FINAL FANTASY VII

FINAL FANTASY VII

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Tristian 2013 年 9 月 4 日 下午 5:54
Swearing block?
I have not played the original so i dont know, but is the swearing suppose to be blocked? Is it just the Steam version that blocks it, and if so how can i (if possible) unblock it. it kind of kills the mood and makes the conversations seem childish when it blocks the swear words by inserting !@#$%^&* instead of the actual word.

any help would be appriciated thanks guys.
引用自 Xengre:
引用自 someevildude
Good to know. I no longer have any PS device are games of any kind. A lot of moving around followed by drama tends to do that. Still, I stand by my statement as before, it definitely wasn't censored before. It'd pretty hard to defend given the nature of the scene I've mentioned before. This game was not easily intended for a young audience.

No, the original Final Fantasy VII did not have uncensored swearing. Your memory, as others have stated, is mistaken. FF7 had an ESRB rating of T (teen) btw. There were never any updates to decensor or censor it. In addition, nothing gay or whatever happened with Cloud in the cross-dressing macho scene. It was made to be a comedic funny situation with the macho guys but it was far more innocent then you seem to think. As for any supposed "sex scenes" there is some allusion to the possibility with Tifa off screen on the High Wind but this is actually very poorly supported and there is reason to believe it is a widely incorrect assumption.

Btw, I have the actual physical disk in my closet right now and have probably played through the game more times than everyone else posting in this thread combined. I'm not misremebering. In addition, none of these people played an updated version or anything of the sort as has been made clear. Even the more valuable version of the original release is IDENTICAL to the others. The only difference is a mistake on the case.

The original Playstation could NOT connect to the internet like you claimed for updates and stuff. To be more precise, it could under the condition you bought a special adapater made at a later date that connected to your mobile phone and used its super trash data plan to connect to the internet for a really bad internet experience. This never came to the states btw. The PS2 was the first Sony console to have proper internet connection.
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Ahmad 2019 年 7 月 7 日 下午 3:22 
Cid said "sh*t" in the ending movie.
someevildude 2019 年 7 月 7 日 下午 10:35 
Yeah...Barret really likes that word in the beginning. I never had the chance to get through half the game at that age. I didn't live with my parents, but the few moments I had were very memorable. Also keep in mind this is technically a J-RPG which means F**** was used very little. I new nothing of Japan at that age or the genre, but did find phrases that stood out more than usual. It's also note worthy to say; not every game on console was guaranteed to be the exact same version. Such a factor was not so important as it is to this day. The games were always "playable", considering online multiplayer was practically non-existent.
someevildude 2019 年 7 月 7 日 下午 10:42 
引用自 Horuto
Cid said "sh*t" in the ending movie.
And thank you Horuto, this does support my argument a great deal. I see this as the original gaming having all the words on the spot, without the gibberish. Having to change an entire cutscene meant changing ports or just more work for devs in general. A sloppy misshap at best, but definitely meant to be there from the beginning.
Ahmad 2019 年 7 月 8 日 上午 12:10 
引用自 someevildude
And thank you...
You're welcome. I also have the screenshot.
https://steamcommunity.com/id/flasholt/screenshot/773973314778486546
FishyBeef 2019 年 7 月 8 日 上午 10:50 
I can confirm that the original US version (on PS1) censored words and there were some instances (like with cid saying S---) where they missed it. There were no "Sex scenes" in the game it was implied at one point and they threaten to cut a mans balls/peen off but they never refer to it as such only ever saying it/them. So in conclusion it was censored from day one on PC and at the very least the US version of the PS1. I remember watching my older sister play FF7 all the time and on occasion would play it myself and was always amused (found it funny) that the words were censored.
someevildude 2019 年 7 月 9 日 上午 1:03 
Omg, fish. How can you say they missed a few words to censor? The truth is right there! And the scene I'm thinking of is just before where Cloud has to dress up as a girl. You go to the right with a membership pass at one point and eventually find yourself in a room full of other guys...he doesn't resist in this scene & I really hated that point. And if you're gonna tell me it didn't need editing, then you Fishy are way below the margin of understanding adultery & shouldn't be playing this game in the first place!
† ѿǏȵϯʓṝ † 2019 年 7 月 9 日 上午 7:52 
引用自 someevildude
Good to know. I no longer have any PS device are games of any kind. A lot of moving around followed by drama tends to do that. Still, I stand by my statement as before, it definitely wasn't censored before. It'd pretty hard to defend given the nature of the scene I've mentioned before. This game was not easily intended for a young audience.

