I got demote after attacking someone.

[Blublah]

I am playing as a theif with scholar as my wife. My plan was to kill all the others so that my wife can get in to the polictic seat easily, while kidnapping the baron for good money. What happen is once my wife got the seat in politic. It seems that what ever I do regarding of kidnaping, fighting or other bad thing. The game will tell me that I have lost the seat and demote me to be a commoner again. Also my wife control the baliff also. Can someone please explain what happen and how to avoid it? Oh btw I got arrested by my own baliff too. this happen i both inside and outskirt of town. (I made the out skirt as my turf and decide the faith of anyone that pass by)

[Leslian Lexter]

Hey Yellowboy. I cant remember if its the pope or emperor, but one of the highest seats in the imperial city has the ability to strip you of your land and property (cant remember if your title is included). If you pissed this guy off, this is what might have happened.
Another way of getting stripped of your titles is through a trial, though i find this unlikely to be the case, without you noticing :)

[Blublah]

It doesn't tell me if any of them do something to me what happen is the second I attack someone or do bad thing once i have political seat. It will demote me in both title and politic. the seat only got stripfrom the char that attack but the title got demote for the whole family. It really suck once you are a baron or something then you got demote back to commoner. that's a hell lot of money to buy title again and it's very annoying. it force me to play nice once i got any seat.

[Blublah]

BTW I attack normal people and that also happen

[Leslian Lexter]

If someone with skill in empathy saw you attacking people, they might have considerable evidence against you and have pressed charges. Even if your character didnt show up (which really doesnt help your case) the court will still pass sentence, so you might not have noticed. One of these sentences is to have your family stripped of their titles. This is the most likely scenario i think :)

[Blublah]

Is it possible if it depend on the the law adjustment that they set up each time?

[BrowneHawk]

THis also happened to me recently. The only thing i think that could of done it was constant crimes. I had two theives dens and merc castle and i was beating the crap out of people at will. I then killed a rival and got the message i have been stripped of all titles. I think the way around it is to spread your crime out. Wait for night to do the worst of the crimes. From what i read the crimes you do diminish after awhile. IT also dosent hurt to bribe the guards. A succcesful bribe gives exp and a window to be able to do some crime. You will even see a buff next to your portrait that says you bribed recently. I think holding an office that has immunity is key to not having that happen. SO generally i get imunity then go on the crime spree, while still playing it safe. Bribe, do it at night. Setting a few prostitutes up to snag people close to the crime scene isnt bad either.

HAvent had enough time to test this, but i want to find out if killing any witness's makes the crime go away. FOr instance, kill citizen A then kill the random serf that was walking by. In theory the crime should go away. Unless it automatically get reported by the npc.

[BrowneHawk]

Hookers? Call girls? Didn't think a prosti would get censcored?

[Leslian Lexter]

Originally posted by Maebus:

HAvent had enough time to test this, but i want to find out if killing any witness's makes the crime go away. FOr instance, kill citizen A then kill the random serf that was walking by. In theory the crime should go away. Unless it automatically get reported by the npc.

I believe NPC's "talk" to each other and spread the evidence. If youre quick enough, you might make it though :)
You can of course always just kill the prosecuter and then show up for court. Your rival will fail to show up and all charges will fall. You can check who is the one pressing charges on the Guild Hall, under Messages tab (I believe its a beige document on a green background in your toolbar)

[Blublah]

Now I got another ploblem. I became an outlaw and it doesn't let me pay up so i just stay out of town till the outlaw bar is gone. Now the police NPC keep excuting me and i can't do anything about it or make this event go away. Usually i can just fight them but it's very annoying that you will get cuff every time and have to force attack them to get out. The worst thing is when i go in the the court room for voting or stuff the executioner in that room will just come up and cuff me and i can't do anything about it since this guy cannot be attack.
I also have immunity.

[Blublah]

Also another one which is funny but it's very troublesome. I wipeout a dynasty it my town but somehow their spouse didn't disappear. Bad news is it's a 1 year old child who can accuse me in court and can get political seat. what's worst is I can't do jack about it since it's too young. so I can't kill it, banish or chage any crime to them.

[Leslian Lexter]

You should probably just consider starting a new game :p This is absurd!

[Blublah]

lol. I guess i have to then. Might as well start of as scholar for a change.