Gothic 3

Gothic 3

1984 Dec 13, 2021 @ 11:27am
Gothic 3 addon
Has anyone here had fun with the addon for Gothic 3? I am just curious if you think it is worth playing
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Oneeyed Dec 13, 2021 @ 1:00pm 
It depends on how much humor you have.

If you can cringe about a game made by some guys in a windowless Delhi tower

- who didnt even get paid fully for their work and
- made ridiculous quests about unfaithful spouses in which you either have kill her, him or the 3rd party involved
- verruckt bird man ^^
- Orcs named Silvester or Rudolph because the indian guys made this didnt have any idea which names are european for the human population and made up names for the orcs
- endless escort quest through the whole game world
- becoming a slave - because thats soooo much fun in an rpg
- a story which cumulates to an ending and end boss which well has nothing to do with the story you got presented for the first 30 hours of game play
- a hero who lectures every NPC they are basically just scum but then murders everyone who just disagrees with him or just for money anyway

then that is the game for you.

It is certainly fun with friends and a bottle of vodka for a while.

But for a serious playthough you have to be a masochist or a fan of ArcaniA ^^
Is the topic about the Gothic 3 addon "Forsaken Gods" or about ArcaniA (aka Gothic 4)?
Slayni Dec 14, 2021 @ 3:23am 
Ye, Forsaken Gods is an amazing DLC.
People usually talk to much about it (in a bad light), but give it a try. Trust me!
Oneeyed Dec 14, 2021 @ 10:46am 
I dont understand how my post would make you wanna play it but well ok. Invite a friend, drink some vodka, play the sh1tshow, laugh you a$$ off about how bad it is until it gets annoying, then quit ^^
Originally posted by Pharnham:
I don't play official DLC, let alone amateur addons.
Well, it isn't an addon or DLC, but a standalone game and created as a sequel. Same applies to ArcaniA.

Yet the fundamental problem is that publisher Jowood has entrusted other developers with the project and, within the terms of the Gothic IP licensing, has given them access to the Gothic 3 engine and data as a base. Most likely when it turned out that they were unable to cope with such a massive project, they restricted themselves to Myrtana, dropping Nordmar and Varant, and ending up with something like a content mod. Obviously, they also didn't contribute to game engine development, but modified the combat rules, diverting much more from the original Gothic 1&2 gameplay design.
Originally posted by ZER0 %K:
Isn't it a Standalone Expansion?
Despite what some descriptions may be telling, it isn't an expansion, because it doesn't add to a base game (= Gothic 3) and doesn't require players to own Gothic 3 either. It is a separate game that is built upon reused assets, particularly the Genome engine used for Gothic 3, the area Myrtana from Gothic 3 and related Gothic lore. If the team that created Forsaken Gods had not reused so much stuff from Gothic 3, I guess the game would have been called Gothic 4 already. Publisher JoWood later has tried that with another developer team and ArcaniA (aka Gothic 4).
Forsaken Gods is an attempt at continueing the story, and therefore - but by a far stretch - one could call it an expansion of the Gothic 3 story. But the nameless hero starts from scratch once more at level 1, waking up from a comatose state. His appearance is different, too. The combat rules have been changed. What's there is all quite thin. Especially if a player has come from Gothic 3, starting Forsaken Gods in Myrtana again and being confined to that portion of the Gothic 3 seamless open world, is rather limiting. I would prefer a replay of Gothic 3 as a magician at any time, choosing other spells and high-level spells, going for one of the alternative endings.

Perhaps watch this verdict:
--> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BUEV5eZcpM
Razorhunter Dec 16, 2021 @ 6:11am 
Haha once again im late to the discussion but nevertheless gonna throw my hat in.
I know the Forsaken gods add on since years and i simply played it here and there because im burning for Gothic games and i wanna experience something new. Like not always the same content over and over and over again. The add on is absolute trash in every meaning and every aspect and totally sucks. Still gonna mention here that its nearly totally bugfree thanks to the community patch team so in fact its playable. And i played through it because of the point i mentioned in the beginning. Wasnt even a bad time but i definetely knew what i was going to play there and you can do nothing else than cringe about the dialogues and the questline and i wouldnt recommend it to anyone having up any hopes about it. Its still 100% better than Arcania. If you get it in a decent sale its okay id say.
Originally posted by ZER0 %K:
Just more Gothic to play. No matter how janky.
Forsaken Gods is for unaspiring players, who don't mind spending time on filler content quests in a virtual world copied from an older game.

If the devs had created new areas, e.g. neighboring lands, and had taken the story to such a new ingame "world", that would have given much more incentive to play such a game. But to copy Myrtana from Gothic 3 while dropping Nordmar and Varant? *Ough*, players of Gothic 3 are done with Myrtana, very likely have explored it all.

