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Espiovvv Nov 26, 2016 @ 12:40pm
A not p2w darkrp server?
I'm looking for a DarkRP server that isn't pay to win and has a community that speaks English.
It seems like every second server has an option to pay real money for more health, armor, better guns, better tools, better printers, better upgrades, better cars, better everything, rendering all non-donator players completely useless against donators.
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RainOfPain125 Apr 12, 2020 @ 4:29pm 
this
Espiovvv Apr 12, 2020 @ 6:01pm 
Originally posted by RainOfPain125:
this
Quite the necro. I've found a non-p2w server, and it's pretty damn good, it's called "Fudgy's DarkRP", owned by a youtuber who plays on his own server, TTK's balanced, there are donator perks but nothing p2w, best DarkRP server I've ever played on, I highly recommend it.
RainOfPain125 Apr 12, 2020 @ 6:09pm 
Originally posted by espiovvv:
Originally posted by RainOfPain125:
this
Quite the necro. I've found a non-p2w server, and it's pretty damn good, it's called "Fudgy's DarkRP", owned by a youtuber who plays on his own server, TTK's balanced, there are donator perks but nothing p2w, best DarkRP server I've ever played on, I highly recommend it.
Fudgy runs the most notoriously P2W servers in Unturned. Why should I believe his gmod servers aren't P2W lmao?

https://fudgygaming.com/store/store.php?page=packages&id=1

yep. Its UNFAIR and PAY TO WIN

GOAT Rank:

£1,000,000 in-game cash
7000 tickets
Access to ALL printer upgrades
30 more props
Access to ALL jobs (Freerunner, Master Thief, SWAT Sniper, Heavy Gun Dealer, Advanced Hitman, Juggernaut, Jedi, Master Grower)
Epic knife
G36C (Permanent)
RainOfPain125 Apr 12, 2020 @ 6:09pm 
no p2w here guys
corey Apr 12, 2020 @ 6:57pm 
my server isnt p2w but im not gonna advertise it lol

and i actually played one of fudgys servers on darkrp and they
have a lot of expensive stuff on their server but it's not horrible
Last edited by corey; Apr 12, 2020 @ 6:57pm
RainOfPain125 Apr 12, 2020 @ 7:24pm 
Originally posted by A&C Corey:
my server isnt p2w but im not gonna advertise it lol
damn people really dont know what p2w means

pay-to-win means you can *pay* for an *advantage*

https://acnetworks.mistforums.com/donate

clearly your server is pay-to-win because you can *pay* for in-game *money* and *jobs* that you intentionally paywalled off from normal players

"$500,000 in-game cash
Access to all Vip and Vip+ jobs on our server"

People aren't dumb, mate.
Espiovvv Apr 12, 2020 @ 7:39pm 
Originally posted by RainOfPain125:
Originally posted by espiovvv:
Quite the necro. I've found a non-p2w server, and it's pretty damn good, it's called "Fudgy's DarkRP", owned by a youtuber who plays on his own server, TTK's balanced, there are donator perks but nothing p2w, best DarkRP server I've ever played on, I highly recommend it.
Fudgy runs the most notoriously P2W servers in Unturned. Why should I believe his gmod servers aren't P2W lmao?

https://fudgygaming.com/store/store.php?page=packages&id=1

yep. Its UNFAIR and PAY TO WIN

GOAT Rank:

£1,000,000 in-game cash
7000 tickets
Access to ALL printer upgrades
30 more props
Access to ALL jobs (Freerunner, Master Thief, SWAT Sniper, Heavy Gun Dealer, Advanced Hitman, Juggernaut, Jedi, Master Grower)
Epic knife
G36C (Permanent)
I was going to write a paragraph on why it's not pay to win like it seems from a first glance, but instead I'll just say this: It's not pay to win, try out that server, you'll love it. I have over 2,000 hours on GMod, I've played on a ton of servers and this is the best I've seen so far.
RainOfPain125 Apr 12, 2020 @ 7:52pm 
Originally posted by espiovvv:
Originally posted by RainOfPain125:
Fudgy runs the most notoriously P2W servers in Unturned. Why should I believe his gmod servers aren't P2W lmao?

https://fudgygaming.com/store/store.php?page=packages&id=1

yep. Its UNFAIR and PAY TO WIN

GOAT Rank:

£1,000,000 in-game cash
7000 tickets
Access to ALL printer upgrades
30 more props
Access to ALL jobs (Freerunner, Master Thief, SWAT Sniper, Heavy Gun Dealer, Advanced Hitman, Juggernaut, Jedi, Master Grower)
Epic knife
G36C (Permanent)
I was going to write a paragraph on why it's not pay to win like it seems from a first glance, but instead I'll just say this: It's not pay to win, try out that server, you'll love it. I have over 2,000 hours on GMod, I've played on a ton of servers and this is the best I've seen so far.
paying for an advantage is pay to win.
buying a rank on their server gives you an advantage.
therefore the server is pay to win.
corey Apr 13, 2020 @ 12:55pm 
the rank and in-game money is to support the server.

and there's a good bit of players who enjoy having vip ranks and jobs so just because you dislike servers that have vip options doesn't mean others dont.

