an uproar. First the Chapel attack, now the prophet ranting about the end of the world!

[RandomGamePlayer]

Origineel geplaatst door Bahamut:

Origineel geplaatst door RandomGamePlayer:

I am not being a buzzkill, I am trying to stop regular people from reposting unlicensed copyrighted content without the permission from the appropriate people, and getting hit with legal consequenses, with the one at the receiving end possibly be either the modder who published the work, the person who reuploaded it, or even facepunch studios for failing to moderate the workshop properly. What I am trying to say is, copyrighted content should only be enjoyed within their respective games, or other media, as just porting these assets and manually re-rigging and making some physics parameters to make it a viable ragdoll is not enough creative modifications to differentiate it from the original licensed model. It has been an issue, since the DMCAs by both nintendo and the skibidi toilet creators, and I tried to make this topic as a warning so those DMCAs don't get launched again.

Well sorry to break it to you, no one else but you feels this way, you aren't going to convince anyone, and it's a waste of energy to try. People are always going to find ways to defy the status quo one way or another, it's just human nature.

It's still something that I should do. If they continue to reupload copyrighted content without caring about the consequenses on the artists, the publishers, and facepunch studios (since they are the one mainly threatened and sued with legal action) even though those models were not supposed to be used outside of their licensed media. If it's the case of self-made models being taken down of course it's bad, since it's a genuine creatively made asset, but a vast majority of nintendo models in the gmod workshop are just ports, and those ports contain copyrighted models from paid games. This is a major issue, and needs to be stopped, we've seen time and time again that the most harmed people from reuploading mods is not the people because they can't play with their mario ragdolls, but facepunch studios from nintendo's legal lawsuits.

[Brewster T. Koopa]

Nothing has changed, nor will they change, post announcement add-ons have not been removed or struck down on any of the known workshops, the wave has passed. Even post announcement no add-ons have been struck, infact new add-ons have surfaced without issues, during the wave, original art has also been struck down, including add-ons not even strictly Nintendo. The dmca claims occured because they were filed via the dmca system. Skibidi and Warner filed them directly to face punch and guess what, both of their franchises are also still up. HogwartsRP is still up in different names, and Skibidi was barely touched, and not to mention even though Garry had said there was 20 years of content to go through, not a single one has been reported to be taken down by anyone post announcement. Because nothing. will. change. Facepunch won't take a hit and they never have in all 20 years of it's existence. Spread awareness all you want, but don't expect people to agree with you, Gmod has, and always will thrive on content form other games, with or without original works. Especially if it's from some random guy in the Nintendo team that nobody knows, and this is coming from someone who does custom 3D models.

In short, complain all you want, nothing will happen.

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Origineel geplaatst door Brewster T. Koopa:

Nothing has changed, nor will they change, post announcement add-ons have not been removed or struck down on any of the known workshops, the wave has passed. Even post announcement no add-ons have been struck, infact new add-ons have surfaced without issues, during the wave, original art has also been struck down, including add-ons not even strictly Nintendo. The dmca claims occured because they were filed via the dmca system. Skibidi and Warner filed them directly to face punch and guess what, both of their franchises are also still up. HogwartsRP is still up in different names, and Skibidi was barely touched, and not to mention even though Garry had said there was 20 years of content to go through, not a single one has been reported to be taken down by anyone post announcement. Because nothing. will. change. Facepunch won't take a hit and they never have in all 20 years of it's existence. Spread awareness all you want, but don't expect people to agree with you, Gmod has, and always will thrive on content form other games, with or without original works. Especially if it's from some random guy in the Nintendo team that nobody knows, and this is coming from someone who does custom 3D models.

In short, complain all you want, nothing will happen.

Ima Burst In My Shorts Any Moment

[76561199202965340]

What if i made a mod that replaces the HL2 pistol sound with the Super Mario coin sound, is that inmoral?

[Aleks ZAK]

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[Civil Protection Unit 2867]

Origineel geplaatst door Nattie98:

Origineel geplaatst door Consul:

bro removed 50% of gmod kids, W nintendo

You say that but then you forget the cringe toilet meme exists so no it did not they just move onto other things... So its just a net negative to ban any content on the workshop it hinders creativity and does not achieve that result.

i dont want to read this

[Connor]

Simply ignore this discussion and move on.

[RandomGamePlayer]

Origineel geplaatst door Mr Elite:

What if i made a mod that replaces the HL2 pistol sound with the Super Mario coin sound, is that inmoral?

i'd make an argument about the ramifications of copyrighted sounds but why would you do that. if you made the hypothetical something like replacing the default footsteps with sm64 sounds then i'd actually argue with that