My favorite ending of Gothic 3 is the path of total annihilation. Working with the various factions, which need not exclude freeing the occupied villages and the capital Vengard from the orcs (in Myrtana) and the Hashishin (in Varant), and eventually teaming up with Beliar, then turning against everyone. Xardas, King Rhobar, Zuben (the leader of the Hashishin), the orc chieftains. You get to kill them all. Depending on role-playing, one may also become the ultimate traitor and eradicate the rebels, the nomads, perhaps even the clans of Nordmar and the fire magicians at their monastery. Alternatively, one teams up with the Hashishin and turns against the orcs and people of Myrtana. After such a playthrough, the villages are in ruins, the people exterminated, and it makes absolutely no sense to restart Forsaken Gods in Myrtana at level 1 and endulge in errand boy tasks.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=952807780
Last edited by D'amarr from Darshiva; Dec 17, 2021 @ 2:37am
back in the day when you went to stores to buy physical copies i made the huge mistake of buying this piece of ♥♥♥♥. stay far away from it and if someone mentions it to you you should get ouf there asap
Razorhunter Dec 18, 2021 @ 5:24pm 
Originally posted by ZER0 %K:
Originally posted by D'amarr from Darshiva:
Forsaken Gods is an attempt at continueing the story, and therefore - but by a far stretch - one could call it an expansion of the Gothic 3 story. But the nameless hero starts from scratch once more at level 1, waking up from a comatose state. His appearance is different, too. The combat rules have been changed. What's there is all quite thin. Especially if a player has come from Gothic 3, starting Forsaken Gods in Myrtana again and being confined to that portion of the Gothic 3 seamless open world, is rather limiting. I would prefer a replay of Gothic 3 as a magician at any time, choosing other spells and high-level spells, going for one of the alternative endings.

Perhaps watch this verdict:
--> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BUEV5eZcpM
Okay so I watched the video and discounts the bugs and glitches that are probably fixed with offical patches and community patches I liked the premise of this addon.

I actually want to play a tyrant who is has this crazy dialogue and wants to execute characters. Lol. And the quest about the cheating wife is pure gold. Haha

Why not? Basically this is a good quest pack lol
You just gotta see it as pure entertainment, enjoy the memes thats it ;)
Razorhunter Dec 18, 2021 @ 5:30pm 
Originally posted by ZER0 %K:
Originally posted by Razorhunter:
You just gotta see it as pure entertainment, enjoy the memes thats it ;)
Exactly, like some people watch bad movies or play trash games for laughs. I am gonna do that. But honestly I believe the community fixes all software issues and then we have a funny tyrannical gothic 3 version lol.

Like some people love movie The Room even though it is bad. They say it is so bad it is good although I didn't really laugh much.
I got that with predator upgrade, love the franchise but every movie besides the first one is so damn trashy its hillarious. Upgrade had some kind of entertaining humour and actors atleast.
Originally posted by ZER0 %K:
Why not? Basically this is a good quest pack lol
Your choice, of course. Please don't expect me to bash Forsaken Gods (and ArcaniA) endlessly. :steamhappy:

Originally posted by ZER0 %K:
But honestly I believe the community fixes all software issues and then we have a funny tyrannical gothic 3 version lol.
Have you played Gothic 3 yet?

Forsaken Gods is not Gothic 3, and that is the fundamental problem. It takes place in Myrtana again, but Gothic 3's path of total annihilation can be played in multiple ways. Since there is no faction joining in Gothic 3 but only faction reputation, the nameless hero may choose to turn against individual factions (and ultimately everyone) as soon as they have served their purpose (= offering a few quests here and there, but it isn't mandatory to do them). Just as the hero may choose to support the rebels early, he is free to fight the rebels early or turn against the orcs rather than infiltrating them via the orc mercenaries. That is part of the role-playing choices. It becomes possible to run wild and attack everyone, even slaughter the water mages and the fire mages early, if not later. Effectively, you get plenty of options to become a turncoat.

Edit: Oh, and don't "hate" Forsaken Gods and not ArcaniA either, but inspite of the cheap pricing, there are reasons not to purchase those games.
Last edited by D'amarr from Darshiva; Dec 19, 2021 @ 2:49am
V I D A L Dec 23, 2021 @ 4:52pm 
Originally posted by Slayni:
Ye, Forsaken Gods is an amazing DLC.
People usually talk to much about it (in a bad light), but give it a try. Trust me!
Do not trust him. It's awful. Absolutely awful.
Inquerion Jan 4, 2022 @ 7:39am 
Originally posted by ZER0 %K:
Originally posted by V I D A L:
Do not trust him. It's awful. Absolutely awful.
I already picked it up but will play it after I finish a g2 mod. Enhanced edition comes with community patch that fixed all issues. It is also under a dollar worth for me

Forsaken Gods is far from beeing a good game or a proper Gothic title, but it can still be enjoyable with Community Patch and Content Mod. Release version was terrible, but fans fixed it. It still suffers from mediocricity, though. ArcaniA a Gothic 4 is no longer part of canon, and is very different from the Gothic series, but also can be enjoyable if you like Hack and Slash RPGs.

This is, how I would rate Gothic games:
Gothic 1 - 9/10
Gothic 2 - 9/10
Gothic 2 Expansion NoR - 8.5/10
Gothic 3 (with CP, CM, QP, LTM mods) - 8/10; 7/10 without them.
Gothic 3 Forsaken Gods - (with CP, CM) - 6/10; 4/10 without them.
ArcaniA [A Gothic 4] - 6.5/10
ArcaniA DLC Fall of Setariff - 4/10

###Special mention, part of canon for me
Chronicles of Myrtana (G2 mod) - 9/10
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