Story Questions (Spoilers)

[ForsakenSith]

So I have some questions about the story, feel free to bring up your own.

How did the police come to the conclusion the whole family died in the fire when the only body was that of their child?

Hawkins wanted to protect his wife from the cult yet he still fed her the flesh of Levianthan and kept her locked inside the Asylum (run by Fuller who is also a cultist) to be experimented on?

What really happened with Bradley, Colden and Fuller they all died and came back, was this because of the "medicine" Fuller made from Leviathan or are some of them just hallucinations?

What actually killed the whale at the start if Leviathan is locked inside the whaling station?

How did Hawkins, Fitzroy, and Fuller hide their real identites and age from everyone?

When Pierce destroys the whaling station does it kill Leviathan or does it just allow him to escape, why does Leviathan want to be freed if he wanted to get captured to begin with?

Everyone seems to be using the same brand of sleeping pills, have these pills been tampered with, are they actually being used to give people the dreams instead of helping them, could they have been made from the Leviathan?

Also did anyone notice how Charles Hawkins's tenticle arm was his right arm at the start then switched to his left arm later in the game?

[Davine]

Originally posted by Forsaken Sith:

What actually killed the whale at the start if Leviathan is locked inside the whaling station?

Other monsters? I guess there's no lack of them in Darkwater

Originally posted by Forsaken Sith:

How did Hawkins, Fitzroy, and Fuller hide their real identites and age from everyone?

I think those three are a reference to The Case of Charles Dexter Ward, where an old wizard keeps himself young for decades and people find hard to explain it but don't ask too many questions for a long time. Other than the reference, I guess people on Darkwater aren't the sharpest tools, so those three can pretend to be somebody else (Fitzroy pretends to be his own son) without raising too many eyebrows.

Originally posted by Forsaken Sith:

When Pierce destroys the whaling station does it kill Leviathan or does it just allow him to escape, why does Leviathan want to be freed if he wanted to get captured to begin with?

Something something we mortal can't comprehend the designs of the Great Old Ones I guess? But maybe he was captured because he needed to raise the community of darkwater and its cult to prepare for the final ritual.

[ForsakenSith]

Originally posted by Davine:

Other monsters? I guess there's no lack of them in Darkwater

I wonder how many other monsters are roaming around Darkwater?

Originally posted by Davine:

I think those three are a reference to The Case of Charles Dexter Ward, where an old wizard keeps himself young for decades and people find hard to explain it but don't ask too many questions for a long time. Other than the reference, I guess people on Darkwater aren't the sharpest tools, so those three can pretend to be somebody else (Fitzroy pretends to be his own son) without raising too many eyebrows.

I guess the poor fishermen have more to worry about?

Originally posted by Davine:

Something something we mortal can't comprehend the designs of the Great Old Ones I guess? But maybe he was captured because he needed to raise the community of darkwater and its cult to prepare for the final ritual.

I feel like he could've just made the cult release him if he really wanted to.

[Davine]

Originally posted by Forsaken Sith:

I wonder how many other monsters are roaming around Darkwater?

It's better if you don't think about it.

Originally posted by Forsaken Sith:

I guess the poor fishermen have more to worry about?

Yeah, they have to find alcool in a time of prohibition, those poor guys.

Originally posted by Forsaken Sith:

I feel like he could've just made the cult release him if he really wanted to.

Agreed, it's quite probable he could just control their minds anyway, but he had to wait for the chosen one and be there when he'd arrive so he could start the ritual. Also, they had to wait for the birth of the oracle, since she came at least forty years later. That's why I think that since the catch was a trap he NEEDED to be trapped and eaten in order to create the immortal cult to call Cthulhu. According to other authors who expanded the mythos after Howard's death, Leviathan is a spawn of Cthulhu himself, therefore he's directly helping his father. Which is pretty rare since usually the Great Old Ones care only about their affairs and don't meddle too much with humans, apart from Nyarlatothep.

[Aequitas]

its because of bad writing. this game is so disjointed....I am beyond disappointed

[ForsakenSith]

Originally posted by Davine:

Agreed, it's quite probable he could just control their minds anyway, but he had to wait for the chosen one and be there when he'd arrive so he could start the ritual. Also, they had to wait for the birth of the oracle, since she came at least forty years later. That's why I think that since the catch was a trap he NEEDED to be trapped and eaten in order to create the immortal cult to call Cthulhu. According to other authors who expanded the mythos after Howard's death, Leviathan is a spawn of Cthulhu himself, therefore he's directly helping his father. Which is pretty rare since usually the Great Old Ones care only about their affairs and don't meddle too much with humans, apart from Nyarlatothep.

