Facepunch is lazy

[TheyCallMeNexus]

Oh god where do i even begin with this one, I really enjoy GMOD because it's a good time waster and you can really have fun with it bot when playing with friends or not, however this discussion is mostly a rant about Facepunch and how they don't want to improve this game at all despite it having some obvious flaws.
1) First of all this game is horribly optimized. So, I opened HL2 EP2 to replay it and I noticed that the game barely dropped below 299 FPS which is the limit and I was like "Hmm, but how well does this map runs on GMOD. To make the comparison fair I temporarely disabled all of my addons and set the resolution and graphical settings, including FOV just like HL2 EP 2 and the game ran at about 250-270 fps. Of course, depending on which weapon i was holding the framerate either dropped/increased but it didn't go over 285. This really makes no sense, how do I get lower fps for no reason and why didn't Facepunch fixed this in 13 YEARS!
2) This game only relies on addons. Now, there are a lot of games with the Workshop implemented into them and that just makes thosse games much better considering that addons are pretty much free DLC, but even if you choose to not get anything from workshop at all, those games still give you a good amount of content for their money. GMOD is a big exceptions. Without any addon, this game is just a mod of HL2 with 2 lazy maps implemented into it. Some people made so many great addons for this game that you can say they worked for GMOD more than Facepunch did, and that's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ embarassing. I think there should really be more non-workshop content in this game.
3) Even more problems when creating a private server. For some reason, if you play on your private server with friends, you'll enjoy even more issues with this game, for example:
-Some weapons don't properly display their bullets when firing
-Sometimes weapons do more/less damage than intended, and this problem doesn't necesarely occurs for everyone in the server (I actually tested this with a frriend to make sure it's not because lucky headshots or things like that) This doesn't happens everytime but when it does, it's just obnoxious and makes private deathmatches unbalanced.
-If you are the private server host, you will get a visible fps hit, even if you're the only one in the game. IDK if this also happens for the guests.
4) A map becomes laggier the more you stay on it. I once let the game run for like 30-40 mins on gm_construct. There was absolutely nothing happening on that map and when I got back the framerate dropped from ~250 to ~175. IDK how it happens but it's quite a problem
i know Facepunch is also working on they're 2 other games(Rust and Chunks) but are they really even working so hard on those 2? Rust is still in ALPHA( yeah, alpha, not even beta) for 4 ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ years and Chunks is just a lazy minecraft rip-off with a VR gimminck implemented.
And even if they are working as hard as possibles on those titles, GMOD is a 13-year old game which is still Facepuch's most succesful game.
My guess is that they know people are still gonna buy this but ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ this just shows how lazy and ignorant Facepuch is!

[TheyCallMeNexus]

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Typing intense and angry paragraphs helps to relieve stress and frustration.

I would still recommend you reading what I said because it's about real problems i encountered with this game that should have been fixed by now

[Cassie the Loot Goblin]

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Typing intense and angry paragraphs helps to relieve stress and frustration.

[Mailer]

Optimizing the game is mostly out of their interest because the world, as we know it, runs primarily on money, and it won't bring more interest than needed to justify doing it.
However, it is also not fair to say that facepunch is lazy because 1. They have a pre-release branch where they actually test the game with patches, though being relatively calm right now, and 2. They are constantly taking in bugs and reports of exploits found in the game engine so as to keep you and me safe from hackers.
Though you might argue that this is because the game engine is old, but that doesn't justify you for calling facepunch a lazy company, in contrast to say... Valve

[mytton]

Have you heard of a company call Valve ?
They took 5 years of absolutely doing nothing to make a card game
And 1 year to redux a map

[Lily McFluffy Butt]

You're complaining about 200+ FPS on maps? Are you kidding me?

[TheyCallMeNexus]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Lilith McFluffy Butt:

You're complaining about 200+ FPS on maps? Are you kidding me?

