Removed from the store...?

[Pctechnik]

Does anyone know why? What's the story?

[greenraven22]

It's a Games Workshop game. They have an unhealthy tendency to have "accidents".

https://www.pcgamer.com/another-warhammer-games-license-runs-out-as-warhammer-quest-announces-its-delisting-on-steam/

[Imnuktam]

Its abandonware, devs quit supporting or doing anything but cashing checks on sales from this title long ago.

[Rizilliant]

Originally posted by Imnuktam:

Its abandonware, devs quit supporting or doing anything but cashing checks on sales from this title long ago.

Thats how games have always worked.. Theyre completed, and thats it.. I dont know when/why gamers began expecting endless support

[greenraven22]

Originally posted by Rizilliant:

Thats how games have always worked.. Theyre completed, and thats it.. I dont know when/why gamers began expecting endless support

I think we can blame "live service" for that.

[Pctechnik]

Ok, but didn't think it would be removed from the store, even if it was no longer supported... If it ain't broke...

[Imnuktam]

Originally posted by greenraven22:

Originally posted by Rizilliant:

Thats how games have always worked.. Theyre completed, and thats it.. I dont know when/why gamers began expecting endless support

I think we can blame "live service" for that.

rizilliant just didnt do his research and read up on this title. Its a whole different story than most games, it is 100% abandoned, in a state for many people that is not working.

It needed to be removed.

Originally posted by Pctechnik:

Ok, but didn't think it would be removed from the store, even if it was no longer supported... If it ain't broke...

Problem is that for a lot of users it is broke and no one is fixing it. Steam pulled it because no one is supporting it at all anymore aside from cashing the checks. There are a lot of stories out there on this title as well as plenty of people on this forum asking how to get it working again. There are like 6 different threads on just the first page right now talking about how it no longer works.

[Vrakos Anthrakir]

Thinking that steam removed it because it was abandoned by the devs is not realistic. The license from GW ran out and that's why the game was pulled.

[Imnuktam]

Originally posted by Vrakos Anthrakir:

Thinking that steam removed it because it was abandoned by the devs is not realistic. The license from GW ran out and that's why the game was pulled.

Except that is exactly why it got pulled and that is why the license expired, because devs walked away from it and quit supporting game in any way. Ask any AI, you will get the same answer.

"Steam has not released an official statement regarding the removal of Warhammer 40,000: Deathwatch - Enhanced Edition. However, discussions in the gaming community suggest that the game was likely removed due to a lack of support and maintenance from the developers, which left it in a non-functional state for many users"

Not all devs abandon their games, games that kept supporting their IP like Dawn of War (which released more than 20 years ago, a full decade before deathwatch) are still readily available because they are still supported. Games that dont like Shandalar become abandonware just like this one & companies do not and should not keep turning profits on abandonware. Storefronts no longer carry either because of this.

If you keep supporting your game, you keep renewing your rights to sell it. If you abandon it, you should no longer profit for it as it becomes more and more un-playable and unstable every single year and every single iteration of windows which was the case for this title.

[Vrakos Anthrakir]

Originally posted by Imnuktam:

Originally posted by Vrakos Anthrakir:

Thinking that steam removed it because it was abandoned by the devs is not realistic. The license from GW ran out and that's why the game was pulled.

Except that is exactly why it got pulled and that is why the license expired, because devs walked away from it and quit supporting game in any way. Ask any AI, you will get the same answer.

"Steam has not released an official statement regarding the removal of Warhammer 40,000: Deathwatch - Enhanced Edition. However, discussions in the gaming community suggest that the game was likely removed due to a lack of support and maintenance from the developers, which left it in a non-functional state for many users"

Not all devs abandon their games, games that kept supporting their IP like Dawn of War (which released more than 20 years ago, a full decade before deathwatch) are still readily available because they are still supported. Games that dont like Shandalar become abandonware just like this one & companies do not and should not keep turning profits on abandonware. Storefronts no longer carry either because of this.

If you keep supporting your game, you keep renewing your rights to sell it. If you abandon it, you should no longer profit for it as it becomes more and more un-playable and unstable every single year and every single iteration of windows which was the case for this title.

You framed this situation as a choice made by steam, it was not. Steam removed it because of the license running out (i.e. forced due to legal reasons). The license ran out because the game was abandoned by the devs. This isn't transitive. Plenty of abandoned games that are questionably stable/functional are left up, showing that it isn't enough to get a game removed.

