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I would like to see you make a point against the game, to see if you can contribute in such a fundamental practice.
And to that edit I remind you that that games i mentioned were older then ff7 and NOT infulenced by them, indact most of them are jrpgs and evolved from dragon quest. Sure some games were infulenced by FF, but i dont see how ff7 was so diferent that it inspired design in future games (because overall ff7 is a clone of the older games but stripped down) if anything ff7 inspired people to make more rpgs, thats all. And honestly many find there to be a decline in the rpgs of now since say 2000. Rpg surplus if you ask me.
lol you are so foolish it is hurting now, I countered your points, you had nothing to validate them, go learn critical thinking maybe you will see that you have failed already, but whatever, I will indulge you this once to further prove that I am argue in a sensible manner while you are are some hyped up goonit that thinks he knows all.
A point against the game, thats easy, the English translation is not a true representation of the story or characters. There you go, easy. Now lets see you accept that not only are you wrong about how logic works, I used a game mechanic (cs:go teamwork) as an example vs a game mechanic (FF potion use) you used a real life law vs a game mechanic lol you are a joke.
Also you must accept that any and all dislike of the game is opinion unless it is proof that a game mechanic 'breaks' the game, not fact, you are not some enlightend person who knows more than the majority of people who have played this. Just a guy with an ego who wanted it stroking but got this instead.
No one asked you for starts lol now go back further, most rpg's use some form of basic D&D rules. I never stated that FFVII influenced those games... you are so so stupid, I don't tend to say that on the forums as its a cheap insult, but come on.... You try to make points against things that have not even been said,
Look at this thread and the responses on your review.... listen to the majority, we are not wrong on this lol
I wasnt trying to prove that you couldnt, i simply wanted to conduct the practice I hoped would come out of this thread.
I used games as a example before in this thread, not a mechanic but a a comparassion of how older games were further ahead in so many aspects compared to this game. And there is no definitive standard of how logic works.
There is no force absolute to enforce upon me that I must accept anything, other then ofcourse the love of my life.
All I see are ragers without points, and since when did magority equal truth? I didnt know that the magority of the human race agreeing on something made it true, I guess that makes the political faction with the most followers the right ones.
Even when you are talking rationaly i feel you raging abit, along with a hint of irrationality.
EDIT: You are definetly raging by the way, your commenting on my profile LOL
but i cant bllame you for defending the game your wifue comes from
but mabye me you and ur wifue can have a foursome with a bunny and get to know eachother ive got some great videos of the supream overload hittler killing some discustion jews and ♥♥♥♥♥♥s and some videos of cristions ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ cats that we can watch while we have the foursome
With that said, I still think VII is a great game. Not at the top for me, but nowhere near the bottom. There's no point giving reasons because they are all subjective(except the change from fantasy to steampunkish).
Most people like this one best because it was the first one on PS1 and that was when the big gaming boom started. So it is what it is.
I'd take it over VIII,XII and most others that came after it. This is also Square's highest selling game ever unless you count X along with it's remasters.
Wow once again the OP runs to another of his 'friends' who can only try internet insults lol you are a joke, a bad one at that.
As for the OP, the easy counter to your dribble of a last post is this, the majority decided upon the meaning of everything you muppet, how is a truth learned? By confirmation, now of course you can have confirmation bias, but it is still true that nothing can be confirmed as fact without others to confirm.
You are basicaly asking people to agree with you, I could point to a negative of game mechanics, so can most who have played this, even those who enjoy it, your title does not ask for this, it asks for constructive discussion, yet you can't take any counter points on board, you are the fanatic and its so obvious because so far I have not even said I like FFVII, yet you treat me like I am the voice of all 'fanboys'
You raged to your 'friend' he came to the thread, the post on your profile was to annoy him lol and it worked, he stopped typing back, you are so 'special' in your logic its just funny.
Do you spend any time with your wife? 120+ hours in two weeks for gaming time, I would hope you have a job, but I doubt anyone would pay well for that brain lol then factor in sleep.... As said before, maybe spend more time with the wife? Or is she only available to you online? (Tell your joke of a 'friend' that is how you use someones other half as an insult even when you know nothing of them lol)
You clearly do think that you know best lol nothing can make you accept anything eh? No standard for logic? Umm yes there is in society, laws you fool. Again learn to argue or don't I don't care, I can do this forever.
