by far the best gothic game

[The King Possum]

This is by far the best gothic game made.
when talking about the best game ask your self what makes a game good. well actually being able to play it goes a long way. not having to download community patches in order to get the game to run is a major way. when you do finally get the game to work play control helps a lot. graphics are important but not a main thing that makes a game great.
This game arcania works from the start and has no major problems like gothic 1, 2, 3. the first 3 games are so broken it is not funny. This game has good controls, works from the start, good graphics and everything you need to play for 20 hours straight and replyability.
I enjoy this game very much and it is by far my favourite gothic game. it is a well deserved game in the seires and it is about time they game a game in the series that actually works. I would love a sequal to this game. also some achievements and trading cards would be nice!

[kitt]

dunno where Gothic 1 or 2 are broken as f.. maybe yoou are just a casual player.. and don't call it Gothic...

[The King Possum]

not a casual player at all. and yes gothic 1 and 2 are very broken games. you seem a little snobby with your reply. I been playing games longer than you been alive most likely.
the fact that I had to download a patch to get them to work means they are broken. also GOTHIC 4: ARCANIA IS VERY WORTHY OF THE GOTHIC NAME. now unless you actually have something to add to the conversation please go troll elsewhere.

Originally posted by kitt:

dunno where Gothic 1 or 2 are broken as f.. maybe yoou are just a casual player.. and don't call it Gothic...

[The King Possum]

having played them all I think it safe to say I am 100% accurate. after all if the game is broken and the only way to get it to run is to download a patch from people that did not develop the game that is a very poor game. the entire gothic series is a very good idea but they could have spent more time developing the game and making them work. Arcania does lack some of the good ideas that previous gothic games had like actually going to a fire to cook foods and it could use more spells in it but in every other way this game is by far better than all the gothic games.

Originally posted by Rapikol:

You're kidding right? Please tell me you're kidding

[Artema]

nice, agree to op

[The King Possum]

thank you.

I am glad to see that not everyone is a troll that spams comments for no reason.

Originally posted by Artema:

nice, agree to op

[༼ つ ◕◡◕ ༽つ Dray2k]

Hell will freeze if people finally stop ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ at somebody for no reason or explanation. Oh well, doesn't look like you guys know better as OP as I can clearly see here. If you think hes trolling, why not just ignore him and don't act like you're some kid? Have fun on your own, no need to tell what you believe people should enjoy, thats even much worse compared to what OP is saying IF he is the troll you guys expect him to be.

No need to get angry over this stuff .

With that said I do love Gothic 1, 2 and 3. Having played retail Arc (though also having it on Steam because it was very cheap and convinience) was still good on its own regard. Storys sometimes cheap here-and-there, still suprisingly not-terrible at all.

The Gothic series is well known for being a very rough diamond. Even so far that you can cut yourself on it. However, Gothic 2 (and Gothic 1 if you don't fool around with it) is actually very playable. The characters are charming and the story and gameplay is good/amazing. This depends on what you like in these games, I think that they're superior than games like Dark Souls, for instance you need to play Gothic 2 at least 2-3 (3 times are recommended so you know where all the leveling stuff can take you and what class works for you best) to get an understanding of the gameplay so you can even think about raging on those orc siege. Also theres a ton of secret stuff lots of people don't even know so if you understand the bounds of the game you may even find the secret car hidden somewhere in Jharkendar.

So OP, if you finished Arcania, just go ahead and play either Gothic 1 or 2. I recommend G2, the game explains the story of Gothic 1 to you and its really easy to control. You will master it in no time while still finding lots of stuff with 200 hours wasted.

Enjoy your games and days guys :D!

[The King Possum]

I fully stand by what I posted. I own all the gothic games. the gothic series has to be patched before it even works, thus making arcania the best game cause it was playable from install onward. the trolls did not agree with me so they came trolling. they stated nothing to back up any claims they made. in fact one troll did nothing but spam two letters in one reply. gothic 4 could have been a bit more open world and the interactive stuff could have actually done something but still the game is best in series because it is playable. if I have to community patch a game there is something majorly wrong with that game. I like gothic 3 a lot and if they made it work properly, without having to use a community patch to get it to work, it would be the best in the series.

you are the only one to have actually made any kind of case for the other games. I respect your opinion. the trolls can leave.

Originally posted by Dray2k:

Hell will freeze if people finally stop ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ at somebody for no reason or explanation. Oh well, doesn't look like you guys know better as OP as I can clearly see here. If you think hes trolling, why not just ignore him and don't act like you're some kid? Have fun on your own, no need to tell what you believe people should enjoy, thats even much worse compared to what OP is saying IF he is the troll you guys expect him to be.

No need to get angry over this stuff :extralife:.

With that said I do love Gothic 1, 2 and 3. Having played retail Arc (though also having it on Steam because it was very cheap and convinience) was still good on its own regard. Storys sometimes cheap here-and-there, still suprisingly not-terrible at all.

