My discovery on the last boss [SPOILERS]

[Mopati]

The discovery :

When I got to the boss, something strange happened.
The third mind-boss thing... It doesn't attack me.
There's sunflowers appearing around it. It just stands there, chilling, doing nothing.
No matter how many time I face him, he never does anything.

Tought it was odd, so I looked at gameplay videos of this boss and yes, he's supposed to attack.
So I began looking more videos and thinking about this.
Yes, this boss is actually different depending on who plays the game!
And it's not only the third boss.

What different :

The first boss : it's always the same, not matter how much videos I look. Jumping, slashing, doing its big attack.

The second boss : I saw 2 possible variation :
- It's shooting 3 orbs at a time. Doesn't do anything else.
- It's shooting non-stop a lot of orbs and sometimes do a big attack.

The third boss : 3 variations :
- It's doing nothing. Sunflowers are appearing around it. Never saw a video with this.
- It attack half of the screen sometimes. Nothing else.
- It attacks 3/5 of the screen (slightly bigger range), and can sometime do an attack that goes on each side.

The theory :

Each boss represent a companion :

- The first one attack with a broken sword. There's a destroyed house. Lot of sunflowers. City one is there with a heart (hoping to live there).
It's obviously Elro.

- The second one attack with bullets. There's a facility under the see, and a lot of gravestone with couples inscribed on them.
No doubt, it's Mina.

- The third boss' attacks raise from the ground. It have a triangle for a head. (Think about the bodygards.) It's in space, with the moon. Looks like the moon is made of Ivory.
Less obvious, but it's Royal.

The connexion made, it seems like we can do something with them can weaken them for this fight.
The only thing that can come to my mind is : the dialogues.
And that make sense!
Elro is against our adventure. So most people would say thing he doesn't like, and get his strongest form.
I was supportive to Royal, and got his weakest form.

What does it mean :

We should try to understand which answers are the good ones.
There's a possibility that by befriending everyone, we'll get a new ending!
So... Let's do the community thing and try to look into it! :D

A little question :

Man, what with the fourth shadow? It's the only one we can shoot at, it's not doing anything, and not shooting it kills it anyway...
I'm not sure I understand this one...
What do you think about it?

[ZylpheRenuis]

Considering the choices you make throughout the game I believe they effect the visions.

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Originally posted by SLEVEN:

Considering the choices you make throughout the game I believe they effect the visions.

*affect

[astromyxin]

I made a thread about this a little bit ago:

http://steamcommunity.com/app/393520/discussions/0/1693785669869051672/?tscn=1517303127

I have yet to hear of anyone getting all 3 character analogues to be "friendly" to them in the boss fight, and I'm really hoping that there is something hidden if one makes all the right dialogue choices. I can't bother going back and trying different dialogue choices myself again - I already did it once and the game takes about 5 hours, even when I go as fast as possible. I'm hoping we can all figure this out together.

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Originally posted by astromyxin:

I made a thread about this a little bit ago:

http://steamcommunity.com/app/393520/discussions/0/1693785669869051672/?tscn=1517303127

I have yet to hear of anyone getting all 3 character analogues to be "friendly" to them in the boss fight, and I'm really hoping that there is something hidden if one makes all the right dialogue choices. I can't bother going back and trying different dialogue choices myself again - I already did it once and the game takes about 5 hours, even when I go as fast as possible. I'm hoping we can all figure this out together.

I'm not familiar with cheat engine but I imagine it'd be possible to change whatever flag is set for dialogue choices.

[Mopati]

Hu... So it was already known.
At least, I discovered it myself.

And nobody did it until now? At least, I can be useful about this in another way!

[Unsu]

I have a theory that the last one could be a representation of Black, wearing on Robin's mind after death. My only connections to this theory are how the background is black for the fight, and the body is already dead; it will kill itself no matter what you do. It's a very loose connection, but it's the only person that comes to mind when I think about those as exampled.

[Xan]

Fourth shadow is most likely her father since she had some lingering resentment which then gets cleared up in the final dream sequence after beating the nightmares.

I'm only confused why Mina's shadow attacked me since I was always supportive of her usually. I'll see what I can do on the second playthrough.

[midnightclover]

this may have already been said but im pretty sure the final one is black. with black being dead and having die no matter what being a corpse that automatically dies makes sense. the background is entirely black too. also when you go to save you game there are five faces. you, mina, royal elro and black. her never having a sunflower makes sense cus you never really get to talk to her like the others. ok well theres my little theory