I would also like to point out plenty of games have "pay to win"
any game with a membership is pay to win, any game that includes extra dlc, maps or weapons, cars etc is pay to win. So having a vip rank to help support a server staying alive is nowhere as close to a game like World of Warcraft or another online game having a membership that allows players to advance is.
Last edited by corey; Apr 13, 2020 @ 1:02pm
RainOfPain125 Apr 13, 2020 @ 1:43pm 
Originally posted by A&C Corey:
the rank and in-game money is to support the server.
No, that is a *purchase* to gain advantages. If players wanted to financially support the server, they would *donate*.



Originally posted by A&C Corey:
and there's a good bit of players who enjoy having vip ranks and jobs so just because you dislike servers that have vip options doesn't mean others dont.
Everyone should dislike unfair servers that paywall "jobs" or anything. Its literally unfair? Unfair usually means unfun.


Originally posted by A&C Corey:
I would also like to point out plenty of games have "pay to win"
Just because Capitalism is the norm doesn't make Capitalism the right system. Under this argument you'd point out 200 years ago that plenty of Nations are Feudal Monarchies.



Originally posted by A&C Corey:
any game that includes extra dlc, maps or weapons, cars etc is pay to win
DLC that doesn't give you an advantage in gameplay, isn't pay to win, its just a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ paywall. You can create paywalls in such a way that they *are* pay to win, such as but not limited to

- having a gun on a server that is only obtainable through a paid rank
- having a gun on a server that is extremely expensive but is free with a paid rank



Originally posted by A&C Corey:
So having a vip rank to help support a server staying alive
Good servers don't need outside finances to run. Good servers aren't rented from some ♥♥♥♥♥♥ website with overpriced monthly rates. I personally ran my own server franchise of over 8 servers including a MySQL server for over two years without any donations (because I refused donations). It costs no money to run servers. There is no necessary "support" to keep a server "alive".

This is just a blatant Capitalist lie. Most of the money made off servers is pocketed by the server owner and doesn't even get re-invested back into the server. Most servers are made purely to make profit like this, and the profit motive is awful.

All that's matters is the profit-motive. Nothing else matters. It doesn't matter if players have fun, or if your server even has players at all. If a Capitalists server makes profit, then it is considered "successful".

And that's the catch to "successful" servers. They don't have to be genuinely fun or bring anything game-breaking or even appease their players. They just want/have to make profit.
RainOfPain125 Apr 13, 2020 @ 1:44pm 
I welcome someone to create a proper server franchise in GMod that is fair, non pay to win, dedicated, and non abusive. Go ahead and find or make one. Or dont.
Last edited by RainOfPain125; Apr 13, 2020 @ 1:44pm
corey Apr 13, 2020 @ 1:48pm 
lol im not gonna argue with you. There's plenty of servers without any vip jobs or buyable jobs or weapons. If you dislike darkrp servers so much why not find a new game or gamemode to play?
RainOfPain125 Apr 13, 2020 @ 2:59pm 
Originally posted by A&C Corey:
lol im not gonna argue with you
lol im not here to argue


Originally posted by A&C Corey:
There's plenty of servers without any vip jobs or buyable jobs or weapons.
name one


Originally posted by A&C Corey:
If you dislike darkrp servers so much why not find a new game or gamemode to play?
I like DarkRP as a gamemode. ALL servers suffer P2W problems. Its just DarkRP is a more long-term gamemode and so it usually has paid advantages. Compared to TTT, where its short rounds that mean nothing after each match.
dk Apr 13, 2020 @ 4:11pm 
Rain high iq. All servers be like "Not p2w!" And then have jobs that are 10x better than non donator jobs paywalled off.
CELT1CSN1PER4 Apr 13, 2020 @ 11:44pm 
Elitelupus is the most popular one yet. maybe try that?
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Date Posted: Nov 26, 2016 @ 12:40pm
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