The Gothic series is well known for being a very rough diamond. Even so far that you can cut yourself on it. However, Gothic 2 (and Gothic 1 if you don't fool around with it) is actually very playable. The characters are charming and the story and gameplay is good/amazing. This depends on what you like in these games, I think that they're superior than games like Dark Souls, for instance you need to play Gothic 2 at least 2-3 (3 times are recommended so you know where all the leveling stuff can take you and what class works for you best) to get an understanding of the gameplay so you can even think about raging on those orc siege. Also theres a ton of secret stuff lots of people don't even know so if you understand the bounds of the game you may even find the secret car hidden somewhere in Jharkendar.

So OP, if you finished Arcania, just go ahead and play either Gothic 1 or 2. I recommend G2, the game explains the story of Gothic 1 to you and its really easy to control. You will master it in no time while still finding lots of stuff with 200 hours wasted.

Enjoy your games and days guys :D!

[Tommyrod]

Interesting statement OP.

I played Gothic 1 - 3 a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of times UNPATCHED and I had lots of fun with these games..despite being buggy.

I've got every part of the Gothic series + Addons on Steam just because I'm a die-hard fan of it and I want to support the producers with it to encourage them to make more games.

To the topic: I played Arcania just ONCE and didn't even played through it till the end. It may be just me but it got monotone pretty fast.

Coincidently I've got the urge to play one Gothic part again and thought "maybe Arcania is worth playing again". Browsing through the Community Hub I saw your article.
And your statement actually gave me the push to download the game now to try it out again.

Let's see how it works OP...thanks for you article. =)

[The King Possum]

thank you for your feedback. this was the first gothic game I ever played and I went back and bought the rest. while I do wish they had made arcania more open world and put the leveling like in 3 I more than enjoy gothc 4. I could not get gothic 1 through 3 to even start without a patch. I own the series on steam. I really enjoyed gothic 2 once I got it to work but it was still not up to par on with the lag issues. one I played for a bit once I got it working, plan on going through it all the way in the future, and didn't really care for it. two seems much better than one but still had issues of getting it to work. three was another game needed to be patched. arcania worked from from install. I like the series and think it is a good idea. I will most likely go back and play them all when I have no internet and nothing to do, as I do with most games I find questinable. I am glad you enjoy gothic series and hope you do give arcania another try. maybe play it sometime after you play the rest cause it is a little different from the rest of the series. have a good one.

Originally posted by tommyrod:

Interesting statement OP.

I played Gothic 1 - 3 a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of times UNPATCHED and I had lots of fun with these games..despite being buggy.

I've got every part of the Gothic series + Addons on Steam just because I'm a die-hard fan of it and I want to support the producers with it to encourage them to make more games.

To the topic: I played Arcania just ONCE and didn't even played through it till the end. It may be just me but it got monotone pretty fast.

Coincidently I've got the urge to play one Gothic part again and thought "maybe Arcania is worth playing again". Browsing through the Community Hub I saw your article.
And your statement actually gave me the push to download the game now to try it out again.

Let's see how it works OP...thanks for you article. =)

[Lannik]

I do disagree with this still bieng called a Gothic game.

First off made by diffrent people. They even lost the rights to have Gothic in the title.

Second invisible walls ... NOT open world. It has the explorability of a Halo game.

Third enemies scale with you. This means that you'll never encounter an enemy you cannot face. In Gothic games you can take a wrong turn and find your level 1-2 character face to face with a black troll, demon, or a dragon and are always at risk of bieng outmatched until late game. Thats not the case in Arcania where it rather feels like somone is holding your hand throughout making sure you don't stub a toe.

Fourth they replaced the nameless hero with a nameless shepherd...

The only thing that this game really has in common is that its set in the same 'universe' and has cameo appearances from some of the popular characters.



As for your broken comments G1 and G2 are hard to play on modern systems. When they were released I had ZERO problems playing them on win98. This is the case with most older games. They weren't designed for modern computers but for their contemporaries. Try to get games from 1992-1998 and many will require an emmulator or community patch and some will be completely unplayable no matter how much effort you put into it (Revenant for me).

As for G3 it did release in poor shape. Not broken but certantly buggy.



Arcania isn't terrible but it doesn't respect the spirit of the Gothic name. It feels too dumbed down in order to cater to casual console audiences and in doing so lost the connection with the Gothic games.

[The King Possum]

made by different pople for a reason.
True it is not an open world game but that does not make itless of a gothic game.
enemies scale with you so you can't find an enemy you cannot beat? really, really, really? every game I have ever played at least has 1 or 2 enemies that you cannot defeat the first time around.
it is the nameless shepard that is the nameless hero in this one and with him being founf and not born in the village might perchance he be the son of that nameless hero or of a king?
the plants and the same, they have some same enimies.
I have lots of older games that work on my newer system that never needed patching.
the only casual gamers I have ever heard about are the ones that play facebook games and stuff like that and/or only every so often.
just because soomeone plays on a console does not make them a casual gamer. many hardcore gamers are console gamers and could defeat you on many multiplayer games.
it is just snobbish like to think that because one play on PC they are a better gamer than one that plays on a console.

still this is the best GOTHIC game out there.

