[DISCUSSION] The reason MWR doesn't have a lot of players.

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Well, this is a No-Hate, Chill discussion. So please don't go hating on either of the games, don't hate on the fan-base.. None of that. I will just be stating and suggesting reasons to why this game isn't succeeding or gaining the popularity that it was "Meant" too and or wished for by many of the hard core fans of the franchise.

In the discussion, please comment your reasons to why you don't play MWR or in other words, why you haven't purchased IW to get MWR.

1) Which leads us, onto the first reason many people don't play and or have purcahsed this game. Activision; With they're recent desire for Money have decided to lock the game behind a Pay-Wall. Otherwise known as Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare.
And as activision ensues, they will most likely release MWR as a seperate game once they have realised the huge mistake they have made by locking the game behind IW. Many people are waiting until you can buy it seperately.

2) Poor optimisation; Now once again in traditional CoD Fashion we were given a Half-Arsed attempt at a PC Port of the Game. Now I'm not saying IW runs bad, oh no. MWR is the colprit here and the reason why is because of no or lack of, Optimisation. The games load times for many, and Performance in some cases.. Are astounding. Causing players to give up and quit the game as they can't even play online due to this error in optimisation. I still haven't been able to play a game with my friend because of the load times kicking him out.
(Reminder: Everyone has different rigs and different set-ups. This game can run well or bad for some people. For me, it's 50/50.)

3) Hard to Join Games / Not enough people on, in order to join games; Now with this, I mean that because the player base is so low and or small. It causes people to rage quit when they try again and again to join games to no avail. Either being disconnected when a games loading or just plain not being able to join games at all.

So those are my three suggestions and or reasons to why MWR isn't succeeding or reaching expectations. I hope you all can contribute to this by commenting your reasons to not playing the game and or being satisfyed by it. :)

// EDIT: Here are some more stuff people have contributed to the thread with.

引用自 saltwaterpunch：

1. Capped at 90 fps. Whereas the original ran whatever your primitive card could deliver. A big 'screw you' to anyone with a decent rig, since it introduces lag and glitches on faster monitors.

2. No rentable, dedicated servers. Cod needs admins (let's kick and ban spawnwatchers like back in the day) and mods to thrive.

3. Disregard for the pc community in general. Mouse accel? Guessing what fov you are at? Lack of a console? Encrypted config? Sensitivity settings that are 'color coded' (just how fast is fast, dude?) for imbeciles? Weird scaling when fov is altered? It screams 'console game' in big, bright neon letters.

4. The decision to divide an already small-ish player base in two, by releasing mutually exclusive versions for Steam and the Windows store.

5. Making it part of a bundle, discouraging old timers who don't care one bit for IW. And newcomers (non fanboys with a casual interest and/or on a budget) alike.

6. Weird spawns, definitely weirder than in the original. Sometimes in the line of fire.

7. A matter of taste, but I'm unsure about the graphics. Washed out, hard to spot players.

8. An ungodly amount of players seem to either lag (at start up especially) and/or are mystery shot by bad ping players because of the modern miracle that is lag compensation. Lag constipation might be a better term.

9. Speaking of ping: it's obfuscated, console style. We don't need bars. Got wine at home.

10. All the usual non optimized doodoo we have to put up with at every release. At least until (and if) some patch solves the worst offenders.

Oh, and (a possible 11.) is there anti-cheating software in place or not?

That about sums it up for me.

(^ These are features I forgot to add. He makes a clear point on key MISSING features.)

引用自 Burst Fire：

$80 and windows store

引用自 Enchanted Mango：

Windows store has saperate servers from the steam
spliting the already low population to even lower levels

its needs an update to fix the damn stutering

引用自 Enchanted Mango：

Windows store has saperate servers from the steam
spliting the already low population to even lower levels

its needs an update to fix the damn stutering

引用自 COD FOR LIFE：

Most people have already said the correct reasons:

-Costs $80
-Need to buy it in a bundle that includes IW, which people don't care for
-Runs like regurgitated poop
-No dedicated servers on PC
-Splitting the player base by where you bought the game from, though hardly anyone bought MWR on Windows Store
-Very poorly made port

I also think another reason is there are a lot more multiplayer games on PC to preoccupy players. CoD is a staple on consoles, and is undisputed king there since it's either this or Battlefield for them. PC on the other hand, there's H1Z1, Civ 6, CS:GO, Dota 2, et cetera.