I forgot he was specifically waiting for Pierce because he was chosen, I wonder what made Pierce so special anyway? Reminds me of Jack from Dark Corners of the Earth.

Originally posted by ;2805074491021370798:

its because of bad writing. this game is so disjointed....I am beyond disappointed

Do you think they might've been rushed or ran out of resources so they had to cut some content, resaulting in it being a little disjointed?

[Davine]

Originally posted by Forsaken Sith:

I forgot he was specifically waiting for Pierce because he was chosen, I wonder what made Pierce so special anyway? Reminds me of Jack from Dark Corners of the Earth.

Usually there's no "chosen one" in Lovecraft, the victims of his stories are always unlucky common people with no special talent who find themselves involved in something far too great for them, there's no bigger destiny awaiting anyone apart from death and madness. In this case, he was probably chosen because he's sharp enough to understand the eldritch truth and become part of the cult (as per the dedicated ending), which is no small feat. He was not any different from any other human (no demigods here at least), but he was superior intellectually and willing to submit to the Leviathan. I'd suggest you to read Providence by Alan Moore, it's a 12-issues comic series with a very similar plot point which along with The Courtyard and Neonomicon creates a very interesting retake on the lovecraftian mythos, both the man and his work. But only if you're familiar with the originals first, of course.

[Kiaren]

Originally posted by Forsaken Sith:

How did the police come to the conclusion the whole family died in the fire when the only body was that of their child?

Fuller supplied some corpses from his stash. Simon "identified" the bodies to protect Sarah. And the Chief was being bribed, hence his half baked report.

Originally posted by Forsaken Sith:

Hawkins wanted to protect his wife from the cult yet he still fed her the flesh of Levianthan and kept her locked inside the Asylum (run by Fuller who is also a cultist) to be experimented on?

Hawkins thought Fuller was his friend. After all, they have been buddies for 70+ years.

And Fuller *was* trying to cure Sarah of her visions. At least at first. Then Sarah joined the cult and became the Oracle: aka Fuller's boss. Everything after that was willingly done by Sarah imo.

Originally posted by Forsaken Sith:

What really happened with Bradley, Colden and Fuller they all died and came back, was this because of the "medicine" Fuller made from Leviathan or are some of them just hallucinations?

Bradley: The Leviathan Oil has regenerative properties. It grew Fiztroy's leg back after all.

Colden and Fuller: They seem to be disembodied consiousnesses now. aka ghosts that only appear in the "other" world.

Originally posted by Forsaken Sith:

How did Hawkins, Fitzroy, and Fuller hide their real identites and age from everyone?

Seems they all faked their deaths. Then their "sons living in the city" inherited their wealth and moved to the island. Fitzroy admits as much in the beginning.

Originally posted by Forsaken Sith:

When Pierce destroys the whaling station does it kill Leviathan or does it just allow him to escape, why does Leviathan want to be freed if he wanted to get captured to begin with?

The Leviathan was following orders. I doubt it enjoyed having its tentacles sawn off only to regrow them again, over and over. Well, unless that is its kink. Safeword is "Banana".

Whether the Leviathan physically escaped, or "escaped" into the "other" world via death is up to interpretation.

Originally posted by Forsaken Sith:

Everyone seems to be using the same brand of sleeping pills, have these pills been tampered with, are they actually being used to give people the dreams instead of helping them, could they have been made from the Leviathan?

Interesting theory. I assumed Fuller was prescribing his miracle drug willy nilly, and that was the cause of the zombie outbreak. But your theory makes more sense. Would also explain why Pierce started getting visions from the Leviathan before going to the island.

Originally posted by Forsaken Sith:

Also did anyone notice how Charles Hawkins's tenticle arm was his right arm at the start then switched to his left arm later in the game?

SHUSH YOUS! >.<


As for "Why Pierce": Well, he wasn't special. At all. Like not even the only one "destined" to free Cthulhu. There were plenty of portraits in Sarah's collection. Pierce only noticed his because it was, well, his.

The purpose of a prediction is to attempt to make it happen. There is a whole method of manipulation that uses false predictions. One just has to start with something universal like "Somewhere, sometime, someone will rob a bank" and gradually move up to "you must rob the bank". And if the prediction doesn't come true today, well there is always tomorrow. It is inevitable, why fight fate? Someone will eventually do it, we might as well reap the benefit. Stop resisting, it will be easier on all of us. You are just so good at getting that cash, you are wasting your talents! Now rob that bank for the cult, you were born to do this!