I'm complaining about the fact that the game is badly optimized. Also, not everyone will be able to achieve 200+ fps. Losing 15-20% fps on the same map for no reason is a big problem specially for those with less powerful PCs. It just shows that there wasn't enough effort put into making the game run well, which is even a bigger issue on maps that require more horsepower from your PC

[EZ4_MORTIS]

Yeah when i download new addon its not working or i dont find it .

[Chinfu1189]

That game will always be poorly optimozed dosent mean Facepunch is lazy the game has so much crap happening at once of course youll lag or crash the addons will affect it the amount of game mounts you ha e

[Chinfu1189]

Also gmod was made to be a mod for fun not to have a bf4 experiance the game is like this for a reason which is why its special and i dont see why your mad about a 30 fps loss or more damage in private servers or stuff like that face punch isnt lazy the y do care about the game they just cant push everything like how valve does

[TheyCallMeNexus]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Chinfu1189 CSOFFER.ME CS.MONEY:

That game will always be poorly optimozed dosent mean Facepunch is lazy the game has so much crap happening at once of course youll lag or crash the addons will affect it the amount of game mounts you ha e

The game ran poorly even after disabling all of my addons. Or at least, worse than it should have

[Chinfu1189]

Ursprungligen skrivet av TheyCallMeNexus:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Chinfu1189 CSOFFER.ME CS.MONEY:

That game will always be poorly optimozed dosent mean Facepunch is lazy the game has so much crap happening at once of course youll lag or crash the addons will affect it the amount of game mounts you ha e

The game ran poorly even after disabling all of my addons. Or at least, worse than it should have

Also the thing is that hl2 wasnt made for this gmos breaks its boundires with modding and user made content the game will always be like this mostly i dont see the problem i got use to it

[Chinfu1189]

You also have 356 hours you should have gottenover it

[TheyCallMeNexus]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Chinfu1189 CSOFFER.ME CS.MONEY:

You also have 356 hours you should have gottenover it

Yeah, I did somewhat got over it, but I still think those problems can be pretty obnoxious at times.
For example, I don't really care about having below 100 fps, but when it goes under 25, and sometimes it does, then the experience gets a bit ruined. And I still strongly think that those problems can be solved. Let's take Batman Arkham Knight as an example. when that game first released on PC it had so many performance issues that it got temporarely taken down from Steam, but now, it's really well optimized, it looks amazing( I'd easily put it in a top 5 current games with best graphics ), and it never had any framerate issues after it got patched

[TrashCataclysm]

Gmod has a slower framerate running the same map because gmod is still loading more content than Half Life 2, even with addons disabled any games you have mounted are being loaded into Gmod so that they can be used.

Even when nothing is mounted gmod still has extra parts that Half Life 2 doesn't have.

So losing those few extra frames isn't because of "horribly optimization" It's because Gmod is always loading more content.

[Global]

1): This is not an optimization problem, this is thanks to how the LUA code handler isn't multi-threaded
Source is primarily a single-threaded engine, with only the rendering pipe-line multi (and even then that's buggy on GMod)
You want better FPS? Get a faster CPU with a better Single Thread rating.
Try these console commands: gmod_mcore_test 1;mat_queue_mode 2
Getting rid of your add-ons and starting fresh is the best approach.
I get 300 FPS at all times on a i5-3570 with a GTX 950, 8 GB RAM, at 2560x1080 resolution.

2): Garry's Mod has relied on Add-ons since GM8. It's best off this way. Why make stuff come with GMod when 20 other add-ons have done it better?

3): This is entirely:
A. The add-on author's fault
B. Your fault (check your addons)

4): Once again, your fault. Check your addons...

Calling FacePunch lazy is rather strange considering how you won't bother fixing your Garry's Mod install

Ursprungligen skrivet av ={M E M E - T R A S H}=:

Gmod has a slower framerate running the same map because gmod is still loading more content than Half Life 2, even with addons disabled any games you have mounted are being loaded into Gmod so that they can be used.

Even when nothing is mounted gmod still has extra parts that Half Life 2 doesn't have.

So losing those few extra frames isn't because of "horribly optimization" It's because Gmod is always loading more content.

Mounting content from other games doesn't lower FPS. It's GMod having a LUA instance.