Dungeon Siege

Dungeon Siege

loucyx 2014년 8월 8일 오전 9시 29분
Windows 8.1 textures issue
I'm trying to play Dungeon Siege in Windows 8.1 (Intel HD Series 4000 Graphics). I've already try all the solutions on the internet:

- Use XP SP2 compatibility mode.
- Remove tnl graphics.
- Disable shadows.
- Set screen resolution to 640x480.
- Install DX9.
- Play in window instead of fullscreen.
- Run as administrator.

With all those solutions, I still get the same graphics errors (textures glitches).

Can anyone tell me how to run this game on mi PC?

Thanks!

Screencap: http://i.imgur.com/qpwAXSM.jpg
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loucyx 2014년 8월 21일 오전 4시 36분 
razali, your guide is one of the first things I tried. I still have the same issues -.-
bcolijn 2014년 8월 30일 오후 6시 08분 
I have the same problem and the same specs as lucasmciruzzi (texture tearing and black areas on the screen). The game is unplayable because of the graphics problems. I'm running Windows 8.1 Update on a Lenovo laptop with Intel HD 4000 Graphics (latest driver). I will post screenshots of my graphics settings when I figure out where to upload them. I've done the things in your guide (and other ideas from the internet) without success. By the way, my graphics card UI doesn't quite look like your screenshot. Has anyone managed to get this game running on Windows 8.1 without graphics glitches?
bcolijn 2014년 8월 30일 오후 6시 27분 
Here is a link to the screenshots of my Intel HD 4000 settings:

http://wp.me/p4hOVR-m
Razali Bin Rambli 2014년 9월 1일 오전 5시 36분 
could u give me what is your Lenovo type?

Mine is Lenovo ideapad Z510, running windows 8.1 64 bit with dual graphic card (intel and nvidia)
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loucyx 2014년 9월 1일 오전 6시 17분 
My screenshots:

Intel Config: http://i.imgur.com/8kdOSIs.jpg
Game Config: http://i.imgur.com/YA46CUF.jpg

It still has issues ;_;
bcolijn 2014년 10월 20일 오후 2시 31분 
Sorry...I've been away a while. My Lenovo is a G500 running Windows 8.1 with just the Intel HD 4000 graphics card.
ActionNews12 2014년 11월 14일 오전 9시 33분 
Still no solution huh? It's pretty cool that steam wont offer refunds...
##### 2014년 11월 14일 오후 12시 25분 
agreeed
loucyx 2014년 11월 17일 오전 5시 03분 
agreed ... I'm going "all gog" right now, because one of their pilars is "Money-back guarantee: It works, we guarantee it". Besides they are in the FALL SALE and it's epic.
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waltc 2014년 12월 1일 오전 7시 47분 
lucasmciruzzi님이 먼저 게시:
I'm trying to play Dungeon Siege in Windows 8.1 (Intel HD Series 4000 Graphics). I've already try all the solutions on the internet:

- Use XP SP2 compatibility mode.
- Remove tnl graphics.
- Disable shadows.
- Set screen resolution to 640x480.
- Install DX9.
- Play in window instead of fullscreen.
- Run as administrator.

With all those solutions, I still get the same graphics errors (textures glitches).

Can anyone tell me how to run this game on mi PC?

Thanks!

Screencap: http://i.imgur.com/qpwAXSM.jpg


Your screen shot has *nothing* to do with Win8.1. I'm running a heavily modded DS:LoA inside Win10TP, actually, @ 1920x1200...and the game runs perfectly, with the exception of two very minor menu elements that don't present a problem for playing the game. If I reduced my resolution to standard, no higher than 1024x768, even those problems would disappear.

The problem is your Intel gpu...is simply one of the worst 3d-accelerators ever made...;) Usually the problem is with their drivers...but there are many D3d hardware features that just plain aren't supported by the Intel gpu hardware.