Apply this technique to several people at once, and at least one of them will take the bait.

My point being is that the Leviathan was probably working half the island into thinking they must do its bidding. Then it just had to wait until *someone* got sufficiently mind screwed that they'd end the world to make the voices stop.

[ForsakenSith]

Was Sarah Hawkins already a full member of the cult before you "rescue" her? She seemed pretty genuine about wanting to set things right, she even went as far as to send the Shambler back to it's dimension, it was only after that she followed the call.

[Battlekruse]

I was thinking a bit about the plot myself, please correct me if I got something wrong.

Around year 1847 Captain Fitzroy, Dr. Fuller and Charles Hawking set sail with Scylla (whaleship) and tries to save starving population in Darkwater.
(Or they heard the Call of Cthulhu).

For some reason the whale have starting to disppearing, mostly due to overfishing, but also because the leviathan was feeding of them them too.

However they manage to capture the leviathan with Scylla as they though it was a whale. The leviathan quickly influence half the ship crew and get them to sacrifice the other half to it self. They manage to pull the leviathan home to Darkwater and let the people eat of its unholy flesh.

Time pass up year 1924 and its seems like:

#1 Captain Fitzroy is charge of the Whaling Station and process its oil and meat
#2 Dr. Fuller is charge Riverside Institute and make experiments with the leviathan meat and oil on humans.
#3 Charles Hawking is becoming the cult main leader and make a setup Hawking mansion

Captain Fitzroy main function was to guard and protect the leviathan at the Whaling Station, but also to extract its extract both meat and oil for Darkwater residents to feed on and also for the inhuman experiments. So far I can understand he was on the leviathan side all the time.

At the Riverside Institute Dr. Fuller have started on making experiments between human and the leviathan in attemp to created life himself and was not really on the leviathan side himself, but more like a rebellion cult member.

Charles Hawking founded the Cult of Cthulhu in the Hawking mansion and started on exploring the world with his vast fortune, he was most likely searching for occult relics and manage to found ultra rare item like the necronomicon, the dagger and the amulet. At some point he meet Sarah which he marry and they get a boy with. At some point later, he wanted them to eat the flesh of the leviathan, but they but refuse. But Sarah Hawking has already heard the Call of Cthulhu and started making occult painting. Charles Hawking get mad at her and saying she should not use her powers. They ending up having a fight where Charles Hawking get burned and later transformed and Sarah Hawking ended up a dungeon cell in the Riverside Institute with the Dr. Fuller.

For some reason I think the Cult of Cthulhu is divided into the two teams by its founding members.

Team A) Dr. Fuller + Charles Hawking
Dr. Fuller wanted to become a god himself and made lots of experiments to achieve that. Most likely he took care of Charles Hawking burning wounds and infused him with the leviathan flesh. He also locked up Sarah Hawking to protect or more likely to preserved her for future inhuman experiment. I don´t think they wanted to summon Cthulhu, but more likely wanted to learn and studie more about it.

Team 2) Captain Fitzroy + Sarah Hawking
Both wanted to summon Cthulhu, but not before that Dr. Fuller + Charles Hawking was dead as they have other goals. Maybe Captain Fitzroy consider that Sarah Hawking was dead, until he founded out she was alive. That could also explain why he help Pierce in the first place.

The Shambler was obvious a mistake and a dangerous threat to all, even other Cult of Cthulhu as it even tried to eat Pierce, Sarah Hawking, Drake and maybe even Cat, sadly it got hold on Franics Sanders.

Cat was a common thief and smuggler in the wrong place at the wrong time. Mostly like she help with the booze and oil transport without realising what is going on before its too late.

Franics Sanders started to collect odd occult item maybe under the influence of the leviathan and maybe together with both Charles Hawking and Drake. However he meet his doom with the Shambler

Drake also started to collect strange and occult book, but somehow manage to escape the influence of the leviathan and was the only on there really understood what is going on. Maybe he learned about some wards or something like the dream catchers.

However some question remained unanswered, but I tried myself to see for a quick soultion myself.

Why does the leviathan wanted to be captured?.
# The Leviathan was starving due to the to disppearing/overfishing of whales
# The Leviathan was waitning for someone to perform ritual (aka Pierce)

Why did Sarah refuse to eat the flesh
# ?

