PLAY the DEMO first !

[Bozz 💀]

This is not a review of the game just a good advice !
I just refunded the game, I first played the tutorial with the demo and it took me 3 hours to finish it and then I bought the game because after the tutorial I was hyped as hell !!! but after 2 hours of gameplay the game felt very bad so I refunded it, so if you guys are thinking about getting the game play the demo first !

link to demo http://www.starwraith.com/evochronlegacy/downloads.htm

EDIT: the demo and the game are 300mb so it won't take long to try the demo and if you like it to buy and play the full game with the save you created for the demo.

[Chaka (FR)]

Oki.

[Soulstain]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but how could you know if a game this complex and huge is bad in two hours of gameplay. You couldn't have even left the starter system...lol. If you tried to say something like that on an ED forum with less than 300 hours of gameplay you'd be flamed off the forums. This game is very complex and much deeper then a game like ED. It will take many hours to get comfortable and then if you play a game like ED you will log out after 10 minutes because you can't stand everything being dumbed down and instanced instanced instanced or magically created for you. Good idea to play the demo though. Not all games are for all people so I would respect your opinion but it's arrived at rather prematurely . Of course the 2 hour steam refund policy gets in the way. You can always remove the demo and redownload it. The timer starts over again. You can test for hours. Cheers!

[Bozz 💀]

I agree with you 2 hours is not much time to judge a game and no I did not leave the starting systeme, I played ED and did not like it even if I spent 50 to 60 hours on it.
I prefer X3 or X rebirth over ED (personnal opinion)
I did not like the grahics of this game and the UI is far from great I could judge that from the demo what made me buy this game was that I thought it would be very deep but it really doesn't seem to be that deep.

It seemed to me that Planets and being able to fly around them was one of the strongest features advertised in the game. But there is literally zero point in visiting a planet. They offer nothing and there seems to be zero interest in building stations or cities unless you want to be able to refuel in a particular systeme...

[Roark's Hammer]

Originally posted by Bozz:

I agree with you 2 hours is not much time to judge a game and no I did not leave the starting systeme, I played ED and did not like it even if I spent 50 to 60 hours on it.
I prefer X3 or X rebirth over ED (personnal opinion)
I did not like the grahics of this game and the UI is far from great I could judge that from the demo what made me buy this game was that I thought it would be very deep but it really doesn't seem to be that deep.

It seemed to me that Planets and being able to fly around them was one of the strongest features advertised in the game. But there is literally zero point in visiting a planet. They offer nothing and there seems to be zero interest in building stations or cities unless you want to be able to refuel in a particular systeme...

These are fair points on personal preference. The flight model in evochron is deep in a way that x is not. But the empire building components of X are leaps and bounds more robust than in evochron.

I like these sorts of games for the piloting, and personally I wish there had been a demo of X3, I would have saved my money on about the most poorly implemented game I have ever played. Watching that single-threaded garbage crash into everything got real old real fast--and its interface was truly abysmal.

[Mobile_BBQ]

Trust me. (no flame intended) I'm a huge fan of this series but I, can see that the Evochron series is not for everybody.

The learning curve is high.
It seems impossible until, with time and practice, it clicks. Then it seems natural as sipping your morning coffee.

Unlike ED or many other popular space sims, the flight model is definitely not Ace Combat in space. The combat is based on the flight model, which is definitely not Ace Combat in space.

The economy has alot of tweaks and improvemants in this new title, but is still not spreadsheet-able like Eve or full of a thousand different items that must be balanced between a thousand different takes-10 hours-to-reach-in-seta-mode factories/farms/shopping malls/hot dog stands/stations in order to get the industrial machine fully rolling.

Content, story-wise, is almost purely based on singleplayers being able to make their own adventure and multiplayers often rely on each other to create whatever 'story' they're intending to tell.

Evochron is far from DCS-in-space but can be pretty complex in it's own right regarding the menus and funtionality.

The graphics have never been ED-level polished or better, but they are actually pretty damn good for not being a AAA title.

And thus, the divide. These are some of the points that are exactly why people love this game, and exactly the reason others don't.

I fall into the 'love it' catagory. If however, somebody else doesn't, then I hope they find what they do love.

[EddyVegas]

I agree with this. The tutorial alone is 200 small pages of text, and will probably use up your Steam refund time. Get the demo and relax.

[^4JB^7L^1ZR]

Originally posted by EddyVegas:

I agree with this. The tutorial alone is 200 small pages of text, and will probably use up your Steam refund time. Get the demo and relax.

If i play the demo will i be forced into same tutorial when i buy the game?

[Adger]

Originally posted by John 'Blaze' Rambo:

Originally posted by EddyVegas:

I agree with this. The tutorial alone is 200 small pages of text, and will probably use up your Steam refund time. Get the demo and relax.

If i play the demo will i be forced into same tutorial when i buy the game?

Dont believe you are "forced" to do the tutorial pal ,at startup you can choose wether or not to start the tutorial,you can just click on launch

[Steve]

Originally posted by Bozz:

This is not a review of the game just a good advice !
I just refunded the game, I first played the tutorial with the demo and it took me 3 hours to finish it and then I bought the game because after the tutorial I was hyped as hell !!! but after 2 hours of gameplay the game felt very bad so I refunded it, so if you guys are thinking about getting the game play the demo first !

link to demo http://www.starwraith.com/evochronlegacy/downloads.htm

EDIT: the demo and the game are 300mb so it won't take long to try the demo and if you like it to buy and play the full game with the save you created for the demo.

What exactly didn't you like about the game?

[Aku]

Originally posted by Adger:

Originally posted by John 'Blaze' Rambo:

If i play the demo will i be forced into same tutorial when i buy the game?

Dont believe you are "forced" to do the tutorial pal ,at startup you can choose wether or not to start the tutorial,you can just click on launch

Well yea, that's "true" bot you'd likely spend a good chunk of time figuring out the ui/controls if you dont, especially if you want to use a gamepad.

Add to that, the "starting mission" could've easily been the tutorial,, if the information was included as you went along with that, instead, you get some bland waypoint hopping with a little bit of a story

[SKaREO]

Not for the faint of heart, my dear boy. Go back to your legos.

Lol, I jest, I jest. The game design is so old school, you might not be able to appreciate that unless you grew up in the 90's with games like Freelancer. Admittedly, it's more complicated than your average space adventure games, such as the Wing Commander series. This one is hard as nails to learn, but very rewarding if you manage to get over the incredibly steep learning curve.

[Aku]

Oh, I', definitely of that era (though, i will admit to having been more of a console kid at the time)

But, some design changes have been made because they ACTUALLY are better

[Roark's Hammer]

Originally posted by Aku:

Oh, I', definitely of that era (though, i will admit to having been more of a console kid at the time)

But, some design changes have been made because they ACTUALLY are better

I agree with your general point, and the menus in this game could be more intuitive. But most of what makes this game hard are the dynamics of the flight model. And dumbing that down would ruin the game.

[Steve]

Originally posted by SKaREO:

Not for the faint of heart, my dear boy. Go back to your legos. :hoot:

for the record the plural of Lego is Lego, thats not my opinion but the guy who invented it. its like sheep, one sheep many sheep. one piece of Lego, a handful of Lego.

[Mobile_BBQ]

Originally posted by PaulFoster:

Originally posted by SKaREO:

Not for the faint of heart, my dear boy. Go back to your legos. :hoot:

for the record the plural of Lego is Lego, thats not my opinion but the guy who invented it. its like sheep, one sheep many sheep. one piece of Lego, a handful of Lego.

Huh. ...Learn something new every day. :D