Two cardinal hardware rules that people who enjoy 3d gaming (more than just a very casual, take-it-or-leave-it attitude) should strictly observe:

1) Don't expect much 3d gaming potential for any Intel GPU
2) Avoid trying to run games on laptops, period. Games are meant for Desktops--laptops aren't built for gaming...they're built for long battery life and 2d work.

Some game companies tell you upfront that they don't support laptops, period--it'd be nice if more game developers were upfront about that.

I do have a suggestion for you, though. This may or may not solve your problem. Download and install the latest version of DirectX 9.0c from Microsoft--it's June 2010, I believe. Install that right alongside DirectX11--the two coexist without difficulty in your system.

Download June 2010 DirectX[www.microsoft.com]

Hope this helps!
loucyx 2014년 12월 1일 오후 2시 48분 
waltc님이 먼저 게시:
1) Don't expect much 3d gaming potential for any Intel GPU
I'm not expectiong nothing, that's why I play old games like this, and not new stuff.
waltc님이 먼저 게시:
2) Avoid trying to run games on laptops, period. Games are meant for Desktops--laptops aren't built for gaming...they're built for long battery life and 2d work.
Games programmed like they should, runs everywhere (even different OS and in consoles). If a game runs on an old PC, by logic it should run on a new one. If you don't believe me you can go to gog.com, where they prove my point.

The problem isn't that I have an Intel graphics card, the problem is that this game is bad programmed and doesn't support it. Gaming companies every day ask for more hardware and the engines are getting worse, because the users go and buy new hardware instead of demand better quality on the engines with less resource consumption.

This is the second "old game" I bought on Steam that doesn't run on my PC, and I have the resources to do so, and is basicaly the same excuse: "You have enough video, memory and processor, but because of an incompatibility with something, you can't run it"....

It'll be great if at least Steam return the money if the game doesn't run (something that they can easily check with some kind of analytics).
waltc 2014년 12월 2일 오전 9시 59분 
lucasmciruzzi님이 먼저 게시:
waltc님이 먼저 게시:
1) Don't expect much 3d gaming potential for any Intel GPU
I'm not expectiong nothing, that's why I play old games like this, and not new stuff.
waltc님이 먼저 게시:
2) Avoid trying to run games on laptops, period. Games are meant for Desktops--laptops aren't built for gaming...they're built for long battery life and 2d work.
Games programmed like they should, runs everywhere (even different OS and in consoles). If a game runs on an old PC, by logic it should run on a new one. If you don't believe me you can go to gog.com, where they prove my point.

The problem isn't that I have an Intel graphics card, the problem is that this game is bad programmed and doesn't support it. Gaming companies every day ask for more hardware and the engines are getting worse, because the users go and buy new hardware instead of demand better quality on the engines with less resource consumption.

This is the second "old game" I bought on Steam that doesn't run on my PC, and I have the resources to do so, and is basicaly the same excuse: "You have enough video, memory and processor, but because of an incompatibility with something, you can't run it"....

It'll be great if at least Steam return the money if the game doesn't run (something that they can easily check with some kind of analytics).


The Intel HD 4000[en.wikipedia.org] shipped in 2012.

Dungeon Siege shipped in 2002[en.wikipedia.org][/quote]...ten years before Intel shipped the HD 4000.

So...the problem is clearly *not* with the game software--it's with your HD 4000 GPU drivers.

You say that this isn't the first old game you've had trouble with...trust me, as long you keep your Intel HD 4000 GPU, you will have trouble...not just with older games, but with newer ones, too.

You did not do your research before you bought your computer...but, you are not alone...;) BTW, did you install DirectX9.0c via my link? You did not say. Judging by your attitude, I don't think you did. Give it a shot--it's all you can do at the moment.

Also, my GPU is newer than your HD 4000, and it runs the game perfectly. The problem is with your Intel HD 4000 GPU...what you have is fine for Internet browsing and word processing...terrible for games. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but that's just the way it is, and screaming for refunds from Steam won't make it right.