Why did Charles Hawking lock up Sarah Hawking
# Because Sarah Hawking could not control her powers and unlock the Shambler by mistake there was dangerous to all.
# Because Sarah Hawking wanted to summon Cthulhu.
# To allowed Dr. Fuller to make experiment on her

Why did Sarah Hawking and Drake work together
# The Shambler was a big threat for everyone.

This is some of my plot theory of Call of Cthulhu, but there is many unanswered questions.

[Maleficio: Invictus]

Originally posted by Battlekruse:

I was thinking a bit about the plot myself, please correct me if I got something wrong.

Around year 1847 Captain Fitzroy, Dr. Fuller and Charles Hawking set sail with Scylla (whaleship) and tries to save starving population in Darkwater.
(Or they heard the Call of Cthulhu).

For some reason the whale have starting to disppearing, mostly due to overfishing, but also because the leviathan was feeding of them them too.

However they manage to capture the leviathan with Scylla as they though it was a whale. The leviathan quickly influence half the ship crew and get them to sacrifice the other half to it self. They manage to pull the leviathan home to Darkwater and let the people eat of its unholy flesh.

Time pass up year 1924 and its seems like:

#1 Captain Fitzroy is charge of the Whaling Station and process its oil and meat
#2 Dr. Fuller is charge Riverside Institute and make experiments with the leviathan meat and oil on humans.
#3 Charles Hawking is becoming the cult main leader and make a setup Hawking mansion

Captain Fitzroy main function was to guard and protect the leviathan at the Whaling Station, but also to extract its extract both meat and oil for Darkwater residents to feed on and also for the inhuman experiments. So far I can understand he was on the leviathan side all the time.

At the Riverside Institute Dr. Fuller have started on making experiments between human and the leviathan in attemp to created life himself and was not really on the leviathan side himself, but more like a rebellion cult member.

Charles Hawking founded the Cult of Cthulhu in the Hawking mansion and started on exploring the world with his vast fortune, he was most likely searching for occult relics and manage to found ultra rare item like the necronomicon, the dagger and the amulet. At some point he meet Sarah which he marry and they get a boy with. At some point later, he wanted them to eat the flesh of the leviathan, but they but refuse. But Sarah Hawking has already heard the Call of Cthulhu and started making occult painting. Charles Hawking get mad at her and saying she should not use her powers. They ending up having a fight where Charles Hawking get burned and later transformed and Sarah Hawking ended up a dungeon cell in the Riverside Institute with the Dr. Fuller.

For some reason I think the Cult of Cthulhu is divided into the two teams by its founding members.

Team A) Dr. Fuller + Charles Hawking
Dr. Fuller wanted to become a god himself and made lots of experiments to achieve that. Most likely he took care of Charles Hawking burning wounds and infused him with the leviathan flesh. He also locked up Sarah Hawking to protect or more likely to preserved her for future inhuman experiment. I don´t think they wanted to summon Cthulhu, but more likely wanted to learn and studie more about it.

Team 2) Captain Fitzroy + Sarah Hawking
Both wanted to summon Cthulhu, but not before that Dr. Fuller + Charles Hawking was dead as they have other goals. Maybe Captain Fitzroy consider that Sarah Hawking was dead, until he founded out she was alive. That could also explain why he help Pierce in the first place.

The Shambler was obvious a mistake and a dangerous threat to all, even other Cult of Cthulhu as it even tried to eat Pierce, Sarah Hawking, Drake and maybe even Cat, sadly it got hold on Franics Sanders.

Cat was a common thief and smuggler in the wrong place at the wrong time. Mostly like she help with the booze and oil transport without realising what is going on before its too late.

Franics Sanders started to collect odd occult item maybe under the influence of the leviathan and maybe together with both Charles Hawking and Drake. However he meet his doom with the Shambler

Drake also started to collect strange and occult book, but somehow manage to escape the influence of the leviathan and was the only on there really understood what is going on. Maybe he learned about some wards or something like the dream catchers.

However some question remained unanswered, but I tried myself to see for a quick soultion myself.

Why does the leviathan wanted to be captured?.
# The Leviathan was starving due to the to disppearing/overfishing of whales
# The Leviathan was waitning for someone to perform ritual (aka Pierce)

Why did Sarah refuse to eat the flesh
# ?