Your memory is wrong dude, I just played it a few days ago (I still have my original PSX copy of the game) and certain words are definitely censored. There are some "damns" and "hells" in there, but words like "♥♥♥♥" are censored.

To my memory, the word "♥♥♥♥" is never used in the game at all (as you claimed).

EDIT: I'm playing the original US version of the game
最后由 † ѿǏȵϯʓṝ † 编辑于; 2019 年 7 月 9 日 上午 7:52
FishyBeef 2019 年 7 月 9 日 上午 7:58 
Again there is no sex scene. No sex is shown at any point in the game. Yes they missed a few words. This game came from a time when "F---" was to "bad" of a word to be allowed into the game. Also i didn't insult you... Do i need to correct this and insult you seeing as how you refuse to listen to reason? I mean when you have multiple people saying its one way and then you have one poor misguided fool coming in "Umm excuse me! It has actually been uncensored since day one it was a later release that censored the game." No. It wasn't you're memory is faulty or you are suffering from the mandela effect but its not the way you say. Good day. EDIT: Again i am referring to the US version of the game. Also fun fact the japanese and potentially any other version could have been uncensored. There is a sketch for the prison in the gold saucer that shows the word "F---" painted over one of the signs but at release (Again atleast for the US version) it was censored to "Pyck"
最后由 FishyBeef 编辑于; 2019 年 7 月 9 日 上午 8:01
† ѿǏȵϯʓṝ † 2019 年 7 月 9 日 上午 8:26 
Since I see this has become a topic of debate, let me add some more information. You are both right and wrong. The very early version of the game did indeed have the word "sh*t" visible ONE TIME (it's in the one screenshot that was posted above), along with a few damns and hells, as I said. However, the game sometimes also censored these same words. Here is an article with a few screenshots that confirms this. There was never a single F bomb dropped in the game. So while some of what you say is right, "someviledude", it's pretty stupid to come in here and talk sh*t to everyone who's saying the original was censored, when in fact the vast majority of it was.

https://kotaku.com/a-brief-ing-history-of-swearing-in-video-games-1594942457
FishyBeef 2019 年 7 月 9 日 上午 9:24 
Since I see this has become a topic of debate, let me add some more information. You are both right and wrong. The very early version of the game did indeed have the word "sh*t" visible ONE TIME (it's in the one screenshot that was posted above), along with a few damns and hells, as I said. However, the game sometimes also censored these same words. Here is an article with a few screenshots that confirms this. There was never a single F bomb dropped in the game. So while some of what you say is right, "someviledude", it's pretty stupid to come in here and talk sh*t to everyone who's saying the original was censored, when in fact the vast majority of it was.

https://kotaku.com/a-brief-ing-history-of-swearing-in-video-games-1594942457

I did state that they missed some words. I never once said the entirety of the game was censored. I am aware that there are some instances like when you get on the train at the start barrett says "shi,t" however there are (censored) F bombs in the game like when barrett mentions that you could see the sky if it weren't for that "%@^&#!" pizza. Referring to the F--kin' pizza/plate.
† ѿǏȵϯʓṝ † 2019 年 7 月 9 日 上午 10:28 
引用自 FishyBeef
Since I see this has become a topic of debate, let me add some more information. You are both right and wrong. The very early version of the game did indeed have the word "sh*t" visible ONE TIME (it's in the one screenshot that was posted above), along with a few damns and hells, as I said. However, the game sometimes also censored these same words. Here is an article with a few screenshots that confirms this. There was never a single F bomb dropped in the game. So while some of what you say is right, "someviledude", it's pretty stupid to come in here and talk sh*t to everyone who's saying the original was censored, when in fact the vast majority of it was.

https://kotaku.com/a-brief-ing-history-of-swearing-in-video-games-1594942457

I did state that they missed some words. I never once said the entirety of the game was censored. I am aware that there are some instances like when you get on the train at the start barrett says "shi,t" however there are (censored) F bombs in the game like when barrett mentions that you could see the sky if it weren't for that "%@^&#!" pizza. Referring to the F--kin' pizza/plate.

Yeah, I was mainly talking to the other guy that came in here acting like everyone was wrong and he was the only one that was correct by saying the game wasn't censored, when it mainly was. I should have been more precise, also about the F bomb. I mean't that it had never been said anywhere uncensored, like s*it had (in a cutscene).
FishyBeef 2019 年 7 月 9 日 上午 10:33 
引用自 FishyBeef

I did state that they missed some words. I never once said the entirety of the game was censored. I am aware that there are some instances like when you get on the train at the start barrett says "shi,t" however there are (censored) F bombs in the game like when barrett mentions that you could see the sky if it weren't for that "%@^&#!" pizza. Referring to the F--kin' pizza/plate.