Maybe take a lok at Maechen's post, thats how you say an opinion, but again you don't think you have opinions do you? You think you have 'fact'
I can completely agree with you, heck I don't ven hate this game, I just don't like it much and find many aspects of the story silly and rediclous. I also feel that it's the begining of a decline and not the bottomless pit that happend latter.
Thanks for your tastefull and non hostile reply, not that the taste I refer to is in relation to the fact you some what agree with me, but I find it tastefull because you didnt go insane like other commenters.
The truth is learned by at it's core mathematics, not confirmation of others. I could go out right now and do all the math necissary to disprove all the theories of Stephen Hawking regarding black holes, but I guess my findings wouldnt matter because I'm not part of a magority? So I guess games like mother must not be that good because the magority of american gamers havnt played it, which must make Final Fantasy 7 good without question and anyone who feels otherwise is part of the crazy unlogical minority?
I'm about ready to call you bat crap insane.
Not in the slightest, i don't expect anyone too.
Oh trust me i've noticed you havnt, and I'm not treating you like your the source of anything. But this raises a great question, what are you doing here? Because all your doing is basically chewing me out, for unidentified reason. Seems to me you just like causing trouble, I find other word's more appropriate but don't see the need for swearing. I mean your like "OH THIS GUYS STUPID, I'MA RIDE HIS EVERY WORD" When a "logical" or sensible person would be like "OH THIS GUYS STUPID, I'M OUT OF HERE". I mean your obviously mad because your stalking my profile LOL.
Not in defense but geez maybe I'm a security guard who doesnt have much to do at his job, maybe I'm on phone for a hour a day for work. Who's to say my love wasnt playing games with me? So many possibilitys that just continue to open that door of you being a ignorant assuming fool.
And we've gotten so off topic that your egotistical view on humanity urges you to swing insults related to my life, I'm really starting to wonder who's using more reasoning here. I mean when your best insults are related to cheap blows of a guys lover and to societal constructs like jobs then you just know your a unreasonable egotistical freak.
You think Maechen agrees with you> lol look through the forum before you go claiming people agree with you, you have also edited your review to include FFVIII as a point lol a point I made, not you, go ahead read one of my first posts.
You state in the title to the thread you 'want to see where this goes' well fool, this is where it leads to.
The truth is not proven solely by math lol that is only in reference to science, you are also not a security guard or you would have to watch cameras, or are you going to claim that you neglect your job to argue on a steam forum?
I already said many times I do not agree with your logic, lets show again how your logic is 'special' person A is intellegent, person B is not, person C is simplae and easily led.. Person A hears person B telling person C some 'facts' person A knows that what is being said is flase. According to your super logic, person A should laugh to themselves and walk away thinking 'how stupid?' but imo its person A's responsability to ensure person C knows that person B is full of it.
Your friends threw insults first..... learn to read, I only threw the exact type they did hell you are so stupid you think you know about steam profiles and stalking via them lol trust me as a trader with over 2000 trades made with individuals via steam, true slaking would result in constant bot spam for adds, phishing links and info like your name is Zac, there is a 90% chance your wife is called Anna and you both play TF2 (could call you a fanboy of that)
I love how easy this was, also please do reply to the other 3 people who have since read the crap you spew and refused it, im sure they want to laugh at you as well :P
EDIT: Now you prove you can't read lol the guy has just sent me a friend request :) look at my profile, read the first 2 lines in the info panel hahahahhahaha, I don't know you irl so why would I add you? We clearly don't agree on gaming
When did i claim people agreed with me? And I edited the placement of a single paragram in my review, the original review from yesterday is the same as this one only with less typos and rearanged a bit. The only time i mentioned FF8 was when I said at the end i cant blame people for like ff7 because ff8 is worse furthers the decline in a more negative fashion then 7 did. That was never changed, ever. You either never read my full review or your a liar.
That's a 6 year old insult if I ever heard it, "YOUR FRIEND DID IT FIRST" so why insult me? Did i tell him to do it? How imature does it show you are to retaliate in such a manner? And seriously your trying to find her name? Do you realize you just opend yourself for a full fleged steam investigation for what you just publically said? I've seen pople like you shut down for less. I have no idea why you escalated to the point of stalking. I would say that I would like to know when I said I knew about "steam stalking" and phishing but this is honestly over. You have proven to everyone to the your a irrational raging scum bag.
And playing a game makes me a fanboy?