Differences between GIII and GIII FG

[Heywok]

Can u tell me the differences between the two games version of the game?

[hinti21]

Forsaken Gods is a stand-alone addon, which is horribly bad.

[Heywok]

So i shouldnt play it?

[kris.aalst]

Forsaken Gods is a standalone expansion to Gothic 3 and it's utter crap. I'm not just saying that as a personal opinion, it's a well-documented fact. The game was made very cheaply and it shows in every aspect: bad story, bad voice acting, tons of bugs, ...

So stick to Gothic 3 with the Community Patch (check the pinned thread in the Gothic 3 forum for instructions on how to install it) and forget 'G3 Forsaken Gods' ever existed.

[hinti21]

Originally posted by Heywok:

So i shouldnt play it?

Gothic 3 was made by Piranha Bytes and with the latest community patch it is one hell of a game.
Forsaken Gods was made by some indian company which totally messed things up. I would not advise you to waste your time with it.

[Heywok]

should i play with B.A or not?

[hinti21]

Originally posted by Heywok:

should i play with B.A or not?

Alternative balancing? Depends on if you want to be able to create a god character who can do anything from alchemy and magic to sword fighting and bow shooting. If you dont want that, but want a more balanced and challenging experience, use the alternative balancing.

[kris.aalst]

I assume you mean A.B. (Alternative Balancing)? I wouldn't do that for a first playthrough. It makes the game harder because you'll have a lot less LP and won't be able to become a 'god-like' character at the end of the game, which takes away one of the typical things that make a Gothic game a Gothic game, in my opinion. I would, however, advise you to enable alternative AI.

[Heywok]

U are right,i was thinking like that too

[Elondrius]

Originally posted by kris.aalst:

I would, however, advise you to enable alternative AI.

Why?

[kris.aalst]

Primarily because Alternative AI puts an end to the stunlock fest: opponents' attack speed is decreased so they can't just attack you in quick succession (thereby stunlocking you). You can't stunlock opponents anymore either, which is fair.

Without Alternative AI, opponents would sometimes retreat for a long distance for no reason (AI bug). They'd keep facing you and they'd keep you in combat mode until you chased the target and finished him off. This got tedious. Also, sometimes an opponent even retreated into a wall, keeping you locked in combat without being able to get to him. One time, I had a bugged quest because of this.

Also, when fighting with a shield, the whole blocking system is a lot better with Alternative AI because it requires timing blocks a bit, both for you and your opponents, making sword-and-board combat a lot more interesting.

Lastly, depending on the difficulty you choose, more than one opponent may attack you at the same time. When fighting two people without Alternative AI, it's a bit silly that one of them just stands there, waiting until his companion is dead to actually attack you. But the number of opponents who attack you at the same time is still limited (depending on difficulty mode) so it's not like you get attacked by 5 opponents at the same time when attacking a large bandit camp or liberating a town. All in all, it's also more realistic so more immersive. And it makes combat more challenging.

It's important to note that Alternative AI can be switched off at any time, so I see no reason not to try it. If you don't like it, simply disable it.

[Heywok]

Kris,the feeling with G3 is really different from the other 2 chapters and the graphics is becoming old worse then the last chaps.Do u have any suggest for a newbie?

[kris.aalst]

Depends on what aspects you'd like some thoughts on. As for combat, ranged is a lot easier than melee. You'll get plenty of LP so if you want to be a melee fighter, consider leveling your bow or crossbow skills, too. You can often take advantage of the terrain to shoot arrows at an opponent while they have a hard time reaching you. Or classic kiting will do, too. Just make sure you don't back into another group of monsters Or consider a mage build. That's also a ranged build and it's the most powerful build for this game.

[Heywok]

A cons that i noticed is the A.I of npcs.i enter where i want with no one that wants to attack me,voice acting is bad,the sync between animation of mouth and voice isnt that good and and the gesture of the chat is awkard as ♥♥♥♥,i dint aspect from g3,the first 2 are better and they are games of 2001-2002 and this one was realese in 2006.

[Elondrius]

I've tried Alternative AI when I installed the Community Patch and it was on by default. First I was a little bit confused, but then figured it out what changed, and where to disable it.
I play as a mage, so I use magic to bring down the big guys or group of enemies, but I use my staff to dispose of the smaller ones. I went against a rippebeast with Alternative AI and it was kinda an impossible feat for me. It simply didn't react to my swings (as you said, no stun), and it charged me continuously. It became a DPS race which the beast won, so I decided to disable this feature. It may be beneficial for fighting humanoids, but breaks fighting animals even more than the original (if that's possible).
Obviously I'm speaking about melee, for magic and ranged they're going down just as easy, so I feel this tweak makes the gap between melee and magic/ranged even wider than it was before.

[kris.aalst]

In the first town, you can enter all the buildings without consequence. But later on, you'll come across many buildings and other places you can't enter or you'll be attacked. The other things you mention are inherent to the game, so you'll either have to live with them or quit playing altogether.