Ash fight... wtf with that

[Jerac]

I get the hiding part. I get the hiding in the water with Mina part. I get the switching part. But attacking? Is there some kind of a rule or it is just random?

How am I supposed to figure out when Ash is vulnerable? Apparently attacking the place where the leaves move is not what is supposed to be done? Grenades don't work, same for wrench, pistol works for whatever reason, and so do rockets.

Is this fight bugged and Ash'es hitbox is just not where the footsteps are?

[D YellowMadness]

If I remember right, the main thing to know is that in addition to being able to hear anything loud you do & anything you do when you're too close to him, he can also see you pretty much any time you're in front of him & if he sees you, he'll immediately attack & block anything you do, although he stops moving for a surprisingly long time after blocking. Diagonal shots are useful since you can use them to hit him right before entering his line of sight & then just keep shooting him so he has to teleport.

I could be misremembering some things since it's been a long time but here's a video of me beating him without getting hurt on Harder Mode so even if my logic is wrong, the strategy should still work. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lmcYRzePH4

[Jerac]

Originally posted by D YellowMadness:

If I remember right, the main thing to know is that in addition to being able to hear anything loud you do & anything you do when you're too close to him, he can also see you pretty much any time you're in front of him & if he sees you, he'll immediately attack & block anything you do, although he stops moving for a surprisingly long time after blocking. Diagonal shots are useful since you can use them to hit him right before entering his line of sight & then just keep shooting him so he has to teleport.

I could be misremembering some things since it's been a long time but here's a video of me beating him without getting hurt on Harder Mode so even if my logic is wrong, the strategy should still work. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lmcYRzePH4

Thanks, I did it with help of some YT video but still can't say I understand what's going on there.

This is not a well designed fight and I am glad that is behind me by now.

[Hotel Security]

>he can also see you pretty much any time you're in front of him & if he sees you, he'll immediately attack & block anything you do

Yeah, that's kind of the point. You need to get behind him when he's clearly moving away. Personally I stayed in the water pool in the center of the field for the entire fight. Could jump and shoot him if he's on the top platform and drop down to do the same below. I had Mina hidden in the pool on the far left side but never used her unless I needed to hit him twice in his last phase.

Also hittng him with a charged missile can take almost half his lifebar in a single hit. if you're struggling with the last phase where he needs to be shot twice, just whittle him down to around half and then hit him with a missile. Ends the fight right there and skips the last phase.