Useless skill

[SunDriedSheet]

I have hunting 250. With medium archer skill I killed simple lurker in 3 shots. I got master archer skill for 25 skill points(!!) and nothing changed, still killing lurker in 3 shots. The fire speed looks pretty much same either. Can someone explain to me a point of the skill?

[DonTonberry]

The point of skills like this (archer, crossbow, swordfighting etc.) is that they are required to wield better weapons. So you should probably wait with getting them for when you find a weapon that requires them.

[SunDriedSheet]

Actually improving swordmanship gives you the ability to knockdown opponents, so if you fight like I do, pierce and then strong hit (with knockdown), you can kill anyone avoiding any possible counterattack, so investing in this ability gives you really strong advantage. Same with the larger weapon, I am currently on level III and I am able to attack with great aoe combo. But if I invest 40 points in medium archer and master archer, it´s pretty much wasted, since nothing really has changed. I use "Ranger bow" and I didn´t even mean to get better one, since it gives me big game hunter skill for free and I am mainly focused of strengt. So I pretty much wasted 25 points, shame I can´t take it back.

I´ve played Witcher a lot and I am accostumed to have everything clear, if I am going to decide about this skill or that, there´s always clear tooltip with 20 % bonus to this 30 % bonus to that, but in Gothic it tells you nothing.

[DonTonberry]

You can knockdown with a sword, and spin with large weapon even at level 1, so iam not sure what are you talking about. Though you are right about wasted points, if you are focused on strenght, and dont want a better bow, then this skill probably doesnt benefit you at all.

[SunDriedSheet]

With swordmanship 1 and sword you can knockdown only tier 1 fighers for 50 epx like orc scouts or light bandits, that´s all.

[DonTonberry]

Hmm.. Iam pretty sure you can sometimes knockdown higher lvl enemies too, but maybe this increses chance of knocking down. Or maybe they changed it in community patch.
But nevermind, you were asking about bow skill, so thats all there is to it, i guess.

[空白 [Blank]]

Originally posted by 654681631:

I have hunting 250. With medium archer skill I killed simple lurker in 3 shots. I got master archer skill for 25 skill points(!!) and nothing changed, still killing lurker in 3 shots. The fire speed looks pretty much same either. Can someone explain to me a point of the skill?

Damage = (Weapon-DMG + PC-Skill-Bonus( Medium archer skill --> Damage = Damage + 25; Master Archer Skill --> Damage = Damage + 25; "big wild hunter" --> (fighting against lurker for example) Damage = Damage * 2) + headshot? (if you land a headshot --> Damage = Damage * 2) )+ Hunting/2)
Armor
Damage = Damage - ( Damage * (MaxLevel of NPC * 1,5) /100)

Life of Lurker-> Easy = 200HP, Normal = 400HP, Hard = 600HP

if you want to find out maxLevel of an NPC, type 'marvin' (you have to be very fast) and press ^. The console will open then. Aim the NPC and type 'edit'. Go to the right tab and you'll find the MaxLevel (Should be the 3rd when i remember right).

Answer for your question:
The master archer skill gives you +25 Damage (Defense of enemy not calculated). And you can equip better bows, like the Demon Bow.

[SunDriedSheet]

I play hard diff., meaming +25 dmg for 25 skill points is absolutely useless. Thanks, I already noticed :(( Shame I can´t take it back.

[8-bit Ringo]

Crossbow skill increases the speed you knock a bolt but I think thats about all the differences there are between skills minus the knockdown abilities -_-