(^ I like this one because he explains that other games have risen over the years.)

引用自 Enchanted Mango：

Windows store has saperate servers from the steam
spliting the already low population to even lower levels

its needs an update to fix the damn stutering

引用自 |TAW| Jacob_Jub：

The reason im not playing it is because now it feels way to slow for me I cant handle how boring it feeels. Its almost as boring to me as BF4 was.

(^ This is also a key thing to note. Originally CoD 4 has come out nine years aog and some people can't bare the clunky or "Boots on the ground" movement of the original CoD's.)

[Tsaza]

I don't think anyone plays windows store version online and microsoft is offering refunds for it.

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引用自 #Bunnyhop：

TTK is way to high, it was never this high in the original!

The original is almost 10 years old, all they had to do was up the graphics, fix bugs and maby balance some weapons/perks.

How did they mess this up so bad, what happened to if it aint broke dont fix it?

Saltwaterpunch nailed it with his list!

Actually the TTK is balanced. But there are ways to counter it; And ways to get yourself killed faster. As I'm sure you know, there is a Perk that increases your health and a perk that increases the damage of your gun. And they are both in the same category. So this is how it works; You either choose more damage or more health.

[RedBaron64-ITA]

There are too many cheaters.....

[| A§§a§§in | ®]

I just say, fix all the niggly problems, let people by this as a stand alone on Steam as when i bought it I had to get infinitie and I personal hate all that sliding ♥♥♥♥ and running around walls.i am ols school and love this game..nothing like real war type game play, no futuristic ♥♥♥♥..more maps and love to see anti cheat like punkbuster on this to protect it from those snotty nose little bastards that love to hack cause they dont have skills..my 2 cents worth..

[Tsaza]

Biggest reason people arent playing it that it's bundled with game they don't want for insane price of 80€.

[Khan]

引用自 Tsaza：

Biggest reason people arent playing it that it's bundled with game they don't want for insane price of 80€.

i got it for 46 € :P

[Megu]

It Seems like every call of duty thats not infinity ward tries to do somthing new while embracing things a older call of duty did and making them as smooth and polished as possible while an infinity ward game just disregards any of the other call of dutys features and fixes. like 1 step foward but 6 steps way back.

Black ops 3 and even advance warfare regarded the pc versions and made so many fixes that actually made the games good and liked on the pc community, but infinity ward seems to just down right ignore whats been done already including all the previous complaints, issues and bad press about the other games and just pushing the console versions as a true experience and leaving pc hanging till the last moment just like with ghosts. i really

引用自 Khan Ackhar：

引用自 Fat Mike：

This.

Word is that the Windows store version players can't connect to the steam players.

why is this a problem for you? I dont know anyone who actually uses the windows store so i dont think that this is an issue in any way.

there was actually a article today where microsoft are already issuing refunds cause of the low player base on pc, i even saw a image where there was only 2 people playing one of the modes.

引用自 saltwaterpunch：

引用自 PauleyDeagle：

Well guys remember that the xbox and ps4 are now essentially pc's the game is just a terrible optimization to begin with. console players are just used to such ♥♥♥♥ that they don't see it as being that bad.

True. But (the infamous but) they are still vastly inferior to a decent pc setup. Mouse and keyboard. Way more powerful graphics, both in looks and fps. Et cetera. Sony flat-out admits it. They launched that uber ps4 to stop players switching to pc. If developers at least invested SOME of their time in the pc version, they'd have a version of the game they could really showcase. Alas, they don't. And we're served reheated poo. At a gourmet price level.

Tbh im litrally getting a ps4 just to play this game properly now cause cod4 was my childhood and consoles seem to have the best experience but thats not gonna stop me playing my pc

[SmilingGuru]

引用自 Meads：

It Seems like every call of duty thats not infinity ward tries to do somthing new while embracing things a older call of duty did and making them as smooth and polished as possible while an infinity ward game just disregards any of the other call of dutys features and fixes. like 1 step foward but 6 steps way back.

Black ops 3 and even advance warfare regarded the pc versions and made so many fixes that actually made the games good and liked on the pc community, but infinity ward seems to just down right ignore whats been done already including all the previous complaints, issues and bad press about the other games and just pushing the console versions as a true experience and leaving pc hanging till the last moment just like with ghosts. i really

引用自 Khan Ackhar：

why is this a problem for you? I dont know anyone who actually uses the windows store so i dont think that this is an issue in any way.

there was actually a article today where microsoft are already issuing refunds cause of the low player base on pc, i even saw a image where there was only 2 people playing one of the modes.