Last, do you have any idea of how many *thousands* of computer system configurations are sold each year--tens of thousands of varying configurations, since 2002, to be sure. There's no way that Steam can test a $5 game with 10,000 different configurations to make sure of the computers sold that run the game and the ones that don't...!....;) That's *your* responsibility, not Steam's. It's your responsibility to researcher both the hardware and the software that you buy, before you buy it. You are destined to remain an unhappy customer if you decide you don't have time to do that.

Good luck to you, sincerely! I hope you'll buy yourself a computer capable of running 3d games if you wish to keep playing them, however.
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loucyx 2014년 12월 2일 오후 4시 36분 
waltc님이 먼저 게시:
Judging by your attitude, I don't think you did.

My attitude? What attitude? I did, and it didn't work. If 2 of 250 games I own have problems, the problems are with the games, not with my computer...

waltc님이 먼저 게시:
Also, my GPU is newer than your HD 4000, and it runs the game perfectly. The problem is with your Intel HD 4000 GPU...what you have is fine for Internet browsing and word processing...terrible for games.

So ... for you ... the rest of my games I run flawlessly are all word processing and internet browsing? (to name only the DRM Free: Aliens vs Predator Classic 2000, Another World, Beatbuddy, Beyond Good and Evil, BioShock, BLAZBLUE, Blocks That Matter, BloodRayne Saga, Braid, Broken Age, Capsized, CLARC, Costume Quest, Defcon, Deponia Saga, Don't Starve, Dust: An Elysian Tail, Back to the Future Saga, Blackwell Saga, Evoland, Fahrenheit (Indigo Prophecy), Fallout 1 and 2, Far Cry 1 and 2, Fez, FlatOut 1 and 2, FTL, Hotline Miami, Luftrausers, Machinarium, Magrunner, Mark of the Ninja, Megabyte Punch, Mount and Blade, MouseCraft, OlliOlli, Papers Please, Path of Exile, Primordia, Project Eden, Psychonauts, Q.U.B.E. Director's Cut, Race Driver GRID, Resonance, Rogue Legacy, SimCity 4, Six Degrees of Sabotage, Spelunky, StepMania, Super Time Force Ultra, Symphony, Terraria, Teslagrad, Tetrobot and Co., The Last Door, The Republia Times, The Witcher, The Wolf Among Us, To The Moon, Torchlight, Total Overdose, Tower of Guns, Unepic, Unmechanical, Valdis Story, ヴァンガードプリンセス)

I'm not asking to run something like Alan Wake, or Farcry 4 .... I'm only saying that if I have a machine that has more than neccesary to run the game, I should be able to run it. And if Steam can't guarantee that, then they at least should put a message in games like this to warn other users.

waltc님이 먼저 게시:
That's *your* responsibility, not Steam's.

Then again: They can add an analitycs system. They can use the same "in game" interface to check if the game closes as soon as it opens (like happesn with Timeshift), and stuff like that. If not, give a better designed "report bug" system with the reporter's PC data attached, and with that they can create a profile of machines that doesn't run certain games.

waltc님이 먼저 게시:
Good luck to you, sincerely! I hope you'll buy yourself a computer capable of running 3d games if you wish to keep playing them, however.

I already have one, is not a monster, but it can run a few hundreds of games :)
Toyota AE86 2014년 12월 2일 오후 4시 57분 
waltc님이 먼저 게시:
That's *your* responsibility, not Steam's. It's your responsibility to researcher both the hardware and the software that you buy, before you buy it.

And how the ♥♥♥♥ could I know that, Dungeon siege, will not be playable on my computer when this same computer can launch the whole freaking steam library ? How the ♥♥♥♥ it is my responsibility to haven't guess that ? I'm curious, tell me.

There is a store page, with some required specs that my computer meet, and even exceed by a thousand time, and the game isn't running. Fine, like you've said, it's impossible to test every game with every hardware, it's just impossible. But it's not my problem actually, you're wrong. I'm the customer, I've bought something that should've work, and it's not. It's an anomaly, Steam couldn't know that, I couldn't either, they should offer a full refund.

It's not a matter of who's right or wrong.
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