Yeah, I was mainly talking to the other guy that came in here acting like everyone was wrong and he was the only one that was correct by saying the game wasn't censored, when it mainly was. I should have been more precise, also about the F bomb. I mean't that it had never been said anywhere uncensored, like s*it had (in a cutscene).

My bad thank you for clarifying.
someevildude 2019 年 7 月 9 日 上午 10:55 
引用自 MagicHp
引用自 someevildude
Not accurate at all. It surprises me even more that everyone believes it was always censored. I find it rather irritating. I remember vividly the day I played this at age 10 for the first time: my parents being in that same room would laugh about the struggle I had at avoiding S*** & F*** all the while being submersed into the story. There was a sense of realizm to it that could only be experienced otherwise. And yes, it was on PS1!

Of course, such a long time ago, it would be impossible to retrieve such evidence since streaming & recording tech was not common at all, let alone the fact cameras couldn't even pick up what's on a tv due to lack of contrast ratio & the scale of shading effects. I am absolutely certain, it was never censored before.

You realize you can still put the very same disk you used to play then in your computer and play it in the exact same state it was in 97 on PSX? And it has always been blocked, memory can modify itself, PSX disks printed in 97 can't ;)
Let me know when you guys see that pattern beginning to trend...and good luck catching up. And to "clarify" I did state that it is very possible for some people to have different versions of the same game on the same system. I have noticed such a factor on other ps1 games.
FishyBeef 2019 年 7 月 9 日 上午 11:15 
引用自 someevildude
引用自 MagicHp

You realize you can still put the very same disk you used to play then in your computer and play it in the exact same state it was in 97 on PSX? And it has always been blocked, memory can modify itself, PSX disks printed in 97 can't ;)
Let me know when you guys see that pattern beginning to trend...and good luck catching up. And to "clarify" I did state that it is very possible for some people to have different versions of the same game on the same system. I have noticed such a factor on other ps1 games.

Only one who hasn't caught up is you. Your initial implication was that no two copies of the game are the same. Which is incorrect multiple copies are the same. It's called regional differences. It just so happens that the english version of this game specifically the one used to make the steam version was in fact censored. Your argument is that the original version was uncensored and that is actually subjective. Also to clarify the F bomb that i have been referring to about the pizza is actually them just being lazy and not wanting or being unable to translate the word "Rotten" also some of barretts "Sh*ts" are Turds in the original.
someevildude 2019 年 7 月 9 日 下午 9:42 
I never made the statement regarding steam. It was always for PS1 so don't start putting words in my mouth just to make a meaningless point. You're only turning this into a bigger dilemma than it needs to be. Anyhow, I can see this entire discussion baring no fruit for anyone. Nothing to gain here.

I originally jumped on here in hopes that someone could in fact mention a mod or some type of reference to removing the sensor. I believe a few of us made a remark that it can be a bit distracting to us. Instead it went from saying it "isn't better" to "it never was niether will be...again".

So now I will try once again to clarify something I thought would be simple. It's much like the drivers we have on our pc's. Each week a developer may attempt to improve on certain aspects that were previously overlooked. They didn't get feedback like they do today and there wasn't as much pressure to "time completion". Therefore, the games typically underwent sales without ever needing an update. When they did get an update it's not like they needed to make a big announcement. Internet was still very new & Playstation was far from ever getting connected. There were far fewer issues so it would go unnoticed. I'm only explaining this as an analogy of a very possible scenario. It would explain why now, after 20 yrs we are just now evaluating a single game in a very connected environment. Of course steam would use the same version on every PC! Of course the Xbox 360, PS3, etc have used their versions in their own respects. Otherwise how could they ever connect & be sure the game is not cheated? Or even synchronize?

One particular game stands out off the top of my head, but it doesn't go back as far. Socom 3 had a pretty sizable update for a PS2. This didn't mean that everyone had a different version and that was their attempt to update. It did imply however, they felt the need to add to the game by a different means than reselling the same copy. I also recall having a couple copies made by Rainbow Studios; MX. They didn't really synchronize, but whatever. We can't exactly go back to that, because they don't typically support servers that far back, but it's food for thought I guess.
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