Ask an AI? Don't be ridiculous.

[Imnuktam]

Originally posted by Vrakos Anthrakir:

Originally posted by Imnuktam:

Except that is exactly why it got pulled and that is why the license expired, because devs walked away from it and quit supporting game in any way. Ask any AI, you will get the same answer.

"Steam has not released an official statement regarding the removal of Warhammer 40,000: Deathwatch - Enhanced Edition. However, discussions in the gaming community suggest that the game was likely removed due to a lack of support and maintenance from the developers, which left it in a non-functional state for many users"

Not all devs abandon their games, games that kept supporting their IP like Dawn of War (which released more than 20 years ago, a full decade before deathwatch) are still readily available because they are still supported. Games that dont like Shandalar become abandonware just like this one & companies do not and should not keep turning profits on abandonware. Storefronts no longer carry either because of this.

If you keep supporting your game, you keep renewing your rights to sell it. If you abandon it, you should no longer profit for it as it becomes more and more un-playable and unstable every single year and every single iteration of windows which was the case for this title.

You framed this situation as a choice made by steam, it was not. Steam removed it because of the license running out (i.e. forced due to legal reasons). The license ran out because the game was abandoned by the devs. This isn't transitive. Plenty of abandoned games that are questionably stable/functional are left up, showing that it isn't enough to get a game removed.

Ask an AI? Don't be ridiculous.

So like I said in my very first reply, the answer is.... "Its abandonware, devs quit supporting or doing anything but cashing checks on sales from this title long ago."

The game got abandoned and thus it got pulled.
The game got abandoned by devs, so the license eventually expired and it got pulled.
The license only expired because it got abandoned by the devs, so it got pulled lol.

Talk about arguing over nothing, my god man. That is why I referred you to AI where you can argue endlessly about what came first the chicken or the egg and pretend it makes a difference to anyone but you.

Stability & functionality is 100% enough to get some games removed, do your research. Valve has pulled dozens for that reason alone WHEN they start getting too many refund requests.

[greenraven22]

Originally posted by Imnuktam:

Except that is exactly why it got pulled and that is why the license expired, because devs walked away from it and quit supporting game in any way. Ask any AI, you will get the same answer.

Not all devs abandon their games, games that kept supporting their IP like Dawn of War

Couple of things here.

First off how does one "support" an offline single player game? At some point you simply just have nothing else to add to the game. That's how gaming used to work before "liveservice".

And two Dawn Of War III was abandoned before they even released their first expansion and is still on the storefront. Meanwhile Space Wolf was still getting expansions at regular intervals when they pulled it from the store. Horus Heresy Legions is still on the store but Age Of Sigmar Champions got pulled. Then there's something like both Chainsaw Warrior games which were both fully finished and had positive reviews.

The truth is GW pulls licenses arbitrarily to create artificial scarcity.

[Imnuktam]

Originally posted by greenraven22:

Originally posted by Imnuktam:

Except that is exactly why it got pulled and that is why the license expired, because devs walked away from it and quit supporting game in any way. Ask any AI, you will get the same answer.

Not all devs abandon their games, games that kept supporting their IP like Dawn of War

Couple of things here.

First off how does one "support" an offline single player game? At some point you simply just have nothing else to add to the game. That's how gaming used to work before "liveservice".

And two Dawn Of War III was abandoned before they even released their first expansion and is still on the storefront. Meanwhile Space Wolf was still getting expansions at regular intervals when they pulled it from the store. Horus Heresy Legions is still on the store but Age Of Sigmar Champions got pulled. Then there's something like both Chainsaw Warrior games which were both fully finished and had positive reviews.

The truth is GW pulls licenses arbitrarily to create artificial scarcity.

Short answer is your team keeps making sure game functions even though they produce no new content. They provide servers and technical assistance.

Dont confuse producing new content with still supporting a game so it continues to function properly. This seems to be what everyone who is arguing the term abandoned with me here is doing.

A game that produces NO new content but is kept working by the devs is not abandoned or considered abandonware. One like this game or March of war that stops getting technical support or servers shut down is abandoned and steam will almost always pull those, but especially if they start getting complaints and refund requests.

Dawn of war III was a complete pile of ♥♥♥♥, and yes it was instantly abandoned for producing new content as the members of that team (that didnt get fired) moved on to make AOE 4 within months of release.

All dawn of war series are however still supported by Relic and still have technical support available to help ensure their games at least keep functioning.