Strength builds aren't bad!

[Ducky-Hunter]

For everyone struggling with STR builds there here are some tips.
1. Block and dodge are TERRIBLE don't take them just tank the hits its not worth the stamina loss. (or the skill points)
2. Don't get more skill slots early. This one is huge. Not only will you buy skills that will actually help you there is no reason to have multiple attacks.
3. With tip number 2 in mind, uppercut and cross punch have crazy good stats just compare them to the other moves and consider you are gonna have 4 strength with cross punch. You're gonna do dmg. I personally used crosspunch punch to conserve stamina early game
4.Now after you get way of the bear is where things get easy. learn boxing punch clothesline triple punch and just watch fights end. Clothesline triple punch (btw at this point you still are only going to have 2 active skills slots) is enough to win every amateur circuit fight with 5 3 3 stats.
That's the early game late game still only use clothesline and fill you're other 4 skills with passive such as tormentor strikes and you'll have no troubles even with agi based opponents. As a note though I recommend having your agi 3 levels behind your strength at most.

[Gorkanczech]

stamina isnt too bad too suicidal attack Beef Hammer Powerfull uppercut Can essentially help you win battle of attrition and if opponent has 0 stamina you can knock them out easily.

[Ducky-Hunter]

Originally posted by Gorkanczech:

stamina isnt too bad too suicidal attack Beef Hammer Powerful uppercut Can essentially help you win battle of attrition and if opponent has 0 stamina you can knock them out easily.

I'm gonna disagree with you sadly. The problem is stamina attacks just have terrible stat distribution. High level stamina attacks have lower base dmg lower scaling dmg lower accuracy and higher stamina cost than high level strength stats. You would be better off taking the bear tree capping your strength at 13 from the skill and then powering stamina up for like a 13 8 15+ build than taking way of the turtle.

[Ban Danna]

Become Ip Man. Agility / Wing Chun all the way.

[Nova225]

As a note though I recommend having your agi 3 levels behind your strength at most.

So, in other words, not a strength build. A hybrid build that uses way of the bear attacks.

The game basically tells you to focus on a skill, and everyone is seeing you need agility to balance out the accuracy loss from strength attacks.

[Ducky-Hunter]

Originally posted by Nova225:

So, in other words, not a strength build. A hybrid build that uses way of the bear attacks.

The game basically tells you to focus on a skill, and everyone is seeing you need agility to balance out the accuracy loss from strength attacks.

That's just a general tip. Agi builds can have zero strength and stam and work just because of the mechanics of the game. My endgame was only 15 9 9 nothing crazy stat wise.

[Aria Ravenlocke]

Originally posted by Ducky-Hunter:

For everyone struggling with STR builds there here are some tips.
1. Block and dodge are TERRIBLE don't take them just tank the hits its not worth the stamina loss. (or the skill points)

Way of the Tiger builds get ways to reduce dodge cost, and ways to deal damage when you successfully dodge your opponent's attack.

2. Don't get more skill slots early. This one is huge. Not only will you buy skills that will actually help you there is no reason to have multiple attacks.

But you might need a slot for any additional modifiers you want.

3. With tip number 2 in mind, uppercut and cross punch have crazy good stats just compare them to the other moves and consider you are gonna have 4 strength with cross punch. You're gonna do dmg. I personally used crosspunch punch to conserve stamina early game

Yet both of these abilities are inferior to the Agility-based abilities.

4.Now after you get way of the bear is where things get easy. learn boxing punch clothesline triple punch and just watch fights end. Clothesline triple punch (btw at this point you still are only going to have 2 active skills slots) is enough to win every amateur circuit fight with 5 3 3 stats.
That's the early game late game still only use clothesline and fill you're other 4 skills with passive such as tormentor strikes and you'll have no troubles even with agi based opponents. As a note though I recommend having your agi 3 levels behind your strength at most.

So, you still need Agility. Got it. It's not how the game says it, where it tells you to only train Strength, and maybe some Stamina.

[Quhzk]

Originally posted by Aria Ravenlocke:

So, you still need Agility. Got it. It's not how the game says it, where it tells you to only train Strength, and maybe some Stamina.

Yeah, the game "tells" or rather shows you to train Strength, Stamina and some Agility. But then again I'm a full Slugger aka Bear Style fighter at the moment and kicking ninja ass all day long to get my fame up. And yes, my stats are 13/12/13 but it is still a STR build since Bear style is unlocked via STR. Could most likely do this with less AGI by now that I figured how to deal with agi builds. I'm using block (yes, a normal block), closeline, iron skull, wreck'em and elblow to deal with the pesky 15 - 19 agi fellas.

As a dev stated in one of the threads, with STR you need to actually figure out what works in a fight since you get a lot of ways to debuff your opponent, use that.

Edit: Oh yeah, and the "specialisation" the game keeps telling you, atleast I understood it skill point wise, not stat wise.

Edit:Edit: Oh yeah, I have a 80% winrate and AGI has never been my highest stat.

[Foolishuman]

You're ignoring the fact that you need to actually be able to HIT someone. The high AGI guys (Bruce for example) are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ impossible to hit. Sure I can knock him out in one combo but landing it is not possible.