引用自 saltwaterpunch：

True. But (the infamous but) they are still vastly inferior to a decent pc setup. Mouse and keyboard. Way more powerful graphics, both in looks and fps. Et cetera. Sony flat-out admits it. They launched that uber ps4 to stop players switching to pc. If developers at least invested SOME of their time in the pc version, they'd have a version of the game they could really showcase. Alas, they don't. And we're served reheated poo. At a gourmet price level.

Tbh im litrally getting a ps4 just to play this game properly now cause cod4 was my childhood and consoles seem to have the best experience but thats not gonna stop me playing my pc

And I understand completely. It is, however, a shame that the single most powerful platform (graphics, mouse and keyboard, bla bla bla) is running out of gaming steam, due to uncaring developers working on the exact same platform. That said, I went the same route in ps3 days (found it lacking and couldn't get used to controllers or the wacky alternatives), so I sympathize.

[<82ndAB>MG.Ieuan]

Ok got this game as a gift, I could play before the patch but not since.......they screwed us and we paid for it......every release that has involved infinity ward since mw2 has been poor, and this release is the worst yet....was really looking forward to this but gonna play the original cod4 as at least I can join a server and play custom maps and mods...this just got too old for me to worry about anymore....will see if it is fixed in a month or so not waisting anymore time on this abortion of a game.....FU Infinity Ward, go ask Treyarch how to test a game before release, because this game was not tested for pc......and it shows.

[Khan]

引用自 <82ndAB>MG.Ieuan：

Ok got this game as a gift, I could play before the patch but not since.......they screwed us and we paid for it......every release that has involved infinity ward since mw2 has been poor, and this release is the worst yet....was really looking forward to this but gonna play the original cod4 as at least I can join a server and play custom maps and mods...this just got too old for me to worry about anymore....will see if it is fixed in a month or so not waisting anymore time on this abortion of a game.....FU Infinity Ward, go ask Treyarch how to test a game before release, because this game was not tested for pc......and it shows.

weird. it runs way better than Black ops 3

[Megu]

引用自 saltwaterpunch：

引用自 Meads：

It Seems like every call of duty thats not infinity ward tries to do somthing new while embracing things a older call of duty did and making them as smooth and polished as possible while an infinity ward game just disregards any of the other call of dutys features and fixes. like 1 step foward but 6 steps way back.

Black ops 3 and even advance warfare regarded the pc versions and made so many fixes that actually made the games good and liked on the pc community, but infinity ward seems to just down right ignore whats been done already including all the previous complaints, issues and bad press about the other games and just pushing the console versions as a true experience and leaving pc hanging till the last moment just like with ghosts. i really


there was actually a article today where microsoft are already issuing refunds cause of the low player base on pc, i even saw a image where there was only 2 people playing one of the modes.





Tbh im litrally getting a ps4 just to play this game properly now cause cod4 was my childhood and consoles seem to have the best experience but thats not gonna stop me playing my pc

And I understand completely. It is, however, a shame that the single most powerful platform (graphics, mouse and keyboard, bla bla bla) is running out of gaming steam, due to uncaring developers working on the exact same platform. That said, I went the same route in ps3 days (found it lacking and couldn't get used to controllers or the wacky alternatives), so I sympathize.

This is totally true and its stupid, PC has been gaining so much attention in the last few years cause of pc only games, the mods, the tournaments, the sales and how easy it is to upgrade insted of waiting for sony or microsoft to get off their asses but then this stuff happens, the bad ports, no patches and the wait times to get somthing fixed is crazy. on console it would be fixed in days if not hours after its found out. pc, we gotta wait weeks to months cause of lazy devs looking at pc like "this sold nothing, its a waste of time patching it"

[Megu]

引用自 <82ndAB>MG.Ieuan：

Ok got this game as a gift, I could play before the patch but not since.......they screwed us and we paid for it......every release that has involved infinity ward since mw2 has been poor, and this release is the worst yet....was really looking forward to this but gonna play the original cod4 as at least I can join a server and play custom maps and mods...this just got too old for me to worry about anymore....will see if it is fixed in a month or so not waisting anymore time on this abortion of a game.....FU Infinity Ward, go ask Treyarch how to test a game before release, because this game was not tested for pc......and it shows.

I wonder why there was no pc beta