Originally posted by Lannik:

I do disagree with this still bieng called a Gothic game.

First off made by diffrent people. They even lost the rights to have Gothic in the title.

Second invisible walls ... NOT open world. It has the explorability of a Halo game.

Third enemies scale with you. This means that you'll never encounter an enemy you cannot face. In Gothic games you can take a wrong turn and find your level 1-2 character face to face with a black troll, demon, or a dragon and are always at risk of bieng outmatched until late game. Thats not the case in Arcania where it rather feels like somone is holding your hand throughout making sure you don't stub a toe.

Fourth they replaced the nameless hero with a nameless shepherd...

The only thing that this game really has in common is that its set in the same 'universe' and has cameo appearances from some of the popular characters.



As for your broken comments G1 and G2 are hard to play on modern systems. When they were released I had ZERO problems playing them on win98. This is the case with most older games. They weren't designed for modern computers but for their contemporaries. Try to get games from 1992-1998 and many will require an emmulator or community patch and some will be completely unplayable no matter how much effort you put into it (Revenant for me).

As for G3 it did release in poor shape. Not broken but certantly buggy.



Arcania isn't terrible but it doesn't respect the spirit of the Gothic name. It feels too dumbed down in order to cater to casual console audiences and in doing so lost the connection with the Gothic games.

[Tommyrod]

Just thought I would give a quick status report since I'm replaying Arcania right now. =)

Story-wise I would definately say that this is a Gothic game. It makes totally sense to me that there is a new main protagonist since there is nothing to accomplish for the previous "Nameless Hero" (a. k. a. Rhobar III).

It also shows character progression for most of the important persons that were there since Gothic 1.

The only big flaw I see after playing for some hours is the battle system: It's casual as hell. xD

Maybe it's just since I'm used to the Dark Souls series. I switched the game mode to hard and it's still easy. The only thing the game mode changes are the health, the damage and the attack speed of the enemies.

The AI is easy to predict and you can abuse certain mechanics like infinite stamina rolls and shield stun spamming.

But I just started so I will play a bit more to see how it develops into mid and late game.

[The King Possum]

I wish they had made arcania like gothic 3 to a point. Once I got gothic 3 to work it was okay but laggy as hell. gothic 2 was okay and one barely works.

can you please give me the definition os "casual gamer?" people throw that term around for many things and I guess I just do not understand what a "casual gamer" is. I myself have been gaming since the 1980's and only ever heard this term in the last 3 year, since being on steam.

Originally posted by tommyrod:

Just thought I would give a quick status report since I'm replaying Arcania right now. =)

Story-wise I would definately say that this is a Gothic game. It makes totally sense to me that there is a new main protagonist since there is nothing to accomplish for the previous "Nameless Hero" (a. k. a. Rhobar III).

It also shows character progression for most of the important persons that were there since Gothic 1.

The only big flaw I see after playing for some hours is the battle system: It's casual as hell. xD

Maybe it's just since I'm used to the Dark Souls series. I switched the game mode to hard and it's still easy. The only thing the game mode changes are the health, the damage and the attack speed of the enemies.

The AI is easy to predict and you can abuse certain mechanics like infinite stamina rolls and shield stun spamming.

But I just started so I will play a bit more to see how it develops into mid and late game.

Originally posted by tommyrod:

Just thought I would give a quick status report since I'm replaying Arcania right now. =)

Story-wise I would definately say that this is a Gothic game. It makes totally sense to me that there is a new main protagonist since there is nothing to accomplish for the previous "Nameless Hero" (a. k. a. Rhobar III).

It also shows character progression for most of the important persons that were there since Gothic 1.

The only big flaw I see after playing for some hours is the battle system: It's casual as hell. xD

Maybe it's just since I'm used to the Dark Souls series. I switched the game mode to hard and it's still easy. The only thing the game mode changes are the health, the damage and the attack speed of the enemies.

The AI is easy to predict and you can abuse certain mechanics like infinite stamina rolls and shield stun spamming.

But I just started so I will play a bit more to see how it develops into mid and late game.

[Tommyrod]

The term "casual" in games means that it is designed for gamers who want fast and easy success with less challenge.

I wouldn't disagree if someone says that the developer's main target group for Arcania were casual gamers. xD They probably wanted a drastic change to Gothic 3 since it wasn't successful at all.

But I got to agree with you on the fps lags...this was a major problem for me when I first played Gothic 1-3. The reasons for this could possibly be the open world and the bad programming. xD

[The King Possum]

well out of the hundred games I own, including this one, I haven't got a casual game except maybe bad rats. Thanks for clarifying the term for me. very bad programming one the first few gothic games.

Originally posted by tommyrod:

The term "casual" in games means that it is designed for gamers who want fast and easy success with less challenge.

I wouldn't disagree if someone says that the developer's main target group for Arcania were casual gamers. xD They probably wanted a drastic change to Gothic 3 since it wasn't successful at all.

But I got to agree with you on the fps lags...this was a major problem for me when I first played Gothic 1-3. The reasons for this could possibly be the open world and the bad programming. xD