Why did Charles Hawking lock up Sarah Hawking
# Because Sarah Hawking could not control her powers and unlock the Shambler by mistake there was dangerous to all.
# Because Sarah Hawking wanted to summon Cthulhu.
# To allowed Dr. Fuller to make experiment on her

Why did Sarah Hawking and Drake work together
# The Shambler was a big threat for everyone.

This is some of my plot theory of Call of Cthulhu, but there is many unanswered questions.

I finished the game a few hours ago and I´m still trying to get the story right. I don´t get the relation between The Shambler and the Cult of Cthulhu. Is the beast originally from the same dimension Cthulhu is? Plus I would like to say that I loved the picture at the end, while the sea was growing and some lines or cracks between the dimensions could be seen, and behind all that, some huge tentacles.

[ForsakenSith]

Originally posted by Battlekruse:

Why does the leviathan wanted to be captured?.

I'm pretty sure Leviathan wants to be catpured so he could influence the people of Darkwater

Originally posted by Battlekruse:

Why did Sarah refuse to eat the flesh

I believe she wasn't part of the cult at that time and didn't want to be influenced by Leviathan/Cthulhu

Originally posted by Battlekruse:

Why did Charles Hawking lock up Sarah Hawking

I think it's as you said, she couldn't control her powers and Hawkins thought Fuller could help her.

Originally posted by Battlekruse:

Why did Sarah Hawking and Drake work together

Sarah and Drake are friends and he insisted on helping her. Also Drake can be saved.

Originally posted by HL_World3:

I finished the game a few hours ago and I´m still trying to get the story right. I don´t get the relation between The Shambler and the Cult of Cthulhu. Is the beast originally from the same dimension Cthulhu is?

I don't think the Shambler has any relation to Cthulhu or the cult. I think Sarah summoned it on her own without direction from anyone. Maybe she was testing her powers or something?

[Kiaren]

Originally posted by Forsaken Sith:

Was Sarah Hawkins already a full member of the cult before you "rescue" her? She seemed pretty genuine about wanting to set things right, she even went as far as to send the Shambler back to it's dimension, it was only after that she followed the call.

There is an investigation scene where Sarah willingly becomes the Oracle. While the investigation happens after she answers the call, the other bits of this investigation is showing the other cult leaders' motivations since the beginning. So I assume it happened in the past, like the Shambler revocation.

Then again, I am using knowledge from the Pen and Paper game. The cultists in that game have an alter ego: A nice and normal front for everyday interactions, like with Fiztroy. But they can only maintain the facade for so long, like holding a muscle. So if they can't keep interaction to a minimum , they go back to "♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ crazy" in public view. Like when Fuller is giddy over the mutating patient, or Charles going full tyrant during fights.


It also makes Charles a more interesting character: He was right in the end. He was confining Sarah to her cell to protect her from herself, while begging Fuller to try and cure her curse. And finally, he was fighting against the cult from the inside, hoping to delay Sarah's ascension.

Additionally, most of the abuse Sarah claimed would have been fabricated to manipulate Pierce. This both fits a cultist's MO, and makes the story more interesting. But it is using out of game assumptions.

[Taris]

I finished the game a few hours ago and I´m still trying to get the story right. I don´t get the relation between The Shambler and the Cult of Cthulhu. Is the beast originally from the same dimension Cthulhu is? Plus I would like to say that I loved the picture at the end, while the sea was growing and some lines or cracks between the dimensions could be seen, and behind all that, some huge tentacles.

No, the Shambler is just a predator from another Dimension. He appeared originally in "The Horror at the Museum by H.P. Lovecraft and later in "The Hunters from Beyond" by Clark Ahton Smith. It is not related to Cthulhu or his followers.

Sarah was summoning the Shambler unintentionally, maybe while testing her powers or by accident while trying to contact her dead son (I'm not sure about the exact Timeline when she did the painting, the game is a bit vague about when the different plot points happen and mixing visions and hallucinations in the whole thing did not help).

According to the Lore of the Chaosium RPG on which the game is based, Cthullhu is from another part of the universe but not another dimension. In Lovecraft's Tales he came to Earth some Millions of Years ago. He is sleeping in his sunken city at the bottom of the pacific ocean, waiting and dreaming until the stars are right.
He may rise now and then doing Old One Stuff or eating some curious seamen who are foolish enough to wake him up while nosing around in his ruined city (Original Story "Call of Cthulhu" by H.P. Lovecraft), but never stays awake for long. The reason why they added the Shambler into this story is probably to have more content and an additional Monster.