[February]

Originally posted by Ducky-Hunter:

For everyone struggling with STR builds there here are some tips.
1. Block and dodge are TERRIBLE don't take them just tank the hits its not worth the stamina loss. (or the skill points)
2. Don't get more skill slots early. This one is huge. Not only will you buy skills that will actually help you there is no reason to have multiple attacks.

That's not a very fun or interactive way to play the game now, is it?

Your post shows us that Block and Dodge need to be improved to be worth taking and there has to be a far greater incentive to obtaining multiple skills instead of sticking with one or two - now that's pretty stupid.

[Foolishuman]

Also - 2nd last bear skill. Totally de-bunks the debuff myth of str builds.

[kickascii]

I'm almost to the end of the game with a STR build. Chose the legs perk.

Early game I went 2STR-3AGI-3STA for the early fights and to beat up the 5 muggers. Maybe I got to 2-4-4.

Mid game when I got the 4 STR perk my build was 4-6-6 and eventually 4-8-8. Knee Crush, Elbow, Block. Go straight for Boxing Jab Series, it's really good. Also, swap out block for sidestep against guys who can sting through your block. Can sub out elbow against guys with low AGI.

For the end of ultimate, final tournament and Russia I was 8STR-10AGI-10STA and I potioned up on AGI. Build was Low cut kick, elbow/uppercut, boxing series, hardblock/sidestep, Countercross/tormentor. Tormentor/Elbow againsy high AGI guys, uppercut/countercross against low AGI.

I did fine with this build for 4/6 alien ship runs (heh). But eventually I needed to get up to 13STR with the perk. Once I did, I changed my build completely. 13-10-10 and the build is Boxing series, Hard Block, Tormentor, Iron Skull, and then for the 5th slot either elbow for high AGI guys or Clothline for low AGI guys (and guys where I won't suck out of energy too badly.

Boxer perk was pretty good to pick up, and Diehard is unexpectedly awesome. It procs pretty frequently and it means that even if you get knocked down, you have a good chance of standing back up with 50 energy and you're right back in the fight instead of having no hope.

[Nova225]

Originally posted by kickascii:

I'm almost to the end of the game with a STR build. Chose the legs perk.

Early game I went 2STR-3AGI-3STA for the early fights and to beat up the 5 muggers. Maybe I got to 2-4-4.

Mid game when I got the 4 STR perk my build was 4-6-6 and eventually 4-8-8. Knee Crush, Elbow, Block. Go straight for Boxing Jab Series, it's really good. Also, swap out block for sidestep against guys who can sting through your block. Can sub out elbow against guys with low AGI.

For the end of ultimate, final tournament and Russia I was 8STR-10AGI-10STA and I potioned up on AGI. Build was Low cut kick, elbow/uppercut, boxing series, hardblock/sidestep, Countercross/tormentor. Tormentor/Elbow againsy high AGI guys, uppercut/countercross against low AGI.

I did fine with this build for 4/6 alien ship runs (heh). But eventually I needed to get up to 13STR with the perk. Once I did, I changed my build completely. 13-10-10 and the build is Boxing series, Hard Block, Tormentor, Iron Skull, and then for the 5th slot either elbow for high AGI guys or Clothline for low AGI guys (and guys where I won't suck out of energy too badly.

Boxer perk was pretty good to pick up, and Diehard is unexpectedly awesome. It procs pretty frequently and it means that even if you get knocked down, you have a good chance of standing back up with 50 energy and you're right back in the fight instead of having no hope.

And I say yet again.

So, in other words, not a strength build. A hybrid build that uses way of the bear attacks.

The game basically tells you to focus on a skill, and everyone is seeing you need agility to balance out the accuracy loss from strength attacks.

The game DELIBERATLY tells you not to try and balance your stats, but focus on one.

What you did was make an AGI build that, again, uses Way of the Bear skills.

I'm not telling you your build is wrong, but rather the devs have made a big error in telling us to focus on specific stats when it seems it's better to go AGI focused, or just balance them all.

[Jacques Jorck]

sooo i have been experiencing a lot with builds these days, and to be fair yes agi builds are after the nerf still the way you can complete the game fasstest! But however strength builds are definitely viable.. In the start i did have a little trouble with energy, but in the end build i didn't go below 80% energy at any point, i simply finished my opponents too fast. The build was simply going from Powerful Uppercut and the straight road to Ruthless aggression, capping my strength at 13 and training agi + stam.. then i went into Way of the Turtle going towards infinite energy, not that it was needed in my end game build as i didn't go below 80% energy at any point - end build ended up being 15-14-13, i valued the higher agility than the stamina since the only place hitting is a problem is against agi types, and if you just have the aim to do so they wont hurt you much and you can finish them in 3-4 hits.

[MuKen]

I have multiple <60 day clears with a 17-4-12 Bear build. How? Spend 5 skills on getting Way of the Tiger, and use the tiger stance on counterhitters like Bruce. The hit% buff of Tiger will do more for you than any amount of stacking AGI.

[lanbrown66]

I'm personally only building with strength and stamina only. My agi is 1. Everything dies in one round with closeline and triple hit