most efficient county defense

[Edwardo]

i prefer and have had great success since i was a kid with a norman keep garrisoned with 150 crossbows and 50 swords low cost and held off 1k+ armies

[Colonel Sanders Lite]

Substitute the swords with pikes, maces, or knights. Swords are literally the worst unit in the game aside from peasants.

I guy did a direct unit comparison vid a while back. Check it out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqybHixruHg

[Edwardo]

Originally posted by Colonel Sanders Lite:

Substitute the swords with pikes, maces, or knights. Swords are literally the worst unit in the game aside from peasants.

I guy did a direct unit comparison vid a while back. Check it out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqybHixruHg

not gonna lie im bias to swordsmen... though i get the cost effect aspect

[Edwardo]

Originally posted by Colonel Sanders Lite:

Substitute the swords with pikes, maces, or knights. Swords are literally the worst unit in the game aside from peasants.

I guy did a direct unit comparison vid a while back. Check it out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqybHixruHg

and also any good player either against AI or LAN isnt going to have heavy single unit armies in late game.... swordsmen are quite effective when used in unison. especially in siege defense where choke points and support is available. the godly macemen do fall short to simple pike and arrow

[Colonel Sanders Lite]

Originally posted by Jay ED:

and also any good player either against AI or LAN isnt going to have heavy single unit armies in late game....

Didn't say you should. You're missing the point.

Originally posted by Jay ED:

especially in siege defense where choke points and support is available.

Pikes will do better in that role. It's really not even a contest.


Pikes will do everything that swordsman can do better *and* cheaper. They are better at melee. They are better at withstanding arrows. Their speeds aren't significantly different.

There is really only one small niche swordsman fill - they're useful for tanking arrows if your map is very wood poor.

If you know of some other niche where swords are actually better than pikes, I'm all ears.

[SumatranRatMonkey]

Can the game be played with swordsmen? Sure, but you are handicapping yourself. Pikes are objectively better in that role per resources spent.

Anyway play whichever way you like against the AI...

[Drewsko]

when u make knights just to flex on the ai......... way more deadlier then mace men too!

[Kampfkekskrieger EXP Folk Master]

when you start to grap your first province on low wealth in first turn, you will see how valuable 25 swordsmen are.
you can conquer at least 5 provinces in italy;) in like 5 or 6 turns and win in 14 alike

[Edwardo]

ive walked early game maps with danish mercenaries

[ShadowFox]

Moat and bailey with 25 pikemen and 175 archers is my bread and butter then royal with 600 archers you can even autocalc and lose like 50 guys to max army

[Edwardo]

i can see that especially if